243 winchester
12-21-2007 | 06:05 PM
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RE: 243 winchester
As for "more margin for error," I think that that is a misleading term too!
Granted, with too small of a bullet, or the wrong type of bullet, your range and target area can be really limited. However, the "big bullet", "I can hit 'em anywhere and he'll drop" theory has been disproven by the fact that larger calibers loose more game! Easier to shoot calibers lead to better accuracy. Deer are not particularly hard to kill, they can be very hard to recover though!A well placed shot from a caliber that you can shoot accurately gives you a much better recovery ratio than any "woundamagnum, drop-em-or-loose-em" caliberwill give you!
Granted, with too small of a bullet, or the wrong type of bullet, your range and target area can be really limited. However, the "big bullet", "I can hit 'em anywhere and he'll drop" theory has been disproven by the fact that larger calibers loose more game! Easier to shoot calibers lead to better accuracy. Deer are not particularly hard to kill, they can be very hard to recover though!A well placed shot from a caliber that you can shoot accurately gives you a much better recovery ratio than any "woundamagnum, drop-em-or-loose-em" caliberwill give you!
12-21-2007 | 06:20 PM
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RE: 243 winchester
My son shot this doe mid November with his .243 Handi Rifle. After seeing the .243 performance first hand, I'm considering a Model 700 .243 for my deer rifle and saving my .30-06 and .300 WSM for "Big Game". He was shooting 100gr Core Lokt
12-21-2007 | 06:50 PM
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RE: 243 winchester
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As for "more margin for error," I think that that is a misleading term too!
Granted, with too small of a bullet, or the wrong type of bullet, your range and target area can be really limited. However, the "big bullet", "I can hit 'em anywhere and he'll drop" theory has been disproven by the fact that larger calibers loose more game! Easier to shoot calibers lead to better accuracy. Deer are not particularly hard to kill, they can be very hard to recover though!A well placed shot from a caliber that you can shoot accurately gives you a much better recovery ratio than any "woundamagnum, drop-em-or-loose-em" caliberwill give you!
As for "more margin for error," I think that that is a misleading term too!
Granted, with too small of a bullet, or the wrong type of bullet, your range and target area can be really limited. However, the "big bullet", "I can hit 'em anywhere and he'll drop" theory has been disproven by the fact that larger calibers loose more game! Easier to shoot calibers lead to better accuracy. Deer are not particularly hard to kill, they can be very hard to recover though!A well placed shot from a caliber that you can shoot accurately gives you a much better recovery ratio than any "woundamagnum, drop-em-or-loose-em" caliberwill give you!
i dont mean shooting a deer like 5 inches from where your supposed to
i mean 2 or maybe 3
i think with a .243 you have maybe 1
i think a .260 would be a good choice for ladies or kids that cannot handle the recoil also
12-21-2007 | 06:59 PM
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RE: 243 winchester
ORIGINAL: JagMagMan
As for "more margin for error," I think that that is a misleading term too!
Granted, with too small of a bullet, or the wrong type of bullet, your range and target area can be really limited. However, the "big bullet", "I can hit 'em anywhere and he'll drop" theory has been disproven by the fact that larger calibers loose more game! Easier to shoot calibers lead to better accuracy. Deer are not particularly hard to kill, they can be very hard to recover though!A well placed shot from a caliber that you can shoot accurately gives you a much better recovery ratio than any "woundamagnum, drop-em-or-loose-em" caliberwill give you!
As for "more margin for error," I think that that is a misleading term too!
Granted, with too small of a bullet, or the wrong type of bullet, your range and target area can be really limited. However, the "big bullet", "I can hit 'em anywhere and he'll drop" theory has been disproven by the fact that larger calibers loose more game! Easier to shoot calibers lead to better accuracy. Deer are not particularly hard to kill, they can be very hard to recover though!A well placed shot from a caliber that you can shoot accurately gives you a much better recovery ratio than any "woundamagnum, drop-em-or-loose-em" caliberwill give you!
When I speak of margin of error I really mean shot angle/penetration...Most 243 bullets need a good clean broadside shot to be 100% effective....if I have to run a bullet frombrisket to hip i like a heavier bullet with a higher SD...There is no such thing as a 100% bang flop gun out there IMO.
