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please tell me there are some descent people of at least some morals out there. i just had my hunt ruined by a guy road hunting. it pisses me off to invest so much time and money into what i love to have someone ruin it by being lazy and pulling off and shooting at deer. not only was it lazy, but it was dangerous as i was only 40 yards away. if it's not dogs being run all over it's freakin' road hunters. i'm getting fed up with hunting at my own home. i need to either find a good friend to hunt with who shares my views on dogs and stupidity, or just move. i don't know where i could move though because anywhere within driving distance of where i work will have the same problems. dammit i'm disgusted.

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These type of people are the minority of the hunting community. Unfortunately, there are people in this minority about anywhere you could hunt.

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Year before last, my daughter was hoping to get her first buck.
We were hunting about 60 yards off of a little county road in a buddy stand when a nice 6 pointer ran up to the side of the road on the opposite side. I cautioned her about shooting across the road and explained that we'd have to wait until he crossed the road and had passed us to be safe.
Just as he started to cross, a couple of road hunters come up the road. The deer crosses and passes us. I bawl and he stops not 30 yards above us. The road hunters then come to a sliding halt right below us and the buck heads for parts unknown. The hunters see my daughter and I glaring at them and peel out to look for something else to screw up.

Movin ain't neccesarily gonna solve your problems buddy. There's duma$$es bout everywhere you go.

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Road Hunters = Poachers IMO

Its illegal here and Its poaching. If they are not legaly hunting they are poachers. So call it what it is.

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You're not alone when it comes to a hunt being spoiled by a roadhunter. The way you say investing time and moey though is only half of it. Just think of how many of these roadhunters piss landowners off and in turn have them saying no to hunters.

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Where are you from Rusty? you seem to have a lot of issues with dog runners and poachers. In Tennessee where I'm from dog running is illegal and I agree 100%. also if you road hunt and get caught they take your vehicle, your gun, your hunting license for a while, and possibly your house. However everyone is right doesn't matter wha tlaws are made by the state there will always be dumba$$es everywhere.

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Yes they are in every state and moving doesn't change anything. Your best bet is to get their license number or type of vehicle and report them. Lucky for us most hunters are law abiding.

Spudrow from Mo

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I'd call the law on that douche bag.

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If you check around on this site you will probably hear farmorestories of hunts being ruined by other still hunters than anyone else. Trying to avoid hunting right next to a road might help some.

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here you go with your still hunters are the problem statements again. great

Road hunters suck, there lazy and they give the sport a bad name, even though in my opinion they dont share anything in common with me. Last year i had a guy back up in front of my house to shoot a deer in my yard. I watched as he got his gun up and everything. When i came out side right before he shot, waiving my bage he **** himself. That was fun. He was shaking in boots for a while, the local sherrif took him off about 10mns later, apperently this guy wasnt even supposed to have a firearm. Best advice is call the law. Get the tags the make the model et al. There dangerous.

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I'm not the one that started with the over-generalization and am just stating a fact. Sorry if that is hard for some folks to swallow.

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Just curious if you would be POed at a guy/gal that was a non-hunter, but was fascinated by seeing deer, stopping his car when he sees a deer to watch. I have a hard time believing that everyone on the forum does not stop their vehicle (when safe to do) to watch or glass deer from the road even if it is on property that you don't hunt. Your stopping (even on your way to church) has a high probability of spooking that deer that is just a few yards away from being harvested by a young kid or novice hunter. We all do it (although not with a gun, but the gun didn't scare of any deer it was the vehicle) so now we are all poachers, give me a break. Now if you shoot from the road, yea, but scaring deer off when you stop a car to watch??? Nice to know that you are able to generalize all stopped vehicles as road hunters.

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Dunno, unless i am misreading something, it sounds like he had a legitimate complaint. But, then again,a lot can go wrong when you are setting up 40 yards from a road.

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i've had that same trouble as the word about some of the deer in the area i go which is crown land "open to everyone" got out. the road hunters would drive around all day cracking shots at everything moving. very sad and it got to the point that my van that was parked off the road at a trailhead ended up with a bullet that went through the hood ,airfilter,dash and ended up in the hitting my thermos of coffee of all things. i figure he was shooting at a deer crossing the road,missed and hit my van. next day after a little looking around i followed a blood trailand found a buck in the bush about 40 yards from my van so i guess he shot a few times. one hit the deer the other my van. road hunting has gotten way outta control and is definely a hot button topic with me. my advise to get away from them is to do what i do and go as far into the bush as you can.

