Exactly! It use to be the buck needed I think 10% of abnormal points to qualify for non typical but thats no longer the case. Its up to the individual hunter if it has abnormal points if he wants to score it as non typical or typical. Generally people will go with the score that benefits them most. Example would be for B@C- If the buck scores 170" net typical and then you score this same buck as a non typical because he does have some abnormal points and he scores 180" net non typical. Your better off scoring him as a typical because he doesn't have enough abnormal points to make it in the B@C books as a non typical. As was said earlier the minimums are 170" net for typical and 195" net for non typical.

so now that im pretty clear on what constitutes a nontypical. take this buck for example. it has a 1 3/4 inch kicker coming off the main frame so therefore its NOT considered "abnormal" therefore not a nontypical.. correct? a nontypical has at least oneabnormal point coming off one of the tines... yes?

It is an abnormal point. Abnormal points come off the main beam as well. If points come off of the main beam where they shouldn't, its more then likely a abnormal point, in your case it is. As long as its an inch long it can be a abnormal point. You would score this particular buck in your picture as a typical though, it wouldn't make sense to score it as a non typical being it don't have hardly any abnormal points besides the one you pointed out. That 1 1/2 sticker off of the main beam would be a deduction.

There are some good points here and you all my be rite. But I think I read in a farm magazine somewhere that the typical bucks do all the breeding and the nontypical buck has been castrated.

for P&Y , typical and Non typical is decided by how much over the minimum it is. which ever is higher over the mimimum for that catagory is where it will be placed

Exert from B&C website re: abnormal or non-typical points:

In the B&C and P&Y scoring system all deer are scored first as typicals and as such difference in the Rt and LT antler (Beams, G's & H's) are calculated as deductions to make up your final score. If abnormal points exist they are tallied up and added to your net typical score to produce a net non-typical score.

When score as non-typical vs typical? Answer is when condusive to do so! Meaning the abnormal total brings the score upsignificantly or as a better discriptor of the animal harvested. It doesn't have to be just to make bookeither, though that is the purpose of it in the scoring system. It is simply a judgement call by the individual scoring the animal.

In the case of the deer picture posted above, while it does have a abnormal point the addition of 1 6/8's" () doesn't really warrant including it. I would not includethis abnormal point and score it as a typical. However by definition it is able to be included and classified a Non Typical if you wish.

Clear as mud!!!

In my previous post I tried to explain the exact same thing you did but yours sounds better and is easier to understand! Good post skeeter!!!

great stuff guys. thanks.

the issue now is when this buck is officially measured he's estimated to be close amongst the one of the top typical bucks taken by muzzy in the state of mass if scored as typical. * BUT, has the potential to be not only the best nontypical mass buck taken with muzzy but top 12 in state (all-time) as a nontypical with muzzy.

* according northeast big buck club records
so if you have a choice in this "predicament" what would you do?

I would score it as a typical unless it has more abnormal points then I could see from the picture. To me its not a true non typical buck although it has a sticker point, just my opinion.

schultzy i feel the same way. it would be nice to say "ya i got one of the top12 recorded muzzy nontypical bucks in the northeast but it would seem right as this buck screams TYPICAL...