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RE: Ethical Calibers for Deer
ORIGINAL: ipscshooter Very interesting.... I just did a survey of the 50 states' regulations concerning the use of .22 CF's for deer hunting. Here's what I found: 6 States do not allow rifle hunting 8 States, either had no apparent restriction, or I could not find a restriction 3 states require .23 caliber or larger 4 states require .24 caliber or larger 29 states ALLOW the use of .22 caliber CF's. Of these, 4 have minimum ft. lbs. of energy restrictions which would allow some .22 CF's and prohibit other .22 CF's. NOTE: The moderator who shut down the .22 Hornet thread appears to indicate in the email to zrex that he knows .22 CF's are illegal in WV. The WV regulation actually reads "NO RIMFIRES UNDER .25 CALIBER". That does not, to me at least, mean .22 CF's are banned. Edited/update... 7 states do not allow rifle hunting 4 states require at least .23 caliber (KA, MN, VA, WY) 4 states require at least .24 or .243 caliber (CO, CN, IA WA) 35 states allow .22 Centerfires. Of the 35 that allow .22 Centerfires, 5 have energy restrictions. 2 of these say 1200 ft lbs of Muzzle Energy, 1 says 1000 ft lbs of Muzzle Energy, 1 says 900 ft lbs at 100 yards, and 1 says 1000 ft lbs at 100 yards. So, the .22 Hornet thread got deleted because, as explained by a moderator: In the majority of the USA using a .22 to hunt deer is illegal. I know that it is here in WV and checked the data base for other states. Yep, across the board it is for the most part illegal. When 35 of the 43 states that allow rifle hunting permit the use of .22 centerfires, I think that removes most question about whether the .22 CF's are "unethical". The ethics question, as I've said before, should relate solely to the individual hunter's shot selection based upon the legal caliber he has chosen. |
RE: Ethical Calibers for Deer
I knew a man that grew up hunting deer with a .22 in the 50s. He shot them in the chest, broadside, at close range with a hollow point. He stated they always went down after 100 yards or so. Ethical? Not to me, but to him? yes.
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RE: Ethical Calibers for Deer
i drive a f150 4x4 with a small lift kit but it is a straight 6. i must say it has as much power and noise as a v8
but it is also a reg cab ORIGINAL: HEAD0001 Oh and by the way I am sure everyone here drives a compact-non extended cab 2 WD truck, instead of a full size extended cab-V8-4 WD truck. Why of course you all drive the compact. It will get the job done!!:D:D:D:D ![]() ![]() Tom.
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RE: Ethical Calibers for Deer
ORIGINAL: bigtim6656 i drive a f150 4x4 with a small lift kit but it is a straight 6. i must say it has as much power and noise as a v8 but it is also a reg cab ORIGINAL: HEAD0001 Oh and by the way I am sure everyone here drives a compact-non extended cab 2 WD truck, instead of a full size extended cab-V8-4 WD truck. Why of course you all drive the compact. It will get the job done!!:D:D:D:D ![]() ![]() Tom.
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RE: Ethical Calibers for Deer
ORIGINAL: zrexpilot ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr Are you sure that was the only reason? High powered rifles period are not legal in a lot of states does that mean we can't post about rifle hunting anymore? By the way that is a legal cartridge in upper MI, where as in lower Michigan no centerfire rifles are allowed at all for deer hunting. I can't believe that would be their only basis for deleting a post. Paul The message you posted in Guns (http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tt.aspx?forumid=9), titled: " .22 Hornet scores again (update)" has been deleted. Reason:The reason if obvious.... In the majority of the USA using a .22 to hunt deer is illegal. I know that it is here in WV and checked the data base for other states. Yep, across the board it is for the most part illegal. In fact, I believe a centerfire 17 Cal would be legal in WV |
RE: Ethical Calibers for Deer
ya mine is a half tons to
i have hauled 60 sheets of plywoods and even 50 bundles of shingles at like 80 pounds each it was slow moving and it made some noise but it got to my door for a straight 6 i am happy ORIGINAL: ipscshooter ORIGINAL: bigtim6656 i drive a f150 4x4 with a small lift kit but it is a straight 6. i must say it has as much power and noise as a v8 but it is also a reg cab ORIGINAL: HEAD0001 Oh and by the way I am sure everyone here drives a compact-non extended cab 2 WD truck, instead of a full size extended cab-V8-4 WD truck. Why of course you all drive the compact. It will get the job done!!:D:D:D:D ![]() ![]() Tom.
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RE: Ethical Calibers for Deer
i use a 30/30 marlin i always have and always will... its what i know and love... so find a
gun you love and are comfortable and leave eachother alone!!!!! ![]() |
RE: Ethical Calibers for Deer
ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr To what avail? Well the point was sort of to let you know you are young and when you get more experience you will probably see things differently. Your views are about what I expect from someone with your level of weapons knowledge and skill. Maybe in another 20 or 30 years you will get my point. I should have known it was futile to reason with someone of your age. Paul |
RE: Ethical Calibers for Deer
i am content with my .50 cal. it does what ever i need it to. when i go to big open fields ilike my .243 ppl can say what they want but i have killed deer with lots of bigger rifles and my favorite rifle is a .243
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RE: Ethical Calibers for Deer
i agree with part of what Paul said
i am only 22 but i have learned more in the last 4 years then the first 18 like it is not a good idea to punch a guy in the middle of a carnival at the court house yard and i have learned that most of what i thought when i was young was wrong we all grow up and learn that were not know it alls ORIGINAL: arch ORIGINAL: Paul L Mohr To what avail? Well the point was sort of to let you know you are young and when you get more experience you will probably see things differently. Your views are about what I expect from someone with your level of weapons knowledge and skill. Maybe in another 20 or 30 years you will get my point. I should have known it was futile to reason with someone of your age. Paul |
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