Who is a REAL hunter?
 

I'm talking about the so called "pro's" on TV. I think most of them shoot their deer on preserves. (Voice in the background)... "okay Joe, release the deer"....

Anyway, there are some that could get a buck all on their own without a guides help. Two I know of are Roger Raglin (who went on public hunting ground in Wisconsin all by himself and got a buck that made the book) and Larry Weishuhn. They don't need the guide to tell them if the buck is good enough to shoot. I won't bash some of these "famous" guys but some are NOT that good.

And if they diddled around on a Wisconsin buck like they do on their shows they'd never get one. They sit and wait for the deer to turn just so, then they might load the gun. Or they don't take the safety off until the buck has taken another bite of clover etc etc. The window of opportunity on a Wisconsin (or other deep woods state like Michigan, Minnesota, etc) buck is very short and if you dink around like those guys do you won't get anything. That's what leads me to believe some of these "pros" have never hunted some tough conditions.

Who do you guys respect of the TV pros and why?

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Ive never seen a hunting show that I thought was "real" they all look a lot more like shooting than hunting to me.

I'm with ya 100%,
Funny thing cause my hunting buddy and were discussing this very subject. I enjoy watching a hunting program or two but sometimes they're too commercialized with an almost unrealistec and unbelieveable number of big bucks to does ratio , stuff you'd never see anything like this in the wild. Its just not natural.

The only so called pros I use to enjoy reading articles about was the Benoit family from Vermont.

people who hunt on thier own land or public land.....not with outfitters

I hate to break it to you but Larry Weishuhn hunts on game farms. I was watching his show the other day on the versus channel and he was passing bucks that scored in the 160-170 because the guide said they were to small and then in the same day he goes and shoots a deer that scores over 200 inches. I don't give him any respect when he hunts in a game farm.

I know LW hunts some on game farms but he also hunts open land. I think he could score a buck on his own IMHO.

When some of these guys ask the guide if it's good enough to shoot I doubt their credibility. I've never heard LW do that but I'm also deafer then a doornail, LOL.

And how come all these pros wear cowboy hats? :confused:

Which brings up another ace I forgot that could do it on his own... Jim Shockey.

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Jim Shockey, Fred Eichler and the Eastman family.

Roger raglin hunts on game farms also. One of my dads very good friends use to work at dream mountain in west virginia. Its a high fence operation. He said roger raglin would come in every year to do a couple hunts. They accomadate you with venision to eat for lunch, and all other nice trimmings to go with it. He said that roger raglin was a real jerk. He refused to eat the food they prepared for all of the hunters. He orders a pizza instead. I've never felt the same way towards him after hearing this. He said he had no class whatsoever.

Uncle Ted.

Interesting on Raglin. I moved him down my list if he's a jerk. But I'm also willing to bet alot of those guys are and for really no good reason as they just get the animals because they pay the bucks for someone to lead them to them. I can't believe Larry Weishuhn would be a jerk though.

Did you ever see a "George Klucky" hunting video. Hilarious. In one he emptied his gun at a moose missing them all and reloaded and missed some more. I swear he wore high heeled boots to try to look taller.

Back in their day though it was some good photography...

Who is a REAL hunter?
 

Obviously to be one you need to post on internet forums to make all aware of your skill and qualifications to be a "real" hunter.:wink:

Roger is a good as any other hunter mentioned here thus far. He's one of the few who really know BIG bucks and through hard work, like ALL DAY SITS and persistence, he gets the job done. He often mentions eating tag sandwiches too! He has a "drawer" full of them accumulated over the years. That often happens when you are after trophy class bucks.

As for him passing up on a "venision to eat for lunch, and all other nice trimmings...", I can believe him passing it up. It was also mentioned he "would come in every year", so maybe he knows the food there and doesn't particularly care for it? I know one thing, venison isn't the end all be all to the finest cuisine in the world. It's awesome meat and one can do good things with it, but I DO get bored of it and happily give some away every year. To me it's a delicacy, so I have it sparingly through out the year until the next season. If you ask me what I want, "venison or pizza?", I have way more venison than pizza, so I just might choose the pizza instead. I suppose that makes me a jerk, right? :rolleye0011:

Imagine, hunting professionally, filming hunts from September to January, eating "venison" could get old after a while if everywhere I went I was served the same old same old. I think I would enjoy an occasional pizza too. LOL!

Jim Shockey is one of my more favorite hunters, but take away those pop-up blinds that's been there for weeks on end, those corn & feed piles in front of them and the open expanse of the clearings, he'd have a challenge on his hands. And yeah, I have about every one of his buck hunting videos to draw my conclusions from.

I do realize many of these filmed hunts are assisted by outfitters. Not so much in being there over their shoulder, but putting the film teams in front of shootable bucks. It's pay to play hunting.

You guys remember Myles Keller? Well, I was in an archery store in Rochester, MN one time and he was there. I think at the time he was sponsored by XI bows. He was asking Marty for a price quote on a bow. Marty said "This one?", "No." "This one?" "No.", then Myles pointed at a Mathews and Marty was sort of surprised. I could see his facial expressions. Well, the big thing was that I over heard Myles talking about a hunt he's trying to set up. He said he's "negotiating" the price on a hunt, as there was a big buck or two on this guy's farm and he wanted over a $1,000 to hunt there! Wouldn't have thought that unless I was there in person seeing and hearing it myself!

I can mention a long list of hunters I think are "real". One that comes to mind is Alan Altizer. He's for "real". So is Bob Foulkrod, Dan Fitzgerald, The Nuge, Jay Gregory, Fred Bear....

iSnipe

Holy self promotion Batman.:)

The guys from Blood Brothers Outdoors are for the most part real hunters. They have been featured on Lone Wolf Addictions, they don't go to guided hunts to shoot their videos. They have good scouting and hunting videos.

http://bloodbro.com/

Certainly none of the above. I really don't think any of them could hunt down a bag a chips at the grocery store. These are guys that have a camera man, with camera turned on, walking backwards lead them to the fallin trophy. Actually the camera man is probably the best of that whole group.

I have little/no respect for any of them. IMO, it's all a marketing ploy, infomercials to try to separate hunters from their hard earned money.

Very little has anything to do with the way it is in the real world, at least here in New England. With the exception of the Benoit family, I have yet to see any hunting show take place in northern New England. I understand why, $$ being the main reason.

Bottom line; Can any of these so-called professional hunters come up to Maine, New Hampshire or Vermont, where some of the biggest bucks in North America live, and drag out a big old bruiser, I have my doubts.

ON ONE OF THE SHOWS, YOU COULD MAKE OUT THE GAME FENCE THROUGH THE TREE'S

certainly that is a way to get a good trophy....not for me, i could get a lease fer at least2 years with that cash, whick i have 40 acres and dont do leases, but i am thinking about a bigger stretch.

i have seen very little shows , like ted, and a few others where its the real deal.i like those

I think a lot of you people are way off base. Sure the professionals have all of the best thrown at them. But, that being said, most of them get the job done year after year, location after location. They put in the time and effort to find the best spot get in without alarming the deer and make the shot and on camera to boot in just a few days. There are at least two people and a whole lot of the extra equipment that goes along with it - scent control.

I don't like watching all of them and their associated programs. I pick and choose which ones get air time on my TV. But, think about it for while before going on your rants. The professionals are promoting hunting and a lot of people on this thread are bashing them for making a living at it.

I like all that are mentioned.
Greg Miller in, In Pursuit With Greg Miller.
He has good pointers to help hunters.
And I love the ( From The Pages Of ) part of his show.

They all go to places, that we just can't go.
But hey, they have to make it look good some how.

JMHO

i agree with this 1,000,000%...I would rather see someone go out and kill a little 6 point fair chase as to see someone kill a boone on a high fence ranch!

I need to take a camera with me when I hunt and show these"pro's" what hunting is I might be 15 but they hunt like they are 3!!!

It seems that being 50lbs or more overweight and having a strong southern drawl are requirements for having a hunting show. Exception: Tiffany Lakosky!!!

To me the Real hunters, are the ones that come here at Huntingnet.com
You know, the ones I am talking about.
The ones that go, on public land, or private land.
And are honest about what happens, no matter what.
Some times they score, some times they get skunked.
You will never see the real hunters on TV.

The hunters from Huntingnet.com

JMHO

Sad day when we stoop to idealizing some hack hunter on a TV show.
Reminds me of cartoons and super heros.

Uncle Ted a "real" hunter I have to laugh at that one

There has been something odd about a overweight dude in camo hiding in a black plastic box on stilts waiting over a clover field.

Seems to me the guy could have worn black plastic camo. Now theres a real hunting hero.

He might be a bit on the commercial side of things but dude gets excited after EVERY kill. Backstrap Bloodbrothers Baby!!:biggrin:

Eastmans!!!

jim shockey ha ha no hunter at all i can follow a man in a safari and shoot a animal the natives to the area show him where to go. and usally point out the animal to him
uncle ted yes he dosent discrimanate he just wants back strap. My faverite wadell

I'm sure most of them are pretty knowledgable hunters. They just got lucky breaks that most of us haven't. I believe many of us here are as or more knowledgable about deer hunting though. Some of them are jokes, while others are pretty decent. I don't idolize any of them. I watch some shows only because I love deer hunting, not to learn anything, because many of them have a lot to learn. I don't get some of you Roger Raglin fans. He is one of the most obnoxious hunters on tv. I can't stand to watch him for more than 2 minutes. As for Larry Weishum, I'm sure he is very knowledgable, but he sucks with his pistol. I could make a much longer list of the ones I can't stand than the ones I would watch.

most are bull crap but a few do the job , they do so cause to kill a big buck you got to be where they are they hunt ranches and such to get it done but i dont think they are any better than any of us its all about the money like every thing else fitzgerald no respect he was busted hunting on a park all others ok by me its just tv

I'm surprised nobody mentioned Roger Rothhaar. He doesn't have a show, but he's a "no joke" big buck killer!!

I agree, true hunting isn't getting a "Freak Nasty" buck every time. Real hunting is taking does, small bucks, that stuff. Another hunter I think is a real hunter is Tred Barta, it takes skill to hunt everything with a longbow.

[quote=backwoodsboy13;3537607 Another hunter I think is a real hunter is Tred Barta, it takes skill to hunt everything with a longbow.[/quote]

He may be a skilled hunter, but he is such a ****. I couldn't stand hunting or fishing with the guy.

Yea i agree kuk, you and I might be younger be we could show em wat real hunting is like.. but I dont think the "hunters" on these shows could handle going all day in a stand without seeing anything.

What is a Freak Nasty buck?

Really, you should ease up on ole Tred, you know he's paralized now from the chest down. I wish the best for him.

A "Freak Nasty" is what Michael Waddell calls all his big bucks. I can't stand Waddell, he fakes his accent and fakes all those words, you can tell.

Oh I see, this guy has his own lingo.

Couldn't mean me. I love hunting but smell like cigarettes, fidget constantly and probably scare twice as many deer away as I see. But I am a good shot.

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