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blazehunter09 12-07-2008 03:07 PM

slug gun
 
i'm looling for a slug gun that doesn't cost more than $350-$400 also if you can tell me the range on it that would be great!

NEOhioHunter 12-07-2008 03:57 PM

RE: slug gun
 
Remington 870 for sure. Reliable as all hell, and very accurate with the right sabot. I love mine. I don't have shots further than 50 yards where I hunt but I know that with the correct scope combo it would do well over 100 yards, especially with the correct sabot slug.

halfrack VIII 12-07-2008 03:58 PM

RE: slug gun
 
remington 870 20 ga. then go buy a hastings rifled slug barrel

bowmanaj 12-07-2008 04:14 PM

RE: slug gun
 
H&R Ultra Slug, or Rem. 870.......... Cant go wrong with either

Hurricanespg 12-07-2008 04:14 PM

RE: slug gun
 
For a dedicated slug gun a H&R Slug Hunter would hit in your price range and would do a lot better job than the 870.

mossbergman11/OH 12-07-2008 04:42 PM

RE: slug gun
 
a single shot h and r slug gun or a mossberg 500 slug gun

piketon_hunter#9 12-07-2008 05:15 PM

RE: slug gun
 

ORIGINAL: Hurricanespg

For a dedicated slug gun a H&R Slug Hunter would hit in your price range and would do a lot better job than the 870.
just curious, whats ur logic with this??

mossbergman11/OH 12-07-2008 06:20 PM

RE: slug gun
 
H&R's are single shot

Jasonlester 12-07-2008 09:24 PM

RE: slug gun
 
Rem 870 3 inch groups at 100 yards. hard to beat that


Tuco 12-07-2008 10:17 PM

RE: slug gun
 
Took this buck with an H&R Ultra Slug 20 gauge. Many nice guns to choose from in that price range. Go to a gun store and handle them all and shoot if possible and get the one you like. Anymore with the barrels and slugs out there, you can find a combo that will get the job done.


Jasonlester 12-08-2008 07:34 AM

RE: slug gun
 

ORIGINAL: Tuco

Took this buck with an H&R Ultra Slug 20 gauge. Many nice guns to choose from in that price range. Go to a gun store and handle them all and shoot if possible and get the one you like. Anymore with the barrels and slugs out there, you can find a combo that will get the job done.

Showoff!
LOL Good point on the guns though. There are alot of good guns. I do like the H&R and have only heard good things about them. Never shot one though.


BTW
Here is mine from last year 80 yard off hand shot.



Hurricanespg 12-08-2008 08:41 AM

RE: slug gun
 

ORIGINAL: piketon_hunter#9


ORIGINAL: Hurricanespg

For a dedicated slug gun a H&R Slug Hunter would hit in your price range and would do a lot better job than the 870.
just curious, whats ur logic with this??
That it would be easier for him if he were to need a dedicated slug gun to get better accuracy at longer distances with a shotgun built for shooting slugs.
I'm not dissing any other shotgun out there, just stating that it would be easier to get better accuracy at longer ranges withoneof the H&R slug gunsthan with an 870, or pretty much any other pump or auto out there.

madvilledoc 12-08-2008 11:20 AM

RE: slug gun
 
I have a Rem. 870 12G as well. Great shotgun. I prefer, however, my bolt-action Marlin 512 slugmaster. It's hard to beat a bolt-action for accuracy. I can hit the same hole at 100 yards with the Marlin. I got mine off of gunbroker for about $300. The only drawback I see with the Marlin is that it is heavier and kicks harder than the 870 (but not that bad).

Marlin 512 Slugmaster 12G



Western MA Hunter 12-08-2008 11:25 AM

RE: slug gun
 
Can't go wrong w/ any Remington Slug gun... I still use my father's old 1100. I put a rifled barrell on it topped w/ a Leupold 3x9x40.

