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I am the owner and host of a national Hunting Show. I am gearing up for the 2009 season and I'd like to truely know what you guys really want to see. I mean from animals, show content, equipment, funny stuff, tips, etc... What do you like and don't like. The 2009 season will be controlled solely by my pocket book therefore I can do and show whatever I want. So I am dead serious, I want real and honest suggestions from you.

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Im sick of hunting couples , "management" bucks, and food plots.

It be cool to see a show with regular guys hunting regular deer, with their own equipment and for god sake's somewhere besides Texas, Iowa & canada.

I never seem to see any shows about hunting the big woods in the north east, thats what I'd like to see.

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Just don't come to Missouri;).

Seriously though, I think what you need to have is a show that has a ton of information on it, but you also need to have the kills. Because in all reality that's what MOST people want to see.

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Can We get a show that has actual hunting like in the northeast or somewhere. Show some hunting is real places where people actually hunt. Not every hunt ends with a 200 class whitetail. Get out there and make it realistic, and that would be great.

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AGREED!
aslo i would like to see how u got the set up adn the area i think that would help many people in stand/blind location. also it really make me mad when some oen shoot a deer or something then they are tracking it and the cameraman ahead of hunter...standing right by the deer, then the hunter looks around and he looks towrds the camera and O wow look theres the deer... idk if u got that or not but the just makes me mad
and whats the show called?...god luck

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I love trophy bucks but I am tired of seeing 100 killed a day on tv. Show regular guys with regular equipment shooting regular deer. I love seeing a guy that is proud of taking a doe or a sixer and not having to call it a management buck. Wait for the trophy but don't be ashamed to shot something that small but legal.

Another thing is I like to know what equipment people are using not just the sponsers. I like a hunter to tell what gun, caliber, ammo, and scope.

Get out of TX and the like and go to AL, GA, SC, PA, etc. where regular folks hunt.

Enough outfitter I can't afford, find a hunt club or public land.

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I've been wanting to express my opinion on this for a long time.

1. I would love to see average guys from different parts of the country hunting the same deer that "real average joes" really shoot. I'm so tired of seeing all the same "professional" hunters hunting the same 150 plus class deer that the majority of the country will never get to even see. I live in Eastern Alabama and let's face it.... we just don't have the monster deer here and I'd love to see guys that I can relate to hunting the same deer that I get to hunt.

2. I'd also like to see some public land hunting, starting from the map reading, to the scouting, to the actual hunting and seeing the end result be an average public land deer.

3. I'd like to see more handicap hunting..... bring in some handicap people who's hunting areas are limited to what their physical capabilities can allow them and give them a good hunt with the opportunity at some world class deer. I hate seeing people who are handicap not having as much of an opportunity hunt scoreable deer as everyone else..... everyone should have the chance.

4. Bring in some new hunters, hunters that the tv world hasn't ever seen. Don't get me wrong I am a fan of some of the tv hunters out there but new talent is all over the world.... give some average joes the opportunity to make their wishes a reality and show the world what they can.... plus most of the hunting world can relate to average joes better than they can hyped up "pros"...... (sidenote: I'm available to come onboard....lol)

5. Me personally I'd like to see more predator hunting on tv.... I like seeing the mountain lion, leopards, african lions, and so on taken out on camera. Predator hunting has always been exciting for me to watch. Just the thrill of hunting something that can hunt you back is enough to get my attention.

6. Last but not least lets see some fun!!! All of us hunters like to have fun in the woods or around the campfire. Lets see some fun activites instead of the whole show being focused on the hunt everyone being so serious. I love watching Ted Nuggent because he brings the show to life, he has fun on the camera and therefor lets the audience have fun with him. Lets see the mishaps, the campfire jokes and the all around fun that this sport brings us.

Just my 2 cent!!

Jeremy

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How about a show that starts out with you going to a local bow shop, local gun shop or gun range anywhere in the country. Pick a hunter or two (totaly by surprise and random)and go hunt with them. Show how you scouted the land, set up the spot, and shot the animal, Be it a Buck, doe, spike whatever.

I envision it like this. Michael Wadell or (insert your favorite hunter) comes up to me at my gun range prior to season and says he wants to film a hunt with me. (this is all caught on film of course)We would use the land i was going to hunt be it private or public. We would have pieces on how we scouted it, how we decided where to set the stands or blinds. and then film away.

