DS Shot His FIRST BUCK!
12-02-2009, 06:00 AM
#6
Fork Horn
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 235
I was so proud of him! He even got his first buck before my brother and he's been hunting for years!!
12-02-2009, 12:16 PM
#7
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,445
Please take my post in the most constructive way possible.
I guess this turned out ok, but there's no way I would have let a beginning hunter take that shot. It's not responsible. He never shot the gun before, I'll be he never shot at a target at that distance with any gun, let alone shooting at something living, the list goes on.
You blame the gut shot on wind?!!? What about the fact that the shooter really had no earthly idea what he was doing? Heck, the wind may be the only reason he hit the deer at all. You'll never know. And then there's your boy being taught to take long shots in windy conditions in the first place.
Think about this, a 7mm zeroed for 300 yds will drop about 50-60 inches at 600 yards, that's 4 to 5 feet. A 10 mph breeze will push a 7mm bullet 2 feet at 600 yds. IMO, If you have to hold off the animal you are shooting too far. I can hear it now, "Aim about 4 feet high and a 2 feet to the left and you MIGHT hit him."
Look at it this way, what if his gut shot ended badly - a lost but very dead deer? How would you both feel then? Would he want to continue hunting? I would hope he'd feel badly but eventually shake it off and continue hunting, but what if he just quit? Bad hits can happen under the best of conditions, why risk it?
IMO, a young hunter should be brought along by folks that set the correct examples. Taking low percentage shots on game animals is not the right way, it shows a lack of respect for the animal. I'm pretty sure you can expect your son to want a 7mm of his own so he can continue to pop off shots and 600 yds and maybe even beyond. Heck, his first try turned out so well.
I know you're a beginner as well, but I think you probably do realize that perhaps it would be better to teach the kid to hunt, so he can get close to game, so his shots are basically slam-dunks. Leave the longer range shooting to the shooting range.
I guess this turned out ok, but there's no way I would have let a beginning hunter take that shot. It's not responsible. He never shot the gun before, I'll be he never shot at a target at that distance with any gun, let alone shooting at something living, the list goes on.
You blame the gut shot on wind?!!? What about the fact that the shooter really had no earthly idea what he was doing? Heck, the wind may be the only reason he hit the deer at all. You'll never know. And then there's your boy being taught to take long shots in windy conditions in the first place.
Think about this, a 7mm zeroed for 300 yds will drop about 50-60 inches at 600 yards, that's 4 to 5 feet. A 10 mph breeze will push a 7mm bullet 2 feet at 600 yds. IMO, If you have to hold off the animal you are shooting too far. I can hear it now, "Aim about 4 feet high and a 2 feet to the left and you MIGHT hit him."
Look at it this way, what if his gut shot ended badly - a lost but very dead deer? How would you both feel then? Would he want to continue hunting? I would hope he'd feel badly but eventually shake it off and continue hunting, but what if he just quit? Bad hits can happen under the best of conditions, why risk it?
IMO, a young hunter should be brought along by folks that set the correct examples. Taking low percentage shots on game animals is not the right way, it shows a lack of respect for the animal. I'm pretty sure you can expect your son to want a 7mm of his own so he can continue to pop off shots and 600 yds and maybe even beyond. Heck, his first try turned out so well.
I know you're a beginner as well, but I think you probably do realize that perhaps it would be better to teach the kid to hunt, so he can get close to game, so his shots are basically slam-dunks. Leave the longer range shooting to the shooting range.
12-02-2009, 02:08 PM
#10
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 1,304
Yes, that's a great story! I'm glad for you and your son. Sounds like a great adventure. I know what's it's like being around someone who got their first deer.
As for the shot and aforementioned criticism, being one of experience with long distance shooting, I highly doubt the shot was close to 600 yards. When I shoot that far, it's either a pre-marked distance or I have an electronic laser range finder. For most people they don't know their range much beyond 250 yards.
As for my criticism, I believe long shots should never be taken at game, unless that range has been practiced enough to be proficient at it. Hard to argue with success. He put the bad boy down and that's that. LOL!
Congrat's to both of you Ava. Fun times.
Now we need to see YOUR picture of the deer you got! Don't mean to put any undue pressure on yah!
iSnipe
As for the shot and aforementioned criticism, being one of experience with long distance shooting, I highly doubt the shot was close to 600 yards. When I shoot that far, it's either a pre-marked distance or I have an electronic laser range finder. For most people they don't know their range much beyond 250 yards.
As for my criticism, I believe long shots should never be taken at game, unless that range has been practiced enough to be proficient at it. Hard to argue with success. He put the bad boy down and that's that. LOL!
Congrat's to both of you Ava. Fun times.
Now we need to see YOUR picture of the deer you got! Don't mean to put any undue pressure on yah!
iSnipe
