9MM
 

why cant a 9MM cleanly kill a deer I mean come on the indians were shooting sticks with a rock on the tip

RE: 9MM
 

Never used it with deer, but carried it while Archery, just in case a Bear made there presence.
Low and behold a bear showed and arrowed him, then he ran 25 yards and pulled out the 9MM hit him twice and never phased him.
The next week I had a .44mag.
Took a nice 8 pointer in his tracks with the bigger bore, why chance it?!!!?
Ruger super redhawk 10" barrel, iron sights, maybe a scope in the future

RE: 9MM
 

Certainly it can, with a perfect shot...So can the .22 rimfire, as has been proven by thousands of poachers ( and a few honest folks) over the last 140 years or so..

However, there are dozens of other chamberings that will kill deer more efficiently, with much LESS margin for error than the 9MM..

So what's your point..??..

RE: 9MM
 

My guess is that the point of this thread is to see how much crap can be stirred up. All these "why can't I use ??? mini caliber to kill a deer" are pointless.

RE: 9MM
 

Two totaly different types of killing. Arrows are ment to cut through vital organs to induce bleeding. Indians knew that you cut the lung they deflate and bleed. Flint and Obsidian heads are very good at this. In fact Obsidian is sharper than any steel blade.

Bullets kill in the transfer of energy. The bullet flattens to transfer the energy into the animal, creating massive shock. If the bullet passes through the vitals it can be similar to an arrow but does not cut like an arrow is intended to.

So sure a 9MM through the vitals will kill. Its range isn't going to be great but at close range sure.
However, 9MM isn't a very good man stopper. So on something tougher like a deer I wouldn't use it unless I had to. (Like to survive)

RE: 9MM
 

we have already decided that it can cleanly kill a deer. we have also decided there are much better options.

RE: 9MM
 

Modern ammo has made the 9mm(and every other cart) more effective. It'll kill a deer, sure, but your range is going to be severely limited even using a carbine. Lots better choices out there.

RE: 9MM
 

so... is it ok out to 40 yards

RE: 9MM
 

NO

RE: 9MM
 

Also illegal in many places. In Iowa, handguns can be used during shotgun season, but must be .357 or bigger and at least a 4" barrel.