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WNYhunter 12-19-2008 02:56 PM

RE: Neighbor's dog shot
 
I get why people will shoot a dog. I guess in the last story there I don't blame the guy. I wouldn't have done it in front of a client, but I would have done it. It's to bad, it's not the dogs fault but thats just the way it works.

3 S rules, shoot it, shovel it, shut up


Phil from Maine 12-19-2008 03:08 PM

RE: Neighbor's dog shot
 

Without all the facts about the shootingat the beginning of this it's hard to judge.
What's hard to judge? The fact the second dog ( mixed breed ) was running up to them all excited for him to shoot? Or the little beagle running across the field? It show's that this guy that moved in there with all his dollars was a brave man? I think he would get himself into a run in with all the locals there and wouldn't feel well at home for very long. I bet he doesn't get many sports in now either as I am sure the locals would help make sure of that. As Lanse has stated there is alot of laws out there now. They are constantly changing to make sure that peoples pets are not being shot by some fool. This may have been ok 12 years ago in your area but most likely it wasn't. I do not think he would of been able to guide anyone had this been reported back then either. If that took place here he most likely wouldn't be hunting any more as well and would of spent some time rethinking his logic in the slammer for a while.

Phil from Maine 12-19-2008 03:10 PM

RE: Neighbor's dog shot
 

ORIGINAL: WNYhunter

I get why people will shoot a dog. I guess in the last story there I don't blame the guy. I wouldn't have done it in front of a client, but I would have done it. It's to bad, it's not the dogs fault but thats just the way it works.

3 S rules, shoot it, shovel it, shut up

Just another brave hunter?

rybohunter 12-19-2008 03:17 PM

RE: Neighbor's dog shot
 
Everytime these threads come up, the lines get clearly drawn regarding how everyone feels. Some of the comments I can't even begin to comprehend. And beyond that, I can't believe someone would openly share them on a forum.
I believe it is an owners obligation to keep thier pet safe and accounted for at all times. But I am not so naive to think that accidents can't happen. There is an enormous difference to me between a free roaming "pet" and one that just happens to get out a time or 2. A continuously free roaming pet is rolling the dice that it will ever come back.
I cannot ever see myself killing a dog unless it was big and attacking me or my dogor causing phyiscal harm to another person.

Planter 12-19-2008 03:30 PM

RE: Neighbor's dog shot
 
Shoot, shovel and shut up sounds like you have done something you are guilty and ashamed about. If your willing to shoot it, man up and admit it.

Sometimes a dog needs shooting but as a first resort for a pet it stinks. It seems to me that if you really want to turn someone who is indifferent about hunting into an anti, shoot the dog. Great diplomacy and what a great reflection on hunters in general.

magicman54494 12-19-2008 03:52 PM

RE: Neighbor's dog shot
 
If my dog is running deer I will help you shoot it! I place the blame on the dog owner. If you don't take care of your dog it's no ones fault but your own. If you can't control your dog then don't own one. In most cases that I have seen it's the owners neglect that causes the problem. They think their dog should be able to run free and do whatever it wants. Then when something happens they get all bent out of shape.:eek:

Phil from Maine 12-19-2008 04:09 PM

RE: Neighbor's dog shot
 

If my dog is running deer I will help you shoot it! I place the blame on the dog owner. If you don't take care of your dog it's no ones fault but your own. If you can't control your dog then don't own one.
As stated way back in this thread some of the responsabilitylies on the owners without a doubt and the fact some dogs do and will escape from time to time. But if one of my dogs escape whileI was away at work or on a short trip and some fool shot it. They want to hopeI never find out who it was. That would be a real slim chance in this small town. as your own neighbor would most likely let me know. If my dogs are out hunting with bells on thier collars and you shot one. It wouldn't be long and you would surely see me. If my bird dog was running deer it wouldn't do me much good to keep it. But that does not allow you the right to shoot it. Whether or not your deer story is made up or not. Mine has broken loose only once this year. But they do in fact from time to time get loose and if we are home we get them back as soon as we find out they are not in the kennel. They normally do not stray off that far. Just think if you made that fool hardily mistake of shooting my dog you would surely never be able to hunt again at least in this state. Spend time locked up, pay all the court costs, and then pay me for all the damages your had cause by your actions.

magicman54494 12-19-2008 04:59 PM

RE: Neighbor's dog shot
 

ORIGINAL: Phil from Maine


If my dog is running deer I will help you shoot it! I place the blame on the dog owner. If you don't take care of your dog it's no ones fault but your own. If you can't control your dog then don't own one.
As stated way back in this thread some of the responcibilitylies on the owners without a doubt and the fact some dogs do and will escape from time to time. But if one of my dogs escape whileI was away at work or on a short trip and some fool shot it. They want to hopeI never find out who it was. That would be a real slim chance in this small town. as your own neighbor would most likely let me know. If my dogs are out hunting with bells on thier collars and you shot one. It wouldn't be long and you would surely see me. If my bird dog was running deer it wouldn't do me much good to keep it. But that does not allow you the right to shoot it. Whether or not your deer story is made up or not. Mine has broken loose only once this year. But they do in fact from time to time get loose and if we are home we get them back as soon as we find out they are not in the kennel. They normally do not stray off that far. Just think if you made that fool hardily mistake of shooting my dog you would surely never be able to hunt again at least in this state. Spend time locked up, pay all the court costs, and then pay me for all the damages your had cause by your actions.
According to your opening statement we agree. Almost. If just some of the responsability lies with the dog owner then who is responsible for the rest? Am I , your neighbor, somehow responsible for the care of your dog? There is a world of difference between a dog getting loose once in a while and one thats left to stray and do damage. Also I never said I would shoot your dog. I would shoot my own before I would allow it to be a burden to anyone or anything. I would take the full responsibility for not training and caring for it properly (including building a kennel that would hold them). And for the record, I hunt an area where there is a lot of dog/bear hunting. I have caught 4 different dogs that were lost and called the owners to come get them.

Phil from Maine 12-19-2008 05:22 PM

RE: Neighbor's dog shot
 

And for the record, I hunt an area where there is a lot of dog/bear hunting. I have caught 4 different dogs that were lost and called the owners to come get them.
I hunt the same type of area as well with bear hounds, coon hounds, bobcat hounds. and ect. They do tend to get lost more than most other dogs though. Getting them back or at least letting the owners know where they were helps them to recover as well. No one wants thier good hunting dogs running all over the place.


I would take the full responsibility for not training and caring for it properly (including building a kennel that would hold them).
Same here and for as far as the kennel goes they tend to beak the aluminum wires to get under the fence and you have to check for that often. But there are times they do escape. Also when company walks threw the door they tend to exit rather quickly. But if I am home when this happens they respond to me rather quicky and are back inside in no time. If the wife is home when this happens they they do not respond so well. So we have a trick and it's called opening up the car door for them. they jump in and wait for me to get home to get them out of it.


Am I , your neighbor, somehow responsible for the care of your dog?
No not at all but it doesn't give anyone the right to shoot it either. i am not saying you would but others here have clearly stated that.

bigbucks98 12-19-2008 05:34 PM

RE: Neighbor's dog shot
 
Im with ya droptine! Pardon the language lol but id giv him the ass beating of a lifetime and that wouldnt be enough to settle it for me!


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