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this is disusting and its ruing the good name of hunters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBpDcjz4hYY&channel=samstewardson

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OMG, that is terrible.

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We cannot be at fault for others lack of humanity. We can only go on as righteous as we are and do what we know is right. Yes they might give hunters a bad name, but there are more "good" hunters than bad. Good always outweighs bad always. They will get what is coming to them, whether its spoiled meat or an animal gets its own revenge. Either way, continue to do what you do and do not worry about them. They will grow up in due time and give back to mother nature at some point whether they are being used as pure fertilizer or they do it on their own.

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Some of the things I see concerning hunting on Youtube is disgusting. Guys shoot 3 deer running at 100 yards with Buckshot, shooting pheasant on the ground, drinking in the blind. No wonder some people think hunting is bad. It just takes one bad apple like these morons posting videos and it hurts us hunters.

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True but that should only make you want to do things better. Dont show weakness when it comes to them and drop down to their status and rip them to shreds for doing what they do. They KNOW its wrong, now why they do it, I dont have the answer.

If we didnt have bad "hunters"... why in the world would good hunters want to work so hard to keep a good name? They wouldnt. Not only being good do you have to strive to be the best you can be while obeying state laws, your own laws, and land laws but you have to strive to better the name of all hunters in which the "duds" brought down.

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If you noticed, right at the start of that clip, those pigs were released from a wire pen. No metter how you look at it, this is not hunting !! They were shooting and killing, and doing a poor job of even that. If i'm not mistaken, those also appear to be domestic pigs.

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agreed

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I agree that is not hunting and it should not be called hunting.

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thats disgusting

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While trapping and disposing of wild hogs is VERY necessary, shooting them with shotguns and filming it is not. We have a huge feral pig population and they are only getting worse. Hunting alone does not keep their numbers down and sometimes trapping them and shooting them is necessary. I dont like doing it and dont call it hunting but it has to be done. I am not defending these people in the video, I think they are pretty sick as well, just defending trapping pigs and the real purpose of it.

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This is very inhumane and is considered animal cruelty, not hunting.

Spud

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i know wat u mean as u can probably tell they were doing it for the sport

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those are the type of people give hunters a bad name. where is the sport in that?

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On top of being dumb a$$'s for even filming their stupidity, they are some piss poor shots...

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Could the non-hunting public see that as hunting? I don't believe that anyone, whether they were a hunter or not, would classify that as hunting. If they were disposing af the animals we all know that there are much more efficient ways (they were in the pen already). What that video shows is stupidity at the highest level.

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I personally think that there are more slob hunters out there then good ethical hunters... Hell the outdoor channel is starting to get sloppy with cheese !@#$ hunters

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i dont see how this reflect on hunting. these people are not huntering. i also do not see why these folks can't gun down their own pigs. you may not like it, and it may not be what you would do! but it doesn't mean these folks don't can't gun down their own hogs. they all seemed like they died faster than they would in the wild. i bet the hogs died faster than a human did if they were attacked by a grizzly! i personally would never do this. but what they do doesn't reflect on my charactor. so its not skin off my nose. what do i care?

what do i care what some left wing baby killing anti hunter thinks about hunting. liberals want to save the whales but kill the babies!

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In the eyes of the non-hunting public they would view this as "typical" hunting by hunters. All they see are guns, which are bad in their eyes, and wildlife being shot. Even though this is a culling operation, a poorly managed operation, by filming this it will cast a dark cloud over the sport of hunting even though it was not hunting. People are now "forced" to view a kill scene. This can be disturbing to some people.

As sportsmen we should be conserned about this type of stuff and we should care what these people think. Face it, there are more non-hunters than hunters in this country. More non-hunters vote and hold political office than hunters. While it would be bad for wildlife management and the conservation movement to end hunting, it could happen if the majority of the non-hunters think this is what happens when sportsmen take to the woods to enjoy their favorite past-time.

They see this is a reflection of your character. They do not see you as minnesotaminutemen who is a pillar of the community. They see you as unsafe, careless, crule & wasteful of our most valuable natural resource, because you carry a gun and wear camo or blaze orange. To them you are no different than the guys in the video.

As sportsmen we need to become involved and take an active role in educating others about the role of hunting in wildlife management and conservation. We should be involved with the community and work with non-hunters and anti-hunters to better manage our resources. If we do not get involved now, we will be on the outside looking in with no say in the matter. We will have no control over our future.

That is why I care.

That is why we all should care about how other see us.

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thats really terrible. cant believe someone would film that let alone post if for public viewing

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Unbelievable they would film that, let alone post it on the net

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the fate of hunting is not in the hands of the antis! it is in ours. they hate hunting as it is and already have their minds made up! they all ready are going to do everything they can to try to ban it.

booo hooo hooo some hogs where shot up! isn't going to change anyones political opinion.

bowing down to the antis is not going to get them to like us.

actually i dont really think its too bad.

when i shoot ducks they suffer a little bit until i can get to them, to snap the neck. not ever animal that is shot dies right away. and i m ok with that. i try my best to make every animal i take suffer minimum as possible, but welcome to the woods. ever hear a fawn scream when a pack of coyotes tears it to pieces?

but i can here the liberals now, oh...poor deer.....it never had a chance to grow up and be an individual....booo hoooo!!!

actually i rather enjoyed that video!!!! we need to see what really goes on, instead of creating this artifical reality in are minds. hunting is not a sport its serious business. we kill animals, and we eat them. we respect them, and we are ethical, but we kill animals, and like it!

