RE: Drive Hunting
 

You can' t be being serious !! Or else you' ve never been bowhunting !!

RE: Drive Hunting
 

Umm, yes, I do bowhunt. I think your taking me out of context on this one though. What I am saying that is if you sitting in a stand that someone told you to sit in, then how does that require any more skill than any other type of hunting.

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I guess I probably took it out of context . But after reading the above posts I thought you were responding back to SA' s post comparing drive hunting to actually having to scout, place a stand, and hunt with a bow.
Now that I' m with you......... if I put you out on a stand and did a drive to push deer towards you (you hunting with a gun) or I put you in a stand on a food plot with a bow .........you don' t think there is a difference ?
I' ll agree things get closer but there is still a lot more skill required of the bow hunter .
Now a more realistic approach would be to look at this on a new piece of property. Do you think it would be more challenging to scout the land , hang stands, hunt the wind, clear shooting lanes , etc . and kill a nice buck or get 5-6 of your buddies and do a drive a kill the same buck on opening weekend ?
Is the answer that complicated ???

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No, it' s not complicated. I would say that what you described about scouting land, setting up stands and so on does take more skill.

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We hunt with a guy and his son who only hunt using drives. Let me tell you these guys are good. They have taken wall hangers evey year. Now keep in mind they do this during ARCHERY season[:o]. Shooting a wall hanger coming out of the brush at full speed with a bow. If i had not seen it done myself i would not beleive it either. They have over 30 mounts throught out their house. No, they are not hunting in texas, this is in western pa and western ny and northeastern ohio.

Their trick is to do a sh-- load of spotting, get permission from the landowner, do some scouting, find the excape route, set one guy up, the other guy push it out. Then be a good archer and you have got yourself a nice buck once again.

Just though i would share this with you guys. Seeing that i consider myself a avid hunter and have only seen a few wall hangers i find this to be amazing.

Eddie

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and so it continues[:' (]

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sa
It takes a lot to burst my bubble. Tell you what, instead of us beating our chest and mudslinging, I invite you up here for a friendly week of bowhunting. You pick the week. If you can take a wall hanger out of a tree stand in my main hunting area, I' ll pay for your liscense, gas to and back and house you with meals. If you can' t get a wall hanger out of a tree stand, you pay for your liscense and gas. The housing is still your' s for free with meals. The biggest buck I have got with bow is 145 gross/140 net. Shouldn' t be hard for a pro like you to beat. Since you seem to figure yourself quite the hunter, the wall hanger is that big or bigger. My main hunting ground covers 6000 acres. We have a lot of deer. There are only two of us that bowhunt this and since harvest runs pretty long for us, we don' t get much hunting in during Sept and most of Oct. , so the deer aren' t pressured by us. Course I drive deer so what would I know so take it for what it is worth. No need for you to bring lure, rattling horns, or scentlock clothing as you didn' t mention any of these in your previous posts and since you are gifted at reading deer sign and knowing the wind. Bring your bow rig, stand/stands and camos. A bow liscense can be bought over the counter for whitetail and you only need ID and a hunter saftey cert. if born after Dec of 61. Liscense should run about a 170 bucks for a non-res. Very cheap hunt even if you can' t find the big boy.

Tim

RE: Drive Hunting
 

TJF,
The original post was about whether drive hunting is considered " real hunting" by some . I take " real hunting" as meaning , it is real challenging . Now in your last post you just summed up what I think all the bowhunters responding on this thread are trying to say .
You have a difficult place to bowhunt, it requires a tremendous amount of energy, skill, and time to bag the big boy . So an easier way to be more productive is to perform deer drives !

To each his own, but in regards to the original question about challenging hunting ...........to me at least , you just proved my point !! ;)

RE: Drive Hunting
 

TJF,

I don' t think I implied anywhere in my posts that I am the World' s Greatest bowhunter. However, I have killed some pretty nice bucks with a bow. I don' t think I could come up to where you live, hunt one week and expect to kill a bruiser. Bow hunting just isn' t that easy. I feel sure that I could come up and scout them for the last couple of weeks of summer and kill one in early bow season. I do feel like I could come up there pick a few drivers up and pick a couple of good looking thickets and stand an excellent chance of killing one in a week. However, there is only a limited amount of time and financial resources that I have available each year. I choose to use those resources under circumstances that I find to be the most challenging. I just don' t find drives to be enough of a challenge for me personally. I am not knocking anyone else doing it. I am not saying that stand hunters are superior to drive hunters. I merely stated that stand/blind hunting is more challenging, especially with a bow. As far as the invitation goes, I will have to decline. I have a hunt booked in Illinois this year and one in Wyoming & one in Illinois next year. That' s about all the vacation I have.

RE: Drive Hunting
 

Me thinks a lot of people are speaking of which they know not.
How anyone can categorize one type of hunting over another is beyond me.
I' m against driving on public land, but could care less on private. Of course I share the concern that the vast majority of folks aren' t as proficient with a weapon as they like to think, and that' s born out by the number of deer I find dead each year with shotgun pellets in the guts from drive hunters each year shed hunting in NJ. But if you pick your shots, God bless.
I' ll shoot every dog running deer I see, always have, but if you have enough land to know you' re dog isn' t going to mess anyone else up, and stay on your property, sounds like a fun way to hunt.
Lots of folks think bowhunting is more challenging than gun hunting, what a joke! 4 months(including the rut) to get a deer within 40 yards, vs 6 days to get a deer within 100yds in most mid West shotgun states. You gotta be kidding.
If I had to feed myself on my deer, I' d take bowhunting every time.
Not trying to get off topic, just pointing out that you only look inexperienced when you make blanket statements about other' s methods. " Challenge" is a word often misused. The guy in my club with a recurrve is fond of saying what an additional challenge his hunting style is, meanwhile he' s shooting every antlered buck he can. I' m out there with a compound, killing mature bucks, but he thinks his hunting is more challenging, LOL. I got spikes and 4pts tripping over themselves all around my tree every week during the season.
Just trying to make a point, that yes, it' s easier to kill any given deer with a drive, vs stand hutning, in GENERAL, but some fella driving hard hunted land they' ve hunted for yeard, scuting escape routes, looking fior big sign to target specific areas, well, that' s not any less hunting than the guys with a private farm hunting over a food plot, it' s all relevant.
I' d suspect the success rate is much, much lower for drive hunting somewhere in North Central Canada, vs a fella bowhunting the Mid-Atlantic or SouthEast, where treestand bowhunting is pretty much a given.


Then again, maybe I should change my post so TJF invites me hunting.


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