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Damn, would be a real shame if somebody about half a mile away took out their tire while they were pulling one of their stunts. Cough, cough, hint, cough[:@]

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:D:D

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As long as it is a clean shot and the tire doesn't suffer too much, yep it is:D

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I started off here in Alabama running deer with hounds, and loved to hear the dogs bawl. But that was then, when we had access of 10's of thousands of acres of very rural paper company land on which to loose a pack of 3-4 hounds.Though I loved my hounds and loved running deer with them, I quit dog hunting because I tired of hunting my dogs. Those of you who have hunted deer with hounds know of what I speak ! Every one else is gone to the house and we "dog men" are riding roads looking for "Rover". I became a "stand" hunter in about 1978. Gave my 3 beloved hounds, (Spud, Belle and Cisco)to a good friend.

Frankly I have had far more success since and for me it is a whole lot of fun to try to figure out where to place a stand.

Truth is that dog hunting deer here has fallen on hard times. I hate it for those who do it right. But the slob hunters have ruined it for those guys.Very few counties allow dog hunting across the season and some don't allow it at all.

As for "Roaders", they are bums ... but they care not.

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Mojo,

Would be nice if some of the stand hunters were a little more careful about where/how they place their stands. I've got several ruined hickory and oak trees on my property from spike nails and abandoned stands that grew into the trees. Compared to that, a pack of houndcutting across the corner of myproperty is nothing.You can find slob hunters wherever you want to look for them.[:o]

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Wow you need to read better. The man was inRed pick up truck, late model ford. He had a rifle barrel sticking out of his window scoping in on deer that was on the side of my house. I new the deer was there because i to my self was watching it from the kitchen window. It was small 6 point. It was feeding on the girlfriends flowers, didnt bother me, that just means i dont have to water them. But when the truck went past and then put it in reverse coming down my road, i took notice. My house is on small country road and my house was only about 20 yards off the road. I saw him get is gun out. Thats when i went outside to scar the deer off and confront him. I have people come down the road all the time and slow down when deer are on the side of my house, i dont care, but to stop, slam it in reverse and take a look at the deer through your rifle scope when its maybe 40yrds off the road and 20 yards off my driveway, Yeah i got a problem! I believe you need to read things a little clearer my friend. I bolded it in my orginal statement for you. I dont care if you watching deer, i do it all the time too, but i dont do it looking through the scope of my rifle.

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thank you crenshaw. i have no problem with people stopping and looking, but when you stop and shoot and i'm in the woods, it's dangerous, it's lazy, and it really pisses me off because as i said i've invested a lot of time and money into my location.

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All you guys who are witness to these road, slob hunters, etc should turn them into the game warden. In my opinion.


Spudrow from Mo

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Even setting up 40yrds from a road on the ground is illegal in most of Ontario. We can't shoot across a road or even discharge a firearm within 50yrds of one. I don't mind those laws, but they still get broken.

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You get stupid people everywhere.

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We have a couple of large unposted alfalfa fields near my house. I occasionally hunt back there and am concerned the farmer will post the property because lazy road hunters drive all over the fields. Before the season I put up a sign at the edge of the field openings asking that people not drive on the fields. 2 days after I did it I was coming home and saw a truck coming down out of the field and drive right around the signs. Lazy slob hunters are out there even in Vermont. I'll talk with the farmer and next year hopefully there will be a large log blocking both access points. Since they are so lazy they probably wouldn't want to get their fat asses out of their trucks to move them.[:@]

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I hear what your saying Betterbirddogs. I am not a huge rifle hunter and I typically only use mine out west where i think a rifle is a must in some cases. But where i hunt whitetails its just not necessary at all. In fact i think it does more harm then good where i hunt.

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Well since shooting out of a truck or from the road on land they have no right to hunt is illegal (poaching) and shooting a deer at 1350 yards on land he had permission on and had the right equipment and skills to do so isn't illegal....I'd say the first is alot more "unethical" It doesn't matter if you make it illegal to hunt with a rifle or not. These people are already breaking the law by killing deer (poaching) driving along and seeing and shooting deer on other peoples property. Why would they care what weapon they use. Oh maybe because you made it more illegal? Sorry that argument holds up just like anti-gun laws that are supposidly inteded to stop crime because now the gun they use to rob a store or murder someone is illegal.....Do you realy think I guy who intends to rob a store will think "I was going to rob that store but If I use this gun it would be wrong" They don't care!

There is a huge differnce between a guy legaly hunting and someone poaching. So call it what it is. Not Road Hunting, Poaching!

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You can't be serious. The population of animals would explode and reek havoc on property, vehicles, etc,not to mention disease. I don't agree with you on the sporting issue. I rifle hunt, bow hunt, muzzle loader hunt, andpistol hunt. I also reload all my bullets and make my own lead balls for my black powder guns. I also spend a lot of time at the range to hone my shooting skills. If these slob hunters would beturned in to the authorities, it wouldn't eliminate the problem but I believe it would make a big difference. Most of these posts are about watching slob hunters and not much about doing what it takes to help stop them. As always this is just my opinion.


Spudrow from Mo

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I can't agree with this bit of wizdom. I hunt with bow, smoke pole, small game hunt and yes hunt with rifle or shotgun. I hunt deer, caribou and elk for large game. To make a statement like that makes me confident I wouldn't want to hunt with you.

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Kind of reminds me of the guy who preached tome that the only truely sporting way to hunt deer is with a bow, but then the following year he got caught illegally baiting.:D

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A lot of folks who legally have hunting licenses and deer tags hunt of their trucks and chase deer around on private and public property in vehicles. If you guys think that its only the "poachers" who do this you're dillusional.


I'm not trying to spread any wisdom or anything. This is my take on how you can help control folks who do this type of thing.

As far as deer populations go what a stupid argument. I have shot 5 does and a nice buck with my bow. It's a lazy mans excuse to say you need a rifle to kill deer.

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I assume that you didnt hunt out of a stand and that you stalked those deer without benefit of camo, scents, etc. Also gonna assume that you used a handmade wooden "traditional" bow with deer sinew for string. Anything else would be downright lazy:D

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We should all be agreeing that road hunting is wrong. However, to question a fellow hunter's method is just flat out wrong. Where I hunt I generally don't get shots much over a hundred yards. It doesn't matter what firearm I use at that range. Saying that rifle hunting is not sport is the most ridiculous claim I've ever heard. If its not your weapon of choice fine, but don't question if everyone is a sportsman who hunts with a rifle. I'm almost certain I've killed as many deer with a bow as you have, however if its gun season I use a gun.

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So your saying if you have a license anything goes. Just because the guy has a license and maybe even hunts legaly sometimes does not mean the practice your describing is not poaching. He knowingly uses illegal practices to kill animals....that is poaching...no matter what legaly purchased tags may be in his pocket....Its not hunting its poaching.

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A lot of folks who legally have hunting licenses and deer tags hunt of their trucks and chase deer around on private and public property in vehicles. If you guys think that its only the "poachers" who do this you're dillusional.


I'm not trying to spread any wisdom or anything. This is my take on how you can help control folks who do this type of thing.

As far as deer populations go what a stupid argument. I have shot 5 does and a nice buck with my bow. It's a lazy mans excuse to say you need a rifle to kill deer.

betterbirddogs, you must not live in eastern NC. and people arguing over what is the correct tool to use? this is supposed to be about me venting about roadhunting. and fyi, in eastern nc it's practically a must to have a rifle; there is thick terrain, and thin, nothing in between, and extremely flat land, and the place i hunt is so thick with briars, i could not even begin to try and squeeze an arrow through. i bow hunt, but not at my home, not in my area, it's just not very conducive to that particular style of hunting. any legal weapon that can be used to take deer i support, and try to participate in the appropriate seasons with.

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Oh I see. If it isn't your way it isn't good.I have known people like you and as usual they like you are full of them selves just like you. You call me lazy I call you an idiot.

Spudrow from MO

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I had the same problem last year pulled off a little CSI New York did a little investigating and turned them into the DEC in new york they were fined and received 15 tickets and lost there licenses for at least five years less of these guys out there is better for the guys like us that hunthard and the right way.

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buddy of mine just had two 4yr old 8pts shot in the head and left for dead after years of management. one would score in the 130's the other mid 40's i'd say. i pray all road hunters and spotlighters be caught by the warden

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ridge runner, i think it's awesome to pull off a 1300 yard shot. that's like 3900 feet. that's out there. my personal best was a lung shot on a doe at 297 yards. she went all of 20 yards. but i respect what you do if some of these people don't. rifle hunting is hard whether you're 300 yards and in, or out 4/5 of a mile.