what constitutes a nontypical buck
#21
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: WI
Posts: 338

For net typical score, wouldn't you have to deduct the non-typical point?
Shultzy's example of the 170 vs 180 didn't make sense. If it scored 180 non-t, with 10" of junk, wouldn't the net typical score then be 170 minus the 10" for 160?
Shultzy's example of the 170 vs 180 didn't make sense. If it scored 180 non-t, with 10" of junk, wouldn't the net typical score then be 170 minus the 10" for 160?
#23

ORIGINAL: swamp rooster
when yousee a deer that has horns going everywhere and you say s.o.b. then its a goodun..
when yousee a deer that has horns going everywhere and you say s.o.b. then its a goodun..

#24

ORIGINAL: waiting_for_a_gift
For net typical score, wouldn't you have to deduct the non-typical point?
Shultzy's example of the 170 vs 180 didn't make sense. If it scored 180 non-t, with 10" of junk, wouldn't the net typical score then be 170 minus the 10" for 160?
For net typical score, wouldn't you have to deduct the non-typical point?
Shultzy's example of the 170 vs 180 didn't make sense. If it scored 180 non-t, with 10" of junk, wouldn't the net typical score then be 170 minus the 10" for 160?
#25
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 595

I was lucky enough to kill a buck with this problem. I can't remember exact measurments but The score was like 146 as a non-typ and 118 as a typ. Something like that, anyways what I was told by the scorer was for a deer to qualify as a non-typ it has to have at least 15" of non-typ inches. Right or wrong, thats the story I got. Hope this helps.
#26
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 45

At one time there used to be a "rule-of-thumb" of 10% - meaning ifthe final score was increased by 10% if it was measured as a non-typical, then it went into the NT ranks. This, however, went by the boards long ago.
Today its up to the owner to decide where it should be entered. Personally, I prefer typicals over NTs, so if I had a rack that qualified under both standards, I'd enter it as a typical.
Today its up to the owner to decide where it should be entered. Personally, I prefer typicals over NTs, so if I had a rack that qualified under both standards, I'd enter it as a typical.
#27

Ie: I shot this buck a few years ago, he got a typical score as per usual and was hammerred pretty good in terms of net. I knew he wouldn't make B&C all time (book) either way, I just feltNT was the right placing.
FWIW I had him scored by 2 official scorers at horn show and scoring events. They both did as well, without input from me.
FWIW I had him scored by 2 official scorers at horn show and scoring events. They both did as well, without input from me.

#28

What classifies a buck as a Non-Typical is how it is scored. First off, it ( obviously) has to have a certain amount of irregular points. With the Buckmaster scoring system, there must be at least 10% of the total rack in irregular points. In all scoring systems, there is a catagory for abnormal points. In B&C for example, say you have 12 1/8" of abnormal points. You first score the rack as a " Typical", then do all the deductions as normal. When you get that score ( let's say 160), you go back and add the total amount of abnormal points, and that is your " Non-Typical" score ( 172 1/8). If your buck has a high enough score to be entered as a " Non-Typical" ( 180 BC), you can enter him in that catagory. If not, those non-typical points are now deductions from your typical score. After deducting ( 160 - 12 1/8 = 147 7/8 ), if he is still high enough to make the typical book, then he is catagorized there. In the Buckmaster Scoring system, there are NO deductions, but no " Inside Spread" credit either. Your bucks totalinches ofantler would be his score.
#29

For a buck to qualify as non-typical it needs only 1" of abnormal points. It changed to this several years ago from 15" (I think). An abnormal point is not the extra point on a 7,9,11, etc point buck. It is a point that can be a fork, drop or any point not veiwed as typical. It can come from the base, off another tine etc. It has to be at least 1" long.
The minimums are: P&Y 125 typ 155 non-typ
B&C 170 typ 195 non-typ
B&C also has modern hunter records where 160 typ and I believe 185 non-typ will qualify for one recording period.
As someone else had mentioned, I would enter the buck in the category that it fit best. Usually, 1" of abnormal points doesn't make a very good non-typ, in my eyes.
I hope this helps
The minimums are: P&Y 125 typ 155 non-typ
B&C 170 typ 195 non-typ
B&C also has modern hunter records where 160 typ and I believe 185 non-typ will qualify for one recording period.
As someone else had mentioned, I would enter the buck in the category that it fit best. Usually, 1" of abnormal points doesn't make a very good non-typ, in my eyes.
I hope this helps