Drives tacks...


sjsfire 12-08-2008 11:33 AM

RE: slug gun
 
I have three right now, 870, 1187, and a Mossberg 500. If I was to buy one today it would be the H&R USH in 20 gauge due to the comments I've been hearing about it. Matter of fact I've only been hunting with my muzzleloaders the last two years. I'm ready to sell my barrels for the 1187 and Mossberg and get a USH.

UncleNorby 12-08-2008 11:54 AM

RE: slug gun
 
I've got a marlin 512 Slugmaster as well. Carries like a 2x4, but shoots very well.

Took a nice 9 pointer this year. Not sure why they quit making them.

vadeerkiller 12-08-2008 01:17 PM

RE: slug gun
 
USH for me. Kindly like the thumbhole stock version.

hossdaniels 12-08-2008 01:18 PM

RE: slug gun
 
Savage 10 ML ll.

I know, I know, its not a slug gun, but I've never seen a 300 yd slug gun, or a slug gun shoot under 1" groups. Dont overlook ML'sif you are worried aboutrange. The black and blue one goes for about $500.

krabbiepatty 12-08-2008 01:35 PM

RE: slug gun
 
I am looking for a slug gun also, what is the advantage/disadvantage of a 12 ga versus a 20 gauge?

hossdaniels 12-08-2008 01:46 PM

RE: slug gun
 
20ga has less recoil, and less downrange energy (800ft/lb@200yds in 20ga vs 1200ft/lbs@200yds for the 12ga sst slugs)

But seeing how 200 yds is pushing the envelope for slugs anyway, that may not be a real disadvantage. I would not want to go any lower than 800 ft/lbs for deer.

Its been rumored that 20ga slugs are more accurate, which was proven wrong by outdoor life this fall.


DeerandbearhoG 12-08-2008 01:50 PM

RE: slug gun
 

ORIGINAL: hossdaniels

Savage 10 ML ll.

I know, I know, its not a slug gun, but I've never seen a 300 yd slug gun, or a slug gun shoot under 1" groups. Dont overlook ML'sif you are worried aboutrange. The black and blue one goes for about $500.
Ill 2nd the savage, no other ML or slug gun can match its accuracy or ballistics. Although 300yds seems stretching it a bit, you get true 200yd++ performance w/ half the recoil!

My puttycat load is a piddily 40grs of imr4759 and a 250 gr SW / 2000FPS! Low recoil , 1.5MOA, and drops deer!

Ive loaded as much as 44grs and cronied 2400FPS!

No cleaning ,No smoke!

Its is heavy at 11lbs w/ scope though. but most shotguns and MLs are on the heavy side though.

hossdaniels 12-08-2008 01:54 PM

RE: slug gun
 
No, streching honest. 4-5" groups at 300 yds, and only 20" of hold over. 250 yds is a gimme with this thing.60g n120 and a 300g .458 barnes original at 2300fps will do it.

DeerandbearhoG 12-08-2008 02:51 PM

RE: slug gun
 

ORIGINAL: hossdaniels

No, streching honest. 4-5" groups at 300 yds, and only 20" of hold over. 250 yds is a gimme with this thing.60g n120 and a 300g .458 barnes original at 2300fps will do it.
No, I'm sure its doable, Ive just never taken a shot over 90 yds at a deer w/ a ML is all. The farthest Ive ever shot mine at the range is around 180yds to be honest, and at 1'' high, it only dropped about 2" which was pretty impressive to me.

20" of holdover is probably more than I'd personally feel comfortable w/ but Im a NE brush hunter. If I was out west I'd probably practice regularly at that range.

It really is amazing though what the Savage is capable of.

BTW sorry to HIjak guys.



piketon_hunter#9 12-08-2008 03:36 PM

RE: slug gun
 

ORIGINAL: Hurricanespg


ORIGINAL: piketon_hunter#9


ORIGINAL: Hurricanespg

For a dedicated slug gun a H&R Slug Hunter would hit in your price range and would do a lot better job than the 870.
just curious, whats ur logic with this??
That it would be easier for him if he were to need a dedicated slug gun to get better accuracy at longer distances with a shotgun built for shooting slugs.
I'm not dissing any other shotgun out there, just stating that it would be easier to get better accuracy at longer ranges withoneof the H&R slug gunsthan with an 870, or pretty much any other pump or auto out there.
i wasnt accusing you of dissing anything, i was jus wonderin why you thought this way.
i like the h&r slug guns, and the bolt action slug guns, but i do a lot of drives during our gun season and follow up shots are important to me. i would probably use my muzzleloader if such wasnt the case

Planter 12-08-2008 03:52 PM

RE: slug gun
 
What sort of scope base system does the H&R use?? Is it drilled and tapped for a rail? Thats one of the drawback with the 870, 1100 or Mossberg. You need to buy a cantilever barrel if your gonna put glass on it. I just never had real good luck with the side saddle scope bracket.

Another question... Does the H&R have a heavy slug barrel or pretty much a regular shotgun wall? It sure can't weigh anymore than my 1187 SP. That things a tank!!

Thinking on an H&R myself. What the bottom line?$$$$

moss50012 12-08-2008 03:54 PM

RE: slug gun
 
is price wasn't an issue what is the best slug gun?

Hurricanespg 12-08-2008 03:57 PM

RE: slug gun
 
hoss; I'm afraid that Outdoor Life did not do much proving of anything in their test.
moss; The best slug gun is going to be subjective, but I would cast a vote for Tar Hunt.

hossdaniels 12-08-2008 04:08 PM

RE: slug gun
 
Didn't prove anything, true. But the 12ga's were more accurate, and that was alot of rounds. I've always heard 20's were more accurate.

Tuco 12-08-2008 05:04 PM

RE: slug gun
 
My 20 gauge USHcame with the weaver style base on it . My uderstanding is that the 20 gauges have 12 gauge barrels and the 12 gauge have 10 gauge barrels...drilled for their gauge. So yes they are a heavy barrel. Now this is on the Ultra Slug Hunter models.

ORIGINAL: Planter

What sort of scope base system does the H&R use?? Is it drilled and tapped for a rail? Thats one of the drawback with the 870, 1100 or Mossberg. You need to buy a cantilever barrel if your gonna put glass on it. I just never had real good luck with the side saddle scope bracket.

Another question... Does the H&R have a heavy slug barrel or pretty much a regular shotgun wall? It sure can't weigh anymore than my 1187 SP. That things a tank!!

Thinking on an H&R myself. What the bottom line?$$$$

mossbergman11/OH 12-08-2008 05:27 PM

RE: slug gun
 

ORIGINAL: moss50012

is price wasn't an issue what is the best slug gun?
whatever one you like;)

i have heard awesome things about the ithaca deer slayers

Planter 12-09-2008 07:14 AM

RE: slug gun
 
Is that right Tuco!! A 12g blank bored for a 20g round sounds solid as a rock. I might just go for the 20g as I'm not a big fan ofkick. It's not like I have ever shot a deer with a slug gun past 75 yards anyway.

If monies no object take a peak at the Tar Hunts but they are sure not giving those away.



LeftyBuckmaster 12-09-2008 07:50 AM

RE: slug gun
 
Well I have to push for the 870 solid gun and if you need a second shot it just takes on quick cycle and you can shoot again. Every time a get a shot at a deer with the 870 the deer is down. I put a Hastings barrel on mine because they made an open sight left hand barrel which Remington did not. This year I needed the second shot after my first shot with Hornady SST failed upon impacting the shoulder. I am very accurate with this gun up to 150 yards with open sights but it takes practice and finding the right round. Personally I will not be shooting the SST again just because any other slug would have penetrated the shoulder no problem but it shot well out of my gun. You can pick up an open sight slug gun in your price range but if you want to put a scope on it you will be over your price range.


kickin_buck 12-09-2008 07:50 AM

RE: slug gun
 
H&R Ultra, either in the 12ga or the 20ga. I shoot the 12ga and both of my boys shoot the 20ga. 2" groups with both shooting lightfields at 100 yards, both are capable of 200 yard shots with the faster ammo. The 20ga is a flatter shooting, so if you are wanting to stretch your shots, I would go with the 20ga. With out a doubt the best dedicated slug gun on the market.

fastetti 12-09-2008 10:12 AM

RE: slug gun
 
I have the 870 slug gun. Great gun and puts the deer down hard. Due to a last minute foul up with my scope (My fault) I used a buddies Mossberg 500 combo. I boresighted the barrel with a laser boresight (A must have) put 3 shots through it the day before the season and was dead on and smoked a nice buck opening day. I just did a google search on it and saw this. Its pretty cheap and I know D icks has a sale on them every year as well. Adding a decent scop and mounts shouldnt run you more than another $100. Theres actually the same model out there that has a scope included with the mounts. The scope isn't too good, but you can switch to a different scope fairly easily and can have a good combo for less than $400 bucks.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_336/products_id/46910

hossdaniels 12-09-2008 10:44 AM

RE: slug gun
 
Please dont put a $100 scope on a slug gun, might as well burn the money.

Edit, that might be a little harsh. The weaver k4 is a pretty good scope and its around $100.

mossbergman11/OH 12-10-2008 04:25 PM

RE: slug gun
 

ORIGINAL: LeftyBuckmaster

Well I have to push for the 870 solid gun and if you need a second shot it just takes on quick cycle and you can shoot again. Every time a get a shot at a deer with the 870 the deer is down. I put a Hastings barrel on mine because they made an open sight left hand barrel which Remington did not. This year I needed the second shot after my first shot with Hornady SST failed upon impacting the shoulder. I am very accurate with this gun up to 150 yards with open sights but it takes practice and finding the right round. Personally I will not be shooting the SST again just because any other slug would have penetrated the shoulder no problem but it shot well out of my gun. You can pick up an open sight slug gun in your price range but if you want to put a scope on it you will be over your price range.


yeah i would much rather have iron sights than a scope. i had to get a scope with my mossy 500 becasuse the slug barrel that came with it needed a scope. so i got a 30 dollar bsa red dot and its fine

fastetti 12-11-2008 10:18 AM

RE: slug gun
 

ORIGINAL: hossdaniels

Please dont put a $100 scope on a slug gun, might as well burn the money.

Edit, that might be a little harsh. The weaver k4 is a pretty good scope and its around $100.
Ouch, I was just trying to help the guy out. It seems like he is a little strapped for cash so I didn't want to make him think he needed a $300 scope. Ive picked up a few decent scoped at Bass Pro and Online for sale prices of $100. With my rifles I use much more expensive scopes, but for $100 he should be able to pick up a nice shot gun scope that will do the job. Hoss, I know you were just trying to help, but when your strapped for cash, its nice to hear that you can pick up a decent gun and a sufficient scope for what you are looking for.

jrfrmn 12-12-2008 08:54 AM

RE: slug gun
 
Why Hastings?



ORIGINAL: halfrack VIII

remington 870 20 ga. then go buy a hastings rifled slug barrel

jrfrmn 12-12-2008 08:59 AM

RE: slug gun
 
3'' groups using which slug?





ORIGINAL: Jasonlester

Rem 870 3 inch groups at 100 yards. hard to beat that



jrfrmn 12-12-2008 09:35 AM

RE: slug gun
 
The 12ga Remington ultra sabot slugs still have 1741 ft # at 200yrds.According to Remington.The trade off is the recoil.




ORIGINAL: hossdaniels

20ga has less recoil, and less downrange energy (800ft/lb@200yds in 20ga vs 1200ft/lbs@200yds for the 12ga sst slugs)

But seeing how 200 yds is pushing the envelope for slugs anyway, that may not be a real disadvantage. I would not want to go any lower than 800 ft/lbs for deer.

Its been rumored that 20ga slugs are more accurate, which was proven wrong by outdoor life this fall.



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