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Have you ever come across poachers or a poaching scene and what did you do?

My 2 experiences are...
#1 - It was about 20 years ago. We where trying to find a new duck swamp a land owner gave us the location to.
Well we ended up missing the land owners swamp by mistake (unknowly) and hit the neighbors swamp a few hundred yards away.
Man - o - man, it was the best duck spot that I had ever seen, dozens upon dozens of ducks. It was soooo gooood that we ran out of shells (without many ducks to show for it), so we decided to go back to camp to reload and go back latter in the day, just before dusk. We hunted it again, but the whole swamp this time, not just the edge that we originally walked into when we ran out of shells. We all figured out why the ducks where @ this swamp, real quick... We made it towards the other side of the swamp and found an access road we had seen. We figured out that we missed the original swamp when we came across the access road. Right @ the edge of the road there was CORN and lots of it. The neighbor had been baiting, so we called the game warden the next day, told him the story and they put a sting together and busted him big time.

#2) I was deer hunting in the great white north, in a very reclusive spot, and for the first time with a very, very successful hunter friend. Of course after this happened he did not remain a friend! We split up to hit this ridge and try pushing deer toward each other and BANG! I walk over to him, we where a few hundred yards apart, and there was a dead Doe and then he asks me if I wanted to tag her. Of course I tell him no, and that I can shoot my own deer. He proceeds to dress her and hang her in a tree, so the coyotes can't get her while we push for the third guy in our group. I asked him if he needed a pen to fill his tag out and he says he doesn't tag Does. He said he would find someone in town to tag the Doe and not to worry about it. I quickly figured out why he has over a dozen 200+ lb deer with huge racks on his wall. Simply put he has no laws to follow like the rest of us. I neve talked to the sleeze bag again and informed the game wardens to watch him carefully.

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i found a freshly poached deer at 10pm along the side of the road...it still had steam coming off of it! anyways i called the game warden office and absolutly nothing was done about it!

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I found three dead bucks thrown over a ledge right off the road with their antlers cut off at the base. They weren't even that big, they were dinks. I wanted to puke.

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Don't know if they were poached or not, but I found a pile of 4 deer carcasses. 3 were bucks with the antlers cut off and the other was a doe.

They had all been field dressed, but weren't tagged and no meat had been removed.

It was either poaching or just wasteful slaughter. Either way it p*ssed me off!

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And justhow have any of these previous posts helped us as hunters ? Even in a small way?Please "think",then think again,thenpost.

If you feel so please explain the benefits to those of us that enjoy huntingit so?

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I was hunting on the edge of my aunts cornfield 2 years ago and i had a video camera and a nice buck was coming across the field and a bang they shot it, I quickly called my uncle up and he went and got there license plate numbers and then they drove off fast so then we contacted the game warden and i showed him the video and they busted him...

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Dang bawanajim, having a bad day? I guess the posts I read seemed interesting to me and have more to do with the topic than your reply?

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There's a poacher in my county who we all hate. I just thought I'd tell you a couple of things that he's done.

1. Quite a few years back, my dad was hunting on a friends property and the poacher was illegally hunting on the same ground. Well it was deer season and my dad shot one of the biggest bucks in the county at that time. Well the idiot comes up to my dad and offers to carry it to my dads truck as my dad gets packed up.My dad took him up to the house, the owner said he wasn't EVER allowed to hunt there, so my dad called the game warden, Mike, and sadly, he got there 3 minutes to late. =[

2. Just 2 years ago I was on my first turkey hunt on the same property as the first incedent with the poacher. My dad and I were sitting against a tree deep in the woods waiting for a turkey and fianlly after a morning of waiting, we heard two. One real turkey and the retarded poacher using a diaphram. He shot it. My dad, after we were done, saw him, walked up to him, (yet again, he was there without a tag, and he was there without permission. It wasn't even the right sex.) spun him around, slapped him, knocked him to the ground, and called the game warrden. This time, he got there on time and busted him with jail and a fine. He didn't mind the slappage and knocking to the ground. He was just glad that hecaught him. at least I got a BIGGER turkey next season. =]

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I kept finding Sorel-prints in nearly every set of tracks I found one snowy elk season. Giving it up and heading for another spot I hunt, I came across what I thought were bear tracks around a deer carcass. As I got closer, I realized they were not bear tracks but human tracks, the carcass was still warm, and the head was missing (checking the deer over, the remainder of the anatomy indicated it was a buck deer - not in season, and now obviously poached). Plugged the location into my GPS and headed for the truck and bag phone (so this had to have been quite a few years ago). Along the way, caught some movement behind me, realized I was being followed. When the guy was close enough to identify as another hunter, I felt threatened enough to slip the safety off my own rifle - he was carrying his at the ready as well. So, we're both standing there, he asks me if I'd seen any elk that morning. Nope, just a dead deer, I said. To my surprise, he said he'd just come across a cow, a spike, and a bull without antlers all dead just above where I'd logged the dead buck into my GPS. He thought I might have shot the elk. Ha! I thought he'd shot the deer. We were both heading back to our trucks to make a report when we stumbled into each other.