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Hunt in the Big Woods, preferably on public land, not on managed game farms, and not in South Texas. Hunt like a common person would, not with the newest name brand equipment you can find.

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Maybe make a show about the animals themselves rather than its host. Every show is all about the host and there is relatively nothing about the animal they are pursuing. Obviously have a host on it but maybe add in some interesting info about the animal in the commentary, and not just something about a whitetail deer.

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also...bring in the YOUTH get other people started (i am availible for this lol)

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I would also like them to explain a lot better what they are doing.....I like to see the kills and all but I would also like to know how they got in that place. All they say right now is we got to our stand here in Iowa on so and so's private land and now we are gonna shoot a monster buck.

I would like to hear them say why they picked that spot. The things they were looking for in that location. Also why they shoot the bow, rest, sights, etc....that they shoot. What are the advantages. Talk more about the hunting aspect of hunting than just the killing.

Also I would like the first half to be a hunt. Then a little info thingy in the middle such as....here is this rest, it works like this, and offers you this. Then the last half hunt too. Maybe takes shots with 3 types of rests to show the difference...(rests is just an example).

That is my opinion.

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If you follow what these guys are saying and put lots of archery in if possible you can be sure as heck that ill be watchin these shows. Good luck this season.

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One question that is on here often is how to clean a deer, hanging - gutting, capeing a head for mounting, etc.
I would love to see a show that shows how an official Boone & Crockett/Pope & Young scorer actually measures a deer rack, especially some of the odd ball non-typicals.
By the way, a couple of times in the past similar show promotors have had the same request as you. Let the people on here know what your show is, and if any of the topics are covered.

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Like many others have said.I would like to see public land hunting,in area's other than the best area's of the country.Big woods for rifle,suburban archery hunts.Having kids or young people participate or families to show the multi generational aspects (tradition).
A show at a big woods deer camp,for instance.A show where a hunter is tracking.Variety while keeping it real.So much that is on television myself and many others cannot relate to.Tightly managed property with no hunting pressure with bucks that a hunter has watched grow from the time they had their first set of horns to their current prime age of 51/2 to 71/2 while saying I would like to shoot him but he has a busted G2 and would only score 168 makes me want to throw up.
Show the challenge of hunting not the farming.Thanks for asking our opinions and good luck to you!

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-a show that shows a hunter actually excited about his kill instead of a flat response of "what a beautiful buck".

-a show that doesnt advertise a particular bait or outfitter all throughout the segment.

-I want to see some public land hunting.

-shoot a doe for once and not just for management reasons.

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I like this idea!

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x2 That would be cool.... It just needs to be a show that the average hunter can relate to not just someone who hunts as a business on tv

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I would like to see from the shot to the blood trail and the finding of the deer with its tongue hanging out. Show the blood trail. I want it to be kept real. I dont want to see the hunter laughing after the shot.

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I commented earlier on this post but I want to add to it.

I'd like to see more people hunting on these shows that make this sport their passion instead of a job. Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with getting paid to hunt and I would do it in the blink of an eye, but the problem I see is that most of them it is just that.... a job. You need some hunters who have an actual passion for this sport, and who can apreciate the outdoors more than the ones on tv now. Hire some hunters and pay them just enough to survive and pay their way into hunts and not offer them these huge contracts and then you'll have the people that obsess about hunting and do it out of passion and not out of money. Thats the people I would rather see on tv, people who I can relate with instead of people that pass up on a 110 class dear because its big enough. I love seeing monster bucks but only when it was hunted by fair chase. When the show starts out with the hunters arriving at their lodge I usually lose interest because I can't relate and it does nothing for me. I want to see people that hunt for meat sometimes instead of just for trophies. I wanna see people hunting to put food on the table whether itsa 180 class buck or a 100lb spike. That show "Dream Season" got my attention when they first announced it but once I saw the first episode I changed the channel once I realized that the people on their weren't average joes, they were people who like all the other people tv only shoot huge deer and that turned me off.

