Thanks!!
Yea,I have seen some big ones when we've been out to visit my inlaws,can't wait to get after them!
I have taken some nice bucks here in WV but nothing like the ones I've seen out there!

I cannot believe some of the post by some people on here. Saying it is ok to break the law and trespass is just idiotic. I am sure they landowner has chased off tons of hunters and gets sick of it. The lack of respect that some of you show is why people look down on hunters. Follow the law. If its no trespassing and the land owner says no, it means no. Yes it is bad that there is a deer going to waste. I never like to see that and I do what I can to make sure it doesn't happen to me. But if someone else decides not to let someone on the land, that is their choice. The landowner probably thought you saw a deer on his land and were going to "recover your deer" but actually were going to try to shoot one.

Wow!! Just got back from being gone a few days to check this thread my lord what a stir it has caused.

We own land and have no problem with people looking for a wounded animal as long as they take the time to ask and no weapons and so forth. Yes I have been tresspassed on, stuff happens but does that mean every hunter is like the person that tresspassed on me??? NO!!! If i where a cop this would be like racial profiling, wouldn't it?????? You are basicly discriminating agains that hunter because another hunter pissed you off and lumping every hunter together which is not how this needs to handled.

I don't know which side is worse in this tread you got hunters hunting on public ground who either don't have access to private ground or what ever and they want to go in at night to retrieve the downed animal with out asking, BIG NO NO!!!!!

Then you got all the hard ass land owners that are wrong in saying you shouldn't hunt close to the boarders of public ground or even private that boarders them. because you a cutting there deer off, well tough @#$#!!!!! Well I am sorry but a deer that is not hit well for whatever reason can travel alot futher than a couple hundred yards!!! You know this just like everyone else who has hunted for any period of time. So really your agruement is a mute point on hunting no closer that "X" amount of yrds off the property line. In a perfect world we would all be master hunters like some claim they are and all of the deer shot would just fall over dead in there tracks!!!

Like I said I own some land and if anyone comes to my house asks permission to track an animal to me that says alot about the type of hunter he or she is and what it says most is that they are respectfull of the landowner, because alot of people would NOT ask they would just go do it.

People on both sides of need to get over themselves and look at the bigger picture here!!!!!! Help thy neighbor, does that ring a bell to anyone????

(AGAIN) another person misses the point about border hunting. It's not about "cutting off deer," which is perfectly fine and legal. It's about SHOOTING A DEER THAT HAS NO REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF STAYING ON PUBLIC LAND WHEN WOUNDED.

Jesus.

If you can drop it on public land, do whatever the hell you want. If you can't, you should reconsider where you're hunting.

The. End.

Please post the specific address and location of your property. I'm sure your Internet friends would love to take you up on your generous offer of hunting your land.

I know this isn't probably the best way to do things but if I shoot a nice 10-point and it runs over to private land and I know it's down. I'M GETTING MY DEER!

fianally a landowner with some respect for hunting. i am the original poster and by no means did i think i would get the response that i have with this post. i am shocked by all the responses on both sides. i never knew that land owners where such hard asses. i mean damn we all know you pay taxes on your property and it cost you allot of money believe me if it didnt we all would have are own spots to hunt but this is not a perfect world and we all do not have land or the money to buy land. to me this is no different than kids playing next door to my house and kicking a ball into my yard. so i should tell that kid he cannot get his ball it is mine because it crossed the property line. and that he should not play within so many feet from my property because their is a big chance his ball could go onto my property. i mean i pay taxes on it and the up keep right so that kid has no rights to his toys once it crosses onto my property. i mean give me a break. or heres another anology for you land owners. say im out walking my dog and he gets away from me and runs onto your property am i not allowed to go get my dog. it is so sad to see how selfish people are.

I am also not afraid to admit i would do the same...90% of the people on here that say they wouldnt get there deer... would do it if they had the same situation.

In the public land I hunt, I am 99% certain that the park does not allow hunting within 100 yards of the park boundaries; they are considered "safe zones."

One thing those of you recommending trespassing are forgetting, is that you never know what kind of person owns the property. Beside the fact that landowner's rights should be respected, having some crazy-assed redneck come after you with a 12-gauge will remind you why trespassing is a bad idea. No deer is worth your life.

And not for a doe?

By the way - it's not YOUR DEER until you legally recover it.
Break the law and not only is it not your deer, you are a poacher as well - not that would bother several here. They are "entitled" to THEIR DEER, regardless of little things like laws and landowners rights.

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I think the point I was tring to make was missed by you..... My main point was things happen whether a bad hit or a good one and the deer just refuses to go down and travel a far distance so in a reallity hunting at least X amount of yrds from the property line is not going to solve anything in this case.

And like a said if we where all MASTER HUNTERS like some claim to be ( not saying you just by looking at some of the posts) the deer would just fall over dead with every shot. But we all know that just doesn't happen all the time.

It is pretty bad when a landowner feels the need to group everyone in the same pot.

As I said before if a person will take the time to ask that shows me they respect my property.

I will say owning hunting ground can be a pain at times but that mean I have to be an ass all the time?? NO!!

At the end of the day it's YOUR land and you can do what you want. But what I have a problem with is the reasoning of some landowners that if one thing goes wrong everyone is a bad hunter with no ethics, which isn't the case.

And is also seems the main problem the landowners are complaining about is public hunting ground that boarders theres. Well some don't have the means to buy or lease hunting ground and they have no choice but to hunt public ground. Should they be looked down on just for that simple fact??? I just seems these landowners what the public ground to be private casue they boarder it.

This is just a topic that most are going to have to agree to disagree because there is no completely right or wrong answer with a lot of grey areas.

After reading all of these posts it finally proves to me what I've thought for a while. Most landowners are dics. I've always been for landowners rights above all else but this makes me rethink things. I'm for freedom and country but some of you guys are rediculous. Maybe the government should taxe the living hell out of you people if you decide that no one is ever going on your property. There should be no question that the hunter should be able to retrieve his or her deer. All the more reason to just go get your game and pretty much say screw the ignorant land owner that decides to be a jackoff. Once again, I'm for freedoms but if this is how its going to work, I'll be looking the other way when it comes to posted signs. All the land around me keeps getting posted, soon wont be any area to hunt around my house. I've asked land owners and its always the same answer. I guess there is something the dems are right about, rich people taking things for themselves, screw the rest of us. Its sad!

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Gosh this is really getting people fired up and I'd sure let everyone know my opinion as well. First off I hunt the family farm here in Nebraska and there is no public ground boardering any of it. However from my experience of the public ground around the area I really find myself leaning towards not letting anyone on our ground. As mentioned many times already there have been plenty of idiots that have just completely ruined for the honest hunter. I've just gotten to the point where I post all our ground with no trespassing signs heavily and if I catch anyone shooting off road, etc. THEIR DONE. I don't mean this like a hard a$$ I'm just so sick and tired of poachers and road hunters. However if an honest person came up and honestly shot it on public ground and not across the fence on mine then I would be happy to go look for the deer for them.
Its unfortunate that unhonest people have ruined it for honest people in my opinion. Can't trust anyone anymore seems like and thats not the way the sport should be however it is. Had a 199 inch non typical shot off the road on our property and it ran on to neighbors property and died. Neighbors didnt want to charge them with anything and wasnt much I could do. DISGUSTING!!! Nough said. makes me mad as heck just thinking about it so to all you road hunters.............well use your imagination at what I'd like to say. See this thread really got some peoples blood pumpin. Nice

Its no sport to me its a way of life.

NEBRbruiser: You hit what I was tring to say right on the head. If a hunter takes the time to ask and they have never been caught tresspassing then why punish them? They ARE doing the RIGHT thing. Also I agree with you on tresspassing they should be turned in to the sherriff or whatever so the word gets out you won't tolerate this type of thing.

