.270WSM round for whitetails
07-12-2009, 06:16 AM
#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Southeast PA
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From that experience I have concluded that the .270 win. (and by extention, its cousin the .270 wsm) are varmit rounds. The top end heaviest you would want for cyote hunting or perhaps just right for antalope or cues deer. have hunted neither of the last 2 so its just my opinion.
07-12-2009, 06:19 AM
#22
Giant Nontypical
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From that experience I have concluded that the .270 win. (and by extention, its cousin the .270 wsm) are varmit rounds. The top end heaviest you would want for cyote hunting or perhaps just right for antalope or cues deer. have hunted neither of the last 2 so its just my opinion.
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07-12-2009, 01:24 PM
#23
Spike
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Port Jervis, NY
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This is my first post, but a 150 gr nosler partition runnin about 3100 fps(according to federal ammo website http://www.federalpremium.com/produc...le.aspx?id=247) ought to leave 2 holes for the what is left of internal organs leak out. Guys at camp shoot the partition out of 7mm-08, 270win, and 284win and love them.
07-12-2009, 05:41 PM
#24
Typical Buck
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.270wsm or a .270 win are FAAAARRRRRR from varmint rounds! LOL!! I'll let it be with that.
As far as the cost of shooting a WSM over a WIN round, I have no plans on putting thousands of rounds through paper for fun. I bought the wrong rifle if that's what I wanted to do.
As far as the cost of shooting a WSM over a WIN round, I have no plans on putting thousands of rounds through paper for fun. I bought the wrong rifle if that's what I wanted to do.
07-13-2009, 03:32 PM
#26
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: North Louisiana
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Now that's funny. I bought a .270 WSM in 2002 and have killed many deer with it, with ballistic tips albeit. The .270 and the .270 WSM are far from just varmit rounds. It's the most popular deer hunting caliber for a reason.
07-13-2009, 10:37 PM
#27
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: State of Missery
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I had a .270 Win. sighted in to shoot 130 grain balistic tips. My deer allways ran off. Now when I went to 30-06 & then on to .300 wsm they droped on the spot, or atleast did not leave my sight.
My .270 consistently did all its damage in between the ribs out to maybe the first lungs entrance side. The rest was just a puncture hole. almost any center fire can poke a hole through a deer when you don't count in the range. Even a .223 will do that. And any round will do if you do not look at WHERE the expantion happens.
I consider a round to be good enough for deer when the bullets will expand in the MIDDLE of the chest cavity not the entrance wound side that is where you really make the kill.
P.S. What I said about the differences between the WIN. WSM & wssm are correct, there is no reason to upgrade to one of them unless you are a re loader, then it makes sense to go to the WSSM's
My .270 consistently did all its damage in between the ribs out to maybe the first lungs entrance side. The rest was just a puncture hole. almost any center fire can poke a hole through a deer when you don't count in the range. Even a .223 will do that. And any round will do if you do not look at WHERE the expantion happens.
I consider a round to be good enough for deer when the bullets will expand in the MIDDLE of the chest cavity not the entrance wound side that is where you really make the kill.
P.S. What I said about the differences between the WIN. WSM & wssm are correct, there is no reason to upgrade to one of them unless you are a re loader, then it makes sense to go to the WSSM's
Last edited by Switchback_XT; 07-13-2009 at 10:39 PM. Reason: added P.S.
07-13-2009, 10:39 PM
#28
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Saskatchewan Canada
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Not going to get in to the BT debate more then to say my experience doesn't mirror yours with this bullet on canadian whitetail or mule deer.
Like mentioned if you don't want any shedding of core or much weight then your option is the Barnes TSX in the federal premium line. Even the TBBC tipped will shed some as it is not 100% copper like the TSX, however its core is supposedly not lead. It is bonded to the jacket (much like a AB, Interbond, etc). Personally i think you'll have no problems achieving full penetration with these bonded bullets either. Personal experience with the AB for example has been very much like a nosler partition on deer, elk and moose. Weight retention is 60% ish and pentration has only been haulted by big media or bone on the larger critters like moose. The wound channels & blood trails have been excellent on all game. I have yet to recover one flung through a deer - all pass thru's in my 7mm rem mag and 338wm.
Like mentioned if you don't want any shedding of core or much weight then your option is the Barnes TSX in the federal premium line. Even the TBBC tipped will shed some as it is not 100% copper like the TSX, however its core is supposedly not lead. It is bonded to the jacket (much like a AB, Interbond, etc). Personally i think you'll have no problems achieving full penetration with these bonded bullets either. Personal experience with the AB for example has been very much like a nosler partition on deer, elk and moose. Weight retention is 60% ish and pentration has only been haulted by big media or bone on the larger critters like moose. The wound channels & blood trails have been excellent on all game. I have yet to recover one flung through a deer - all pass thru's in my 7mm rem mag and 338wm.
07-14-2009, 04:34 AM
#29
Typical Buck
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I had a .270 Win. sighted in to shoot 130 grain balistic tips. My deer allways ran off. Now when I went to 30-06 & then on to .300 wsm they droped on the spot, or atleast did not leave my sight.
My .270 consistently did all its damage in between the ribs out to maybe the first lungs entrance side. The rest was just a puncture hole. almost any center fire can poke a hole through a deer when you don't count in the range. Even a .223 will do that. And any round will do if you do not look at WHERE the expantion happens.
I consider a round to be good enough for deer when the bullets will expand in the MIDDLE of the chest cavity not the entrance wound side that is where you really make the kill.
My .270 consistently did all its damage in between the ribs out to maybe the first lungs entrance side. The rest was just a puncture hole. almost any center fire can poke a hole through a deer when you don't count in the range. Even a .223 will do that. And any round will do if you do not look at WHERE the expantion happens.
I consider a round to be good enough for deer when the bullets will expand in the MIDDLE of the chest cavity not the entrance wound side that is where you really make the kill.
As a side discussion....
What is all the fascination with ballistic tips? I just don't get it. This is for medium game animals...deer, mulies, etc.. Why would you want a bullet that enters the animal and basically explodes? Sure...it rips it up when you make a good shot, but for a trackable kill do you really think it's the best option going? Meat loss?
07-14-2009, 05:19 AM
#30
Giant Nontypical
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You just answered it all to yourself! A 130gr ballistic tip out of a .270 probably isn't the best bullet option for a whitetail. I don't know why you've been knocking the .270 caliber when you didn't even try other bullet options.
As a side discussion....
What is all the fascination with ballistic tips? I just don't get it. This is for medium game animals...deer, mulies, etc.. Why would you want a bullet that enters the animal and basically explodes? Sure...it rips it up when you make a good shot, but for a trackable kill do you really think it's the best option going? Meat loss?
As a side discussion....
What is all the fascination with ballistic tips? I just don't get it. This is for medium game animals...deer, mulies, etc.. Why would you want a bullet that enters the animal and basically explodes? Sure...it rips it up when you make a good shot, but for a trackable kill do you really think it's the best option going? Meat loss?