New Hunter - First Rifle?
12-22-2009 | 08:19 AM
#11
Nontypical Buck
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From: central and east texas
her eric
how old are you,? how much do you weight.?
a 270 sounds good for a 1st rifle. if you are 12 i would say a .223...243..
if you are older maybe a 270 is for you..
.shoot the loaner rifle, that 270 you said you could get your hands on... if you find yourself anticipating the recoil of the gun instead of the target, then maybe a 243 or 223 will be better for you.
also check the state laws on minimum caliber? might be a 243 up there.
definitely dont go buy a gun til ya shoot the different calibers.
how old are you,? how much do you weight.?
a 270 sounds good for a 1st rifle. if you are 12 i would say a .223...243..
if you are older maybe a 270 is for you..
.shoot the loaner rifle, that 270 you said you could get your hands on... if you find yourself anticipating the recoil of the gun instead of the target, then maybe a 243 or 223 will be better for you.
also check the state laws on minimum caliber? might be a 243 up there.
definitely dont go buy a gun til ya shoot the different calibers.
12-22-2009 | 09:11 AM
#13
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Spike
Joined: Dec 2009
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her eric
how old are you,? how much do you weight.?
a 270 sounds good for a 1st rifle. if you are 12 i would say a .223...243..
if you are older maybe a 270 is for you..
.shoot the loaner rifle, that 270 you said you could get your hands on... if you find yourself anticipating the recoil of the gun instead of the target, then maybe a 243 or 223 will be better for you.
also check the state laws on minimum caliber? might be a 243 up there.
definitely dont go buy a gun til ya shoot the different calibers.
how old are you,? how much do you weight.?
a 270 sounds good for a 1st rifle. if you are 12 i would say a .223...243..
if you are older maybe a 270 is for you..
.shoot the loaner rifle, that 270 you said you could get your hands on... if you find yourself anticipating the recoil of the gun instead of the target, then maybe a 243 or 223 will be better for you.
also check the state laws on minimum caliber? might be a 243 up there.
definitely dont go buy a gun til ya shoot the different calibers.
I don't plan to buy a rifle for a long long time, I just thought I'd post here to get some different opinions on what would make a good, first deer rifle that wouldn't cost too much
12-22-2009 | 12:18 PM
#14
Giant Nontypical
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Here's my recommendation for your first rifle.
I like the model 700 because everyone "works" on them and there are more aftermarket parts for them then any other production rifle.
I recommend you pay a good gunsmith and get the barrel hand lapped, a trigger job done and replace the recoil pad (i use Pachmayr's).
These three things are the least expensive way to accurize your new rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/fi...00-sps-dm.aspx
I love detachable magazines (I always buy a extra magazine and keep the extra one loaded and ready to go).
http://www.remington.com/products/fi...stainless.aspx
I always buy stainless, "if" it has a detachable magazine (in this case, it doesn't).
First best caliber would be .243 Winchester for a beginner.
http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm.243winchester.html
Second choice (for a beginner) would be that .270 Winchester.
http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm.270winchester.html
Either rifle or either caliber will last you a lifetime.
Buy +/- four different ("brands") boxes of ammo, all with the same "grain" bullet and some shoot-N-C targets and your gun will tell you which ammo it likes best.
Solid rest and practice....................beware of the one gun hunter (usually very good with it !!!)
I like the model 700 because everyone "works" on them and there are more aftermarket parts for them then any other production rifle.
I recommend you pay a good gunsmith and get the barrel hand lapped, a trigger job done and replace the recoil pad (i use Pachmayr's).
These three things are the least expensive way to accurize your new rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/fi...00-sps-dm.aspx
I love detachable magazines (I always buy a extra magazine and keep the extra one loaded and ready to go).
http://www.remington.com/products/fi...stainless.aspx
I always buy stainless, "if" it has a detachable magazine (in this case, it doesn't).
First best caliber would be .243 Winchester for a beginner.
http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm.243winchester.html
Second choice (for a beginner) would be that .270 Winchester.
http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm.270winchester.html
Either rifle or either caliber will last you a lifetime.
Buy +/- four different ("brands") boxes of ammo, all with the same "grain" bullet and some shoot-N-C targets and your gun will tell you which ammo it likes best.
Solid rest and practice....................beware of the one gun hunter (usually very good with it !!!)
12-22-2009 | 03:19 PM
#15
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Spike
Joined: Dec 2009
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Here's my recommendation for your first rifle.
I like the model 700 because everyone "works" on them and there are more aftermarket parts for them then any other production rifle.
I recommend you pay a good gunsmith and get the barrel hand lapped, a trigger job done and replace the recoil pad (i use Pachmayr's).
These three things are the least expensive way to accurize your new rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/fi...00-sps-dm.aspx
I love detachable magazines (I always buy a extra magazine and keep the extra one loaded and ready to go).
http://www.remington.com/products/fi...stainless.aspx
I always buy stainless, "if" it has a detachable magazine (in this case, it doesn't).
First best caliber would be .243 Winchester for a beginner.
http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm.243winchester.html
Second choice (for a beginner) would be that .270 Winchester.
http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm.270winchester.html
Either rifle or either caliber will last you a lifetime.
Buy +/- four different ("brands") boxes of ammo, all with the same "grain" bullet and some shoot-N-C targets and your gun will tell you which ammo it likes best.