Had an intern working for me the next year who had access to all the poaching reports filed. Had him follow up on my report - which he found, along with the other guy's, and notes to the effect that no G&F person was available to investigate, so nothing was done. Probably nothing that COULD have been done, I'm sure the perpetrators were long gone by that time.

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well i guess its not really called poaching even though i belive it is. Where i come from the natives are allowed to hunt year round, wellanyways all the time during the summer we come across where they have found a herd of elk and have shot 4-5 of them took their rear ends and left everything else there...but since its their legal right there is nothing we can do about it

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Don't read it is all I'll say about your comment.
I didn't know it was for everyone in this forum to educate you "bawanajim".
You must have been hard up to read thugh this many posts before typing, thanks for your input and I'll check with you before posting "bawanajim". Sound more like PMS than anything?
Let's start a post on all the comments like yours, would that be ok "bawanajim"

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I might have commented on your thread a little more positively if you didn't come across as a ......................
And thanks for getting the spelling of my name right all three times,that aloneis one of the few forms of correct spelling and grammar in your whole post.;)

"pochers" That one alone is priceless.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't that make you a poacher. You had permission to hunt some property but crossed the line and knew it. Then you had the audacity to go back even though you didn't have permission. Then you are going to call the game warden about someone putting corn out when you were clearly breaking the law? That's funny. I don't know if was legal where you were POACHING, but maybe the corn was for deer. Guess what, If you would have got caught, you would have been ticketed for trespassing, duck hunting over bait, probably shooting too many ducks, and shooting before or after legal hours. If I am wrong about all this, then I apologize.

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Unfortunately I happened to have been busy and wasn't paying attention to my typing. It's called a typo. And I will admit there were a few, So please excuse me Mr. Grammer.

I happen to own 2 successful businesses and as far as education I deal with inadequate people every day whom seem to have an answer for everything, much like yourself. Although I am not perfect I usually fix ignorant peoples mistakes on a daily basis from fortune 500 companies. Get out of your box, sir. It's called getting along with everyone and finding solutions instead of causing them.

XOXO

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In NH, it is perfectly legal to go onto unposted property.
We only new this wasn't the land owners property, after the second encounter to this swamp, when we found the neighbor baiting.
So that would be a no to poaching. I appologize if I didn't get my point across effectively.
Just be careful someone above might accuse you of being uneducated for misreading or mistyping.
That's a joke from the previous post, in case dwanajam didn't get it.

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So starting a misspelled thread about the worst of things hunters do is your idea of getting along and finding solutions.;) I see you've found the spell checker,good .Now if you got back to your stellar first post and click on edit you can fix that there ignorant error on "pochers"

Hows that for solutions ?

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Go ahead ya know you want to...................













the little edit button with the pencil.

you are only two clicksaway............ you can do it.

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This is fun!
By the way...
I did pick up on your punkshuation, in case u (you) missed it.

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Next thing you know they'll let you use that sharpner on the back of the box.

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Your good, man, and I didn't think you had much of a personality, by your comments.
Touch' (2shay)

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Touche"

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Touche'

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Its all in the name of fun,I never take anythingwriten on here any different than something thats been writen in a phone both.I smile at them all.;)

I have to go now, Have a great week, Jim

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Chow, sir!
Shoot straight.

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Fixed my typo's.
Sorry, I'll take my time in the future.

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YOU WERE THE ONE POACHING. Then you turn around and knowlingly go back trepassing with a firearm to shoot a baited pond.Then turn this other other guy in after you shot over his corn.... Your some piece of work

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[quote]ORIGINAL: bryant1

[quote]ORIGINAL: superstrutter

If you read through the whole post you will see I tried to fix any confusion by editing it.

I think your grabbing old info, before the fix.

I will state while I'm replying to you that I walked into what I thought was the land owners swamp, unknowingly.
We figured this out, when we walked thoughout the whole swamp and @ this point is when we found the corn and access road leading to the neighbors house.

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One more time to help the original poster out. He thought he was at his hunting spot were he had permission, left came back a second timestill thinking it was the place he had permission to hunt. As soon as he realized it wasnot the place he had permission he promptly left and reported the illegal baiting he found.