Do a show like "Road Trips" but instead of sending your guys to outfitters all over the country, send them to public land all over the country and give them a week to read the map, scout the area and hunt for public land animals. It's public land so you can't hold out for a 180 class dear so you take what you can. You wanna film a show about a hunt in Iowa fine, but make it a Iowa public land hunt.

I think another good idea would be to surprise a dad some where with a father/son hunt. Every dad that hunts loves to take their son or daughter to the woods with them. If your gonna do some outfitter show then send a father/son or father/daughter team to the outfitter. Give the average person the chance to take a big buck and film it.

I wouldn't go as far as this but bring the TK and Mike stuff back. Not the stupid comedy that they did but take the fact that they had fun hunting and put that into your show. Those guys were some straight idiots but they had fun doing what they did and in all honesty they made a killing with their videos. Not only did they draw in the fan base but they had fun an ultimately thats what hunting is about.... the enjoyment you get out of it.

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Hunting for the average guy, you know, stuck hunting public land, which in my case paid off well this year for me, 141" 9 pt. But lots of work in the process. Show real scerenerios, set-up, wind, equipment is a must. Look us up Shy Flats Antler Militia, we know public land hunting...

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I absolutely love deer hunting and enjoy watching it, but TV is flooded with deer hunting shows. I like the idea about having public land hunts and even the "road trips" idea done on public land.This one is also a good idea:

I envision it like this. Michael Wadell or (insert your favorite hunter) comes up to me at my gun range prior to season and says he wants to film a hunt with me. (this is all caught on film of course)We would use the land i was going to hunt be it private or public. We would have pieces on how we scouted it, how we decided where to set the stands or blinds. and then film away.

Personally, I would like to see more small game hunts and more of the animals that don't really have the trophy status. Hunting rabbits and squirrels both with dogs. I'd also like to see some wild hog hunts. Not shooting them under a feeder, but actually hunting them in big woods.Maybe even running them with some bay dogs. I guess what i'm saying is that I'd like to see more of a variety hunting show. Something to get away from just deer, elk, turkey, bear, caribou, moose. It almost seems like that's all you see in more than 90% of the shows out there.

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I think the idea about the "Average Joe" type hunt would be pretty cool. Try and find some different guys from around the country from all walks of life and hunt with them and show how the regular guy hunts. One thing I have never seen on a show is them doing deer drives,which is how almost everyone gun hunts where i live. The kind of hunt where one of the guys posting could shoot 4 or 5 deer in a drive.(party hunting is legal here during the gun seasons. You can put other peoples tags on the deer you shoot as long as you are hunting with them at the time.) Or just have a show that shows how a guy can do a hunt on a tight budget out of his home state. From the drawing the tag process to deciding how to find and hunt public land and then at the end of the episode have the total cost of the hunt broke down in a list (cost of licenses,gas,food,hotels ect.) to show how a guy can have his dream hunt on his own without hunting with guides or going to some kind of game ranch.

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How about a reality show where you pick a dozen states and go into our hunting camps around America not lodges or ranches while hunting w/ the real deer hunters that ingrain tradition with real life situations.

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Something from Northern New England.
All the shows consist of everywhere else, let's see if you have what it takes to succeed
I can set you up into some decent areas, the rests up to you!
200+ lb bucks roam these woods, no food plots, no houses, no highways, just hunting the elusive whitetail buck plain and simple.

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I would like to see a variety of things.

Everyones ideas of the average hunter on the average plot of land(public or private)would be nice. Show different states off the beaten path. everyone has seen Iowa, Illonois, Kansas, Mizzou, Wisc, Canada. Alot the guys on here seem to want people to hunt public, go ahead try, also small farms. I live in northern VA and to find a big lot you got to go for a long drive. Most of the places i hunt are in the suburbs and are less then 5acres(like to see a camera man, and a pro hunter try that)

Another idea, which might take a while, is go to an offbeat state, that has trophy cabability and show one farm, and over the next three years show hunting on this farm under stict management and show the improvements. I hunt in VA primarily and i get tired of hearing that there is no point in managing the deer on our property. Im ona large lease and half the guys want to and the other half think there is now way we can grow large bucks even though the neighboring club is under management rules and is doing well, even helping us out. Show those improvements, might help change some peoples thoughts on the subject.