I have permission to hunt some ground near my house. The landowner is married to my dads cousin and they don't live around here so the landowners son and grandson over see it. There are only 3 people that have permission to hunt this ground the grandson, his friend and me. Well everytime there is a problem out there I get blamed for it in a round about way and have to explain over an over what my side of the story is. In the past 4 weeks I haven't even been out there and had 6 phone calls asking me if I had taken so and so hunting out there or was I driving my truck back there and the list goes on and on and I keep telling him I haven't been back there in a month. So as soon as I get time to get back there and get my stand I will let him know what I think about the BS!

It's people like this I look at and say I will not do someone else like that.

This is how I feel about it you treat me right and follow the rules and will in turn do the same.

I have no tresspassing signs on my property too but I also have my phone number on it also just in case someone needs to get a hold of me. Yea I get I few calls wanting to hunt the ground which the answer is no, but I give a person every chance to get ahold of me before they tresspass so there should be no questions if they are caught.

I know landowners that seem to sit around 24/7 just waiting for something to happen. To me it just ain't worth it! I know I can't stop everyone but it is well known that if I catch someone they will get turned in to the law. I am not being a hard ass in doing this all it takes is a phone call and if a person is on the up and up they will take the time to either call or come to my house.

46 here...Excellent Post...it is really easy to see who has "earned" there way in life and those who have "entitled" themselves.

Thank you,
Was frustrating to see the ITS MY DEER replies,
Wildlife is OURS not mine or yours,
You van only legally take posesion of such wildlife when you abide by all game laws.
Violating laws to take posesion of game is poaching no matter how they try to justify it.

Grow up..........landowners aren't taking anything, they paid handsomely for what they have. Even hilly, brush ground cost's $1,800 an acre these days and that's if it's out in the boonies where people aren't interested in building homes. Plus taxes and improvements, it's quite an investment. I'm pretty sure you'd see it differently if it was your money that bought the land.

And with that, I'm through with this thread.

Amazing - another who feels owed.

Dont feel owed anything. I want the least amount of government in my life. I'm trying to make a point. The game lands around my area are dead. You used to be able to hunt alot of the private land but its all being bought up by a few guys. They post everything and dont allow anyone on for any reason. We will get to a point that most of the land will be owned by a few rich guys that dont allow anyone to hunt. With little land to hunt it becomes harmful to the sport. There are alot of hunters in my area and the game lands have pretty much been kicked. Maybe you guys would see it different if the shoe was on the other foot. I dont feel entitled to anything, I've worked hard for everything in my life. Grew up in a poor family and have now made a very good living for my family. My point is that all the land is becoming posted around here. I cant even take my little girl for a ride on my quad. I'm land locked by investors, guys that dont even live in my state. By the way, I do own a little land and its not posted.

It'll be my deer when it's in the back of my truck on the way to the processer.

Granted, stuff happens--I once tracked a gut-shot buck for nearly a mile. But if you're hunting less than a 100 yards from private property and the deer movement dictates a wounded deer will usually bolt toward the private property...you're in iffy territory. Sure, I've had deer drop right there...but I've also had good hits where a deer has run over 100+ yards.

Just saying.

I disagree,again I AM A LANDOWNER and if someone comes and ask to recover a deer, I have NO problem with them recovering it, hell I will even help them and have!
But people WHO just say scew it and go get it are the reason landowners have bad atitudes! Like I said before i've lost hunting rights to private property because of anothers actions,landowner got ticked off and STOPPED ALL hunting on his property! AND THAT SUCKS!!!
Hunters are thier own worst enemy,hunters who don't care about a landowners rights have brought these problems upon all of us!
The OP did the right thing thats all he can do,but going after the deer is in NO way going to get him future permission!
And too everyone who has posted on this thead, that said they would just go get the deer, THANKS for keeping private land, PRIVATE!!!!!!!

Best thread over!!!!

This is why you shouldn't be allowed on private lands. You shoot everything you see and don't manage the herd properly. If all of you in the area had exercised good QDM then there would still be deer to hunt for all.

That is what a state park is for...not my property. If you want more places to ride, buy more land. You will post it too unless you want it to end up like the public hunting areas. I suspect your biggest problem is really laziness in wanting everything right out your back door. I travel for two hours just to get to my farm. Put your big girl panties on and put a little bit of effort into it.

U DA KING !:s2:

Any landowner has had a situation like this happen: Landowner is out hunting, landowner runs across a trespasser, Landowner: what are you doing here, this is private property, Trespasser: I'm tracking a deer I hit.

When you hear it enough times and no sign of any hit deer anywhere, you become skeptical.

Jman, you know nothing about me which makes you and your comments ignorant. I dont shoot everything and I'm not lazy. You say you drive 2 hours to your location, I walk over 1 1/2 hours to get to my hunting stand. Wanting to ride my children around my property has nothing to do with being lazy. Its called working 50+ hours a week and not having enough time to drive away from my property. In the end I'm glad I came upon this post because it has taught me alot about you selfish people. Keep buying up land for yourselves and keep making it harder for working guys like myself to find good areas to hunt. Thanks.

Well, I will point out that you are a small-government person (by your own admission). I'm also guessing which way you vote. You'll be happy to note the party you vote for is about unfettered free enterprise, which means if you have the dough and can gobble up the land you should be able to do so. That's a fundamental principle in that camp.

Not commenting on the virtues or not of any beliefs...just pointing something out to you.

I'm not rich, and I mostly hunt public land. I own 20 acres of very marginal hunting land nearly 200 miles from my home location, so it's not like I hunt private land that much...but I have enough experience with it to understand the perspective of the other side.

Or worse. Check out the "someone is hunting over my land" thread. That's the kind of garbage many landowners put up with--and put up with more than a couple of times before the well-intentioned hunter knocks on the door and wants to get his deer on the private property.

Exactly!
Hunters are their own worst enemy!
You got guys who trash property!
Guys who trash talk each other, trying to have less pressure!
Guys who just trespass!
Guys using nails and screw in steps on trees!
Guys who run ATVs anywhere,park anywhere,shoot anything!
And unfortunatly after awhile the landowner just has enough and STOPS anyone from using his property!
If this kinda crap had never started and people showed respect,there would be more private land open for all of us!
WE LOST the respect of landowners, because of guys that do things like this,and we will NEVER get it back UNTIL we earn it!!

i sometimes hunt property that is adjacent to a huge place that is owned by a bunch of anti-hunters; they absolutely will not let a hunter track wounded deer on their property.

A high shoulder shot does the trick in a situation like this. It drops the deer in its tracks.

Well, if you have a four wheeler, that is pretty ignorant.

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah:lolabove:. You can always make time for the things in your life that are important. Guess you just want to hit the recliner and have a beer. Got to have priorities.



Why do you presume me not to be a working stiff just like you. I get up everyday and go to work. No entitlements here. I wasn't born with a golden spoon in my mouth but that wasn't my excuse for not getting ahead in life. I have earned everything in my life to include 266.5 acres of land. You are lazy or you could have done the same. Instead, you opted to be a whiner, not a winner.

If you were paying attention, my very first post was that I would have allowed the hunter to get his deer but I am all about my rights as a landowner.

I'm a landowner. I have absolutely zero problem with somebody recovering their deer. Have helped recover with them many times. But I'm also a fellow hunter to them. People have to understand not all landowners are hunters (not sure in this case). So heres a guy that owns a bunch of land. Doesn't hunt. Doesn't know anything about deer or hunters or hunting in general. Could really care less about your deer that is on his land. Simply doesn't want you on something he owns. He equates it to you walking in his kitchen for a glass of water. Do I agree with him not letting you get your deer? No. But I'm a hunter and think differently. Again... not sure if this applies to this situation, but it is out there. Some landowners just don't care about it.