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in a republic the rights of the people shall not be infringed. i have the right to bear arms and hunt! no liberal is going to take that from me. this is not a democracy where majority rules!! this is a republic. were the rights of the people are protected for the government(other people!).

in the state constitutions almost all of them say you have the right to hunt. and under the 9 amendment that right is protected as well. rights are not given by the generousity of the state but by the hand of GOD!!!

i am not concerned with what the antis think. but if you think that trying to kiss their @$$ is going to make them stop their assault on gun ownership and the right to hunt. think again!!!!!

so we should do everything the antis tell us or else they will takeour hunting rights away? ok you go obey the moveon.org environmental wackos and try to make them happy. i on the other hand am not going to put on a show and pretend i feel bad for animals(and some rare plants!)

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allright my point was when i posted this was that these guys suck like **** at shooting and they arent sportsman and theyjust did that for fun they could have more humanely put a shot to the head before they let them go that was my point i just thought i would share the vid

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and your absoulutely right!!!! no way is this acceptable. i am not condoning it one bit. i know that any true hunter would never do anything like this to an animal.

but the antis think regular hunting is so bad, and constantly post on youtube and the like about how we should all be tortured and killed for huntin' animals! the antis think animals are more important than humans!

i just hate it when i hear hunters are apoligizing for stupid people like this!!

as if antis should even talk, you should see what they do to animals.
you want to talk sick, people here they are!!!
check this out:

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petasdirtysecret.cfm

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I agree..
THIS IS LIVESTOCK SLAUGHTER..
Probably no different than the way chicken cows etc get slaughtewred in alot of places.
I'm not an activist in anyway shape or form.
I don't think this would fall under any hunting practice, moral, ehtical,legal or otherwise..

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I agree that the fate of hunting is in our hands. I am worried and concerned about our representation. I have seen fewer and fewer sportsmen willing to stand up and defend our rights as hunters. While the antis and the non-hunters have increased their presence.

A good example of this is yesterday a local news station did a story about a county park that has scheduled dates for Canada goose hunts. Unfortunately, all they had were the people protesting the hunt. The news gave them time to speak their B.S., but did not offer a reponse to interview from a hunter or the PGC.

I have been to public meetings to discuss deer management options and was unable to get on the program to speak because all the time was taken up by those opposed to the management project and eventually found out that the only people there to educate the public about the need for the program were me and the Agency representatives.

That is what concerns me. We are under-represented and outnumbered. Far too many of our fellow sportsmen are sticking their head in the sand and avoiding the issues and problems. Very few are willing to be vocal, like yourself, when it comes to defending our rights as sportsmen.

I also think I may have been misunderstood about working with the non-hunters and antis. I am not saying we need to bow down to them and give in. That is the furthest thing from what I believe. I get frustrated just listening to them. So that is why we need to be involved in the decision process and represent our side. Educate and inform them about hunting and its role in management. Help form the management plans so they are successful and not failures. This is what I mean when I say work with them. They are going to be present and involved in the process and we need to be there to balance the system.

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That is probably one of the sickest things ive seen. Those people give us all a bad name.
What is the point? If they wanted to destroy them, why didnt they just do it in a quick way. Dont make it some sick amusement.

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ok i gotcha i gess i misunderstund your post i agree

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Sir, you contradicted your own statements. One time you're saying you enjoyed it and we need to see what "reallly" goes on, then you're saying a real hunter would never do anything like this to an animal. Sounds to me like you need to quit bashing all "anti-hunting liberals" together and get your own opinions in line.

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its not that i enjoyed the video's content, but rather the fact that it was brought to my attention for review. it is the censorship of animals being shot that concerns me. i enjoyed the video because it exposed the truth about the peta wackos and what they are about.

and another thing is maybe these people believed in "fair chase"! if they were executed in the cage everyone would be crying boo hoo! if i was one of those pigs i would rather be gunned down making a dash for freedom, rather than being snuffed off in a pen!

what world do you guys live in? the last time i checked not everyone is a perfect shot, not every animal dies right away when hunting. it also seems like the lattest trend these days is "fair chase", isnt that what these people did? sounds to me like this whole thing happened because the peta crowd wants fair chase. and these guys gave peta exactly what it wanted, and they still cried boo hoo.

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cant i enjoy the video even if i don't condone it? i like to watch a good horror movie everynow and then, i enjoythe moviebut i dont condone murder and the like!


but let me clear that up for you. i enjoyed watching the clip, but i would not be interested in doing anything like that myself!

how is that being a hypocrite?

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and i will continue to bash anti liberal hunters!

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good deal. But I'd be careful bashing the "anti liberal hunters" because that would tend to be the conservative Republican hunters which make up the majority of this site ;)

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i haTE horro movies they freak me out

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In no way shape or form is that hunting, so any right minded person wouldn't even catagorize it as such. It is simply shooting, and not very good shooting at that. There are much cleaner quicker ways to dispatch problem animals, a 22mag behind the ear, etc... And no wasted meat. If no meat was wanted, then a larger bore rifle or shotgun while they were still caged would be quicker and less inhumane. Just idiots being idiots, and while I never cast the first stone, I also don't refrane from throwing stones when needed.

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That was the grossest display of disrespect of amimals that i have ever seen. I mean come on it is obvious they intended to slaughter the pigs so why not point blank to the head and get it over with. I have no problem with people who slaughter their farm animals for food. but it has to be quick and easy. that is the least you can do for the animal that is going to feed you.

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i meantto sayanti hunting Liberals. sorry bout that. yea i suppose one would catch hell on this site bashing conservative hunters! and rightly so!

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does anyone think that they might have let them out to make it like a "fair chase" kind of thing? or do you think they just wanted to shoot them up on the run?

i also wonder if they indeed intended on eating them, or if they were just going to leave them to rot.

to bad they didn't make an atempt to explain themselves.

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did anybody stop and think that maybe the anti's put this on the web ?? just to make us look bad ??

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That is sick. Wonder how they would like it if they were caged and shot while trying to escape. At least I did hear one say to put them out of misery.