Another idea is to show all the close calls. I hunt some pretty good deer, but 9 times out of 10, i have close calls with the buck(s) im after before i connect. I primarly bow hunt, so 5 yards one way or another can give you a shot or leave you with a broken heart. I always hear, "oh we have been after this guy for ever", and the only thing they show is game cam pics. Show the deer coming in and getting lucking and walking another trail, or be like the Drury bros and show how much you miss, those guys seem to miss all the time, but at least they show it. Show the deer busting you in the stand. These are things that happen in the woods! Show it!!

Show the science behind the stand set up, a lot of guys just see a trail and pick a tree. If you want to help the average hunter, show and tell why the stand is in this particular tree at that particular location.

And these outfitter shows drive me nuts! I have beenwith outfitters before, and if i dont have a camera crew behind me you can bet your butt that really good lease they have i will never see. Instead ill be over there hunting that other lease with all the other guys in camp seeing scrubs all day. To many people think that these outfitters have the best spots on the planet and there going to drop thousands of dollars and go hunt the same stand Bill Jordon sits in. Thats why i got to give Lee & Tiffany props, when it comes to whitetails, they seem to never use outfitters, at least there honest, and not giving people a false sense of hope that they going to get those bucks too. they hunt there private managed farms and they say it loud and clear.

Good luck with your show, I hope you mix up from the rest of them. Let us know what show it is, cause if you make some changes suggested on here im sure the guys on here will watch.

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Ideal Hunting Show:

Save the product endorsements forcommercial time.
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Save the funny stuff we don't need to be entertained.
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Keep it real.
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Make it atainable, back it up with a good website full of information.
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Keep it simple, it does not need to be a dream hunt most of us have a budget.
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Show an aerial photo of the land...and where the stand you're using is at. Don't just tell us there's "a pine thicket over that'a'way"....or a "picked corn field behind the thicket we're in." Show us the whole setup.


Don't hunt with the significant other. As soon as I see the guy playing with the girl's hair IN STAND....it's time to change the channel. Hunt, don't flirt.

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one other thing, please dont play goofy music when the deer are walking or when you are about to shoot, is there music playing when you are hunting, well if there is there shouldnt be...

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First I want to address a couple comments made;
1. One guy said don't come to Missouri, and I see he is from Missouri. Why?
2. Several people have talked highly about other shows and how they do a good job talking about how they are hunting on their private managed ground, etc... Don't be fooled by that, I recently was ask to do a show on a large high fence deer hunting operation. I did except and when I got there they were telling me about all the people that hunt there year to year. I mean "TV SHOW" People. So I ask them what they wanted from me and they said a show about our operation to sell to hunters. As I am looking at pictures of probably some of the top 10 hunting show HOST setting behind there huge buck shot at this operation. I said why don't I ever see these guys hunting here, he said you do, but they just say we are "hunting in IA." or "were up here in IL hunting on a friends private property". He said but I want you to say you are here to help promote my business. I said what do you get from those other guys, he said referals to some of there big money hunting friends. So again DONT BE FOOLED BY WHAT YOU SEE.

Back to the main topic, I appreciate all comments and had already considered mainy of these ideas. I plan to do something but you have to remember its a TV, which takes time and money to produce. So I'd like to now know would average hunters be willing to put there money where there mouth is and do something completely different to get the show they really want. I'm talking about a show completely sponsored by "Viewers". For example a viewer joins and pays $10.00 per month. He gets to add input to the shows content, possible chance to hunt with show host, you could suggest 3 products you are thinking of buying and I would buy them and try them on air in rough hard conditions. Then share how they really stood up. Basically put the viewer in control. What do you think any takers. Oh, maybe a monthly magazine highlighting items gone over on the last month show so you have all info in writing, etc...

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I would love to see a show where the host hunts on property that isn't 5000 acres of pristine private managed land where you have to pay 5000 to shoot a 130-140 class buck. I want to see the host go through a progression of shows with a wide variety of land and situations they hunt on. I want him to hunt a 100 acre or less farm during rifle season and let the viewer hear the orange army shooting away on the property over the hill. Or explain that this property owner is trying to shoot mature deer and after the show the host passes on 1.5, 2.5 year old deer and will shoot a doe to finish the show. I would also like to see the host field dress and hang the deer. You never see what happens to the deer after the shot unless they show their mount. Get in their and give us your method of field dressing and butchering a deer. We are all hunters who are watching the show I'm sure we can take a little guts and blood. Give us reasons why you chose the spot you chose. Is it because it's a pinch point between heavy cover and a food source? Is it a travel corridor? Does it lead to a mast of acorns? Is it because their is a strong NW wind and this is the only stand that would work. Okay I'm sure that is a start but I do like this discussion!

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First I want to address a couple comments made;
1. One guy said don't come to Missouri, and I see he is from Missouri. Why?
2. Several people have talked highly about other shows and how they do a good job talking about how they are hunting on their private managed ground, etc... Don't be fooled by that, I recently was ask to do a show on a large high fence deer hunting operation. I did except and when I got there they were telling me about all the people that hunt there year to year. I mean "TV SHOW" People. So I ask them what they wanted from me and they said a show about our operation to sell to hunters. As I am looking at pictures of probably some of the top 10 hunting show HOST setting behind there huge buck shot at this operation. I said why don't I ever see these guys hunting here, he said you do, but they just say we are "hunting in IA." or "were up here in IL hunting on a friends private property". He said but I want you to say you are here to help promote my business. I said what do you get from those other guys, he said referals to some of there big money hunting friends. So again DONT BE FOOLED BY WHAT YOU SEE.

Back to the main topic, I appreciate all comments and had already considered mainy of these ideas. I plan to do something but you have to remember its a TV, which takes time and money to produce. So I'd like to now know would average hunters be willing to put there money where there mouth is and do something completely different to get the show they really want. I'm talking about a show completely sponsored by "Viewers". For example a viewer joins and pays $10.00 per month. He gets to add input to the shows content, possible chance to hunt with show host, you could suggest 3 products you are thinking of buying and I would buy them and try them on air in rough hard conditions. Then share how they really stood up. Basically put the viewer in control. What do you think any takers. Oh, maybe a monthly magazine highlighting items gone over on the last month show so you have all info in writing, etc...

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I would do that. Sounds kool and different!

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Any other idea's on this. I will probably just keep posting this over and over until I know everyone has really read it and understands that I want to make a show for the "hunter".

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I think Danny D is on track with his suggestion. It would put the show in the realm of reality TV, but picking a couple of locals, scouting the land both physically and with maps, and then filling your tag would be very interesting and potentially informative. This is how we did it and how you (the hunter) can do it too type of thing.

My dislike of most of the current shows is the lack of "over the shoulder" kill shots. The staged camera shots are obvious. No cameraman in his right mind would be out in front of the hunter when he shoots. Plus when tracking a lot of times the camera is already at the kill waiting for the hunters to arrive and state "there he is!" like they just found it. Why not just track it together? We're not stupid. Just show the facts of the matter.

You are welcome to come hunt my private land in Macoupin County Illinois!

Bob R.

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I do have an un-used Ill. Bow tag? I'd love to start the new season out right with a hunt like this. Should we talk more about me coming there???

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I like Danny D's idea as well. I hunt about 40-50 acres. two different spots. I do some food plot work, not high dollar mixes pre-packaged mixes. Plant all sorts of trees, I do it with a 1940's ford 9n I got running. Mow trails, hang stands/scout in summer, shot a few squirrels in aug/sept then enjoy deer-camp atmosphere during season. Show the encounters, the misses, do it over the shoulder. I don't do all the stuff on my land just because I want to shot a deer, I do it to be outdoors, don't sit around a desk and talk about the hunt. (I don't know the name of that show but i can't stand it) I don't mind couples, or humor. Show hunting show that shines a light on conservation and tradition, not kills and products. my opinion

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Just don't be fake. Don't make it out as if the outfitter is a miracle worker. Don't make the gear used be the only reason the animal was harvested.

Other than that, have fun. If the people in the video are genuinely having fun and that translates thru to the viewer without coming across as put on, that is a good show.

I don't care where you hunt(except maybe Texas, that usually bores me) but I know you have to put kills on video so all these suggestions about "real" world public land type stuff and places with fewer deer densities just ain't a good business practice. And that's ok. I don't know why so many knock it. Hunt where you need to in order to get the footage you need. No one would repeatedly watch a show that just showed some guys wandering around the woods or sitting there seeing nothing.