12-21-2007 | 06:59 PM
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RE: 243 winchester
ORIGINAL: A11en
My son shot this doe mid November with his .243 Handi Rifle. After seeing the .243 performance first hand, I'm considering a Model 700 .243 for my deer rifle and saving my .30-06 and .300 WSM for "Big Game". He was shooting 100gr Core Lokt
My son shot this doe mid November with his .243 Handi Rifle. After seeing the .243 performance first hand, I'm considering a Model 700 .243 for my deer rifle and saving my .30-06 and .300 WSM for "Big Game". He was shooting 100gr Core Lokt
12-22-2007 | 07:15 AM
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RE: 243 winchester
ORIGINAL: Carpmaster
When I speak of margin of error I really mean shot angle/penetration...Most 243 bullets need a good clean broadside shot to be 100% effective....if I have to run a bullet frombrisket to hip i like a heavier bullet with a higher SD...There is no such thing as a 100% bang flop gun out there IMO.
When I speak of margin of error I really mean shot angle/penetration...Most 243 bullets need a good clean broadside shot to be 100% effective....if I have to run a bullet frombrisket to hip i like a heavier bullet with a higher SD...There is no such thing as a 100% bang flop gun out there IMO.
and it has a better BC as well. I have put the .243 end to end on deer, no problems with penetration.
I personaly like the Hornady ammo, this bullet works damn good. Just the BTSP, nothing special.
12-22-2007 | 07:22 AM
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RE: 243 winchester
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i never said hit him and hell drop
i dont mean shooting a deer like 5 inches from where your supposed to
i mean 2 or maybe 3
i think with a .243 you have maybe 1
i think a .260 would be a good choice for ladies or kids that cannot handle the recoil also
i never said hit him and hell drop
i dont mean shooting a deer like 5 inches from where your supposed to
i mean 2 or maybe 3
i think with a .243 you have maybe 1
i think a .260 would be a good choice for ladies or kids that cannot handle the recoil also
NOT ! The vital area of a deer is around 12" X 8" Put any descent caliber is that zone and the deer has no choice but to die. Miss that zone and the deer will go a long long long way, no matter what caliber you use, short of a 50bmg
12-22-2007 | 12:30 PM
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RE: 243 winchester
I like to use .250 as a baseline but as you mentioned a Nosler Partition 100 grain is .242 and any deer will die in short order from about any 150 grain 30 cal bullet....
12-22-2007 | 12:36 PM
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RE: 243 winchester
i used to use a 243 winchester but i needed something with more power! i killed a deer about 2 years ago with my cousins 243 we could hardly find any blood it was a ok shot its a good lil fella gun mighty small though....i moved on to a 308 wood model love that gun! i was 10 when i shot my first deer now im 12 and i have a 308 i like my 308 more but you know i wouldnt switch again but its a good lil gun it just doesnt leave much blood but it kicks cause it has a short barrel depends what you like.........my opion.......no......but thats my opion u like 243 u buy it!
12-22-2007 | 12:49 PM
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RE: 243 winchester
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i used to use a 243 winchester but i needed something with more power! i killed a deer about 2 years ago with my cousins 243 we could hardly find any blood it was a ok shot its a good lil fella gun mighty small though....i moved on to a 308 wood model love that gun! i was 10 when i shot my first deer now im 12 and i have a 308 i like my 308 more but you know i wouldnt switch again but its a good lil gun it just doesnt leave much blood but it kicks cause it has a short barrel depends what you like.........my opion.......no......but thats my opion u like 243 u buy it!
i used to use a 243 winchester but i needed something with more power! i killed a deer about 2 years ago with my cousins 243 we could hardly find any blood it was a ok shot its a good lil fella gun mighty small though....i moved on to a 308 wood model love that gun! i was 10 when i shot my first deer now im 12 and i have a 308 i like my 308 more but you know i wouldnt switch again but its a good lil gun it just doesnt leave much blood but it kicks cause it has a short barrel depends what you like.........my opion.......no......but thats my opion u like 243 u buy it!
then when i turned 13 i got a .308
much bigger hole= much bigger blood trail