Solid rest and practice....................beware of the one gun hunter (usually very good with it !!!)
I like the model 700 because everyone "works" on them and there are more aftermarket parts for them then any other production rifle.
I recommend you pay a good gunsmith and get the barrel hand lapped, a trigger job done and replace the recoil pad (i use Pachmayr's).
These three things are the least expensive way to accurize your new rifle.
http://www.remington.com/products/fi...00-sps-dm.aspx
I love detachable magazines (I always buy a extra magazine and keep the extra one loaded and ready to go).
http://www.remington.com/products/fi...stainless.aspx
I always buy stainless, "if" it has a detachable magazine (in this case, it doesn't).
First best caliber would be .243 Winchester for a beginner.
http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm.243winchester.html
Second choice (for a beginner) would be that .270 Winchester.
http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm.270winchester.html
Either rifle or either caliber will last you a lifetime.
Buy +/- four different ("brands") boxes of ammo, all with the same "grain" bullet and some shoot-N-C targets and your gun will tell you which ammo it likes best.
Solid rest and practice....................beware of the one gun hunter (usually very good with it !!!)
Anybody want to compare the Remington 700 .270 and Winchester Model 70 .270?
12-22-2009 | 03:53 PM
#16
Giant Nontypical
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Port Neches, Texas
Savage is probably the best bang for the buck right now, but you won't go wrong with Browning, Ruger and Marlin, among others.
Get good glass to go on top! A cheaper rifle with good glass is better than an expensive gun with poor optics!
I can't argue the choice of a .270, but there are so many good choices between .24 and .30 caliber, so its mostly a matter of choice.
Don't forget the short action cals like .243, 7MM-08 and .308 Winchester! The 7MM-08 or .308 would be my choice.
Good luck and welcome to the sport of hunting!
12-22-2009 | 04:11 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Monticello, FL USA
I know several higly productive deer hunters in AL who swear by the .243 for deer.
Something to think about though is flexibility. A .270 may give you some more options for size and range of game. I've never shot an elk, but I know many have been felled by a .270
OR...you could go the maximum fun option...a rifle in each caliber you wanted to shoot.
You can go as big as you like, BUT...A friend came down with an acute case of "gotta get a magnum-osis" for his first rifle. After ruining a good share of venison with his 300 ultra mag, he's looking at a .257 Roberts now.
Some guys like the wildcat rounds. Cool, but finding ammo is tough sometimes. I like that I can go just about anywhere and find .270 or 30-06 ammo.
Something to think about though is flexibility. A .270 may give you some more options for size and range of game. I've never shot an elk, but I know many have been felled by a .270
OR...you could go the maximum fun option...a rifle in each caliber you wanted to shoot.
You can go as big as you like, BUT...A friend came down with an acute case of "gotta get a magnum-osis" for his first rifle. After ruining a good share of venison with his 300 ultra mag, he's looking at a .257 Roberts now.
Some guys like the wildcat rounds. Cool, but finding ammo is tough sometimes. I like that I can go just about anywhere and find .270 or 30-06 ammo.
12-22-2009 | 04:58 PM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Southeast Missouri
I have been Hunting with a Remington Model 472 30-06 for many years and went out and bought me a beautiful Browning Bolt-action .243 Rifle that has put down several nice Does and Bucks.I'm thinking about going up a little on calibers and getting me a Savage 7mm-08 with the accu-trigger in a wood stock and a Bolt action.I can use the regular shells for the 7mm-08 or even go with the managed recoil shells from Remington.A 25-06 is a very good Rifle,a .270 or 308 would be a good choice also.If your hunting in a combination of open fields and thick woods/timber you'll need a Rifle that shooots a decent size weight of bullet.
12-22-2009 | 05:12 PM
#19
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Spike
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I know several higly productive deer hunters in AL who swear by the .243 for deer.
Something to think about though is flexibility. A .270 may give you some more options for size and range of game. I've never shot an elk, but I know many have been felled by a .270
OR...you could go the maximum fun option...a rifle in each caliber you wanted to shoot.
You can go as big as you like, BUT...A friend came down with an acute case of "gotta get a magnum-osis" for his first rifle. After ruining a good share of venison with his 300 ultra mag, he's looking at a .257 Roberts now.
Some guys like the wildcat rounds. Cool, but finding ammo is tough sometimes. I like that I can go just about anywhere and find .270 or 30-06 ammo.
Something to think about though is flexibility. A .270 may give you some more options for size and range of game. I've never shot an elk, but I know many have been felled by a .270
OR...you could go the maximum fun option...a rifle in each caliber you wanted to shoot.
You can go as big as you like, BUT...A friend came down with an acute case of "gotta get a magnum-osis" for his first rifle. After ruining a good share of venison with his 300 ultra mag, he's looking at a .257 Roberts now.
Some guys like the wildcat rounds. Cool, but finding ammo is tough sometimes. I like that I can go just about anywhere and find .270 or 30-06 ammo.
I've heard nothing but good things about Savage, so I'll strongly consider that
Thanks
12-22-2009 | 05:12 PM
#20
Spike
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: Ottawa, KY
for me this past fall i purchased a Stevens 200xp in the .270 caliber. It is availible in a package with the scope or without. The stevens line is the economy line of Savage and to me its a good deal. I think i ended up paying 319 for it. The rifle is lightweight and is extremely accurate. Its by far the best rifle ive had experience with.