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i know how you feel they just didnt poach they also stole my burlap

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EXACTLY, what he said!

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Here in Ontario Canada our GW,s are very few do to the lack of money to pay them and to put gas in their patrol cars trucks.The last warden I seen was 4yrs ago and the other two I have seen were on the news about a petting zoo that was not providing proper care and these 2 were so big that if they had to chase any one it would take them for ever to get out of their cars.I was told by a landowner it took 2 hrs for someone to respond to a poacher . They never did catch the guy the warden had to call the police to get directions to the poachers place thats enough time for him to hide what ever else ware 7 half hrs in total.

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I have a few sad stories on this subject
1. i went walking around the property adjacent to mine and found buck after buck 8 in total that had their racks capped off and left to rot. they looked to be between 1 and 3 years just lying there.
2. an old man from in town hammered a mega twelve opening day of shotgun. he went back to find someone to help him drag the deer out (he wouldn't have made it out of the feild doing it himself)when he reutrned two hours later the whole head was gone.
3. opening week of shotgun there were three ghuys with their shotguns who encirceledmy neighbors property to push the swamp out towards their buddies in the field.

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I had the fortune of being the son of a game warden an spent many summer days on the back roads and in the woods with my Dad as he did his job.
But he is gone now an i am 51 all that is left is memories an some wonderful stories of hunters dressed in woolrich shirts an hats long before the days of camo an graphite fishing rods. I have never had the pleasure of meeting any hunter or fisherman that at some point in their life has not broken a game law (intended or not) myself included the fact is if a violation is commited taking game no matter how minor the violation is it is poaching.

When your heart is pounding adrenaline is at 90+ that big buck is just about to become a story of the one that got away an he crossed the road to the pond you duck hunt or jumped the fence an is on your buddys place you got a clean shot an dump him in his tracks. He will be hanging on the wall soon But you may have broken a law these kind of things play out every year to some of the best hunters out their. I only look at the hunter an what he did some just make a mistake wile others take from us all. Asfor the hunter that found the baited duck pond he did the right thing an reported it he may have commited a violation or not But he helped to put a stop to a guy that is taking from us all. one baited pond can ruin the duck hunting for a few miles around that pond (I applaud him for what he did)

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Poaching is a way overused term. Kind of like calling it a DUI if someone is caught speeding with alcohol on their breath. The only problem with calling every guy that accidentally goes one dove over his limit a poacher is that it kind of weakens the term when you use it in reference to the really bad guys.

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i don't think it is a overused termit is a misunderstood term people have it ingained in their head that a poacher is a person out killing countless deerleave the meattake horns or antlers ect'.Not so poaching means (other than lawful means of taking)

years back my cousin shot a deer that were running with 4 or 5 others in the woods he shot fast an only had a sec to shoot after looking at the deer
it turned out to be a nub buck his ticket poaching (hunting deer out of season) did that make him a bad person no but it was still poaching he still had to say i got a ticket for poaching shooting a antlerless deer in antler only season

thetrue meaning of the word has been lost an coinedto fit a certian type of hunter used in slang ie, he's a poacher an looked down on

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Like it or not, ignorance is no excuse. Fact of the matter is that you were poaching, though unknowingly. You were hunting over a baited swamp, thats illegal. That being said, IMO you still did the right thing. Out of curiosity how would you have felt if the warden had given you a ticket also? Would you have still been glad you called? I still would have, but truth be told, I would not have been so eager to call the next time.

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If he is shooting things and is not sure what they are, he is the worst kind of poacher. He is dangerous! "Oh, I only had a second to react so I shot before I saw the guy standing behind what looked like a buck running through the woods" Shame on him, I hope the ticket was SEVERE and that it made him learn a valueable lesson that he really should have learned before he stepped into the field with a gun.

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you missed the point

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I think that the meaning of poaching has been changed and watered down. It meant something pretty specific during the Middle Ages when it was coined. When i was growing up, you didn't hear it used in reference to somebody that didn't have their gun case zipped completely shut or who forgot to keep their legal limit of rabbits separate from everyone else's in the back of the truck. When you go tossing a term like that around and applying it to everyone, then folks may be less inclined to take it seriously.

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Actually I think you missed the point. I got your point, but it was wrong. Doing crap like that DOES make your cousin a bad guy. I stand by saying anyone shooting at things they havent identified is the worst kind of poacher that is. Just because he is your cousin, doesn't mean he isn't an idiot that shouldn't have been in the woods. And still shouldn't be if that experience didn't teach him a lesson.:eek: