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ORIGINAL: betsy_


However, those of you who are doing this as some kind of fun activity, I have to say there is something not quite right with you. To think that killing something else is an entertaining thing to do cannot be seen as a particually sane activity, and is really just sadistic.

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ORIGINAL: betsy_

I've ended up on this website by mistake,

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ORIGINAL: betsy_

I've ended up on this website by mistake...

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ORIGINAL: betsy_

I'm English actually, I don't know what Texas RoadHouse is, and I only buy free range/organic meat, I'm well aware hunting is often far more kind that the average slaughterhouse, hence why I don't buy from them. I have no problem with killing to eat, as I said before, but I have a problem when people dress up and view it as a game when they can't even shoot to kill; people should be aware of what they're actually doing before they buy a gun and set out hunting.
I know people who go shooting, and do it well and eat their game, as many here seem to, and thats great; but I also know people who can't manage to hit to kill and it's honestly disgusting, and there seemed to be a fare amount of people on this website like that as well.

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There seem to be quite a few people even unable to kill the animals they set out to,

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However, those of you who are doing this as some kind of fun activity, I have to say there is something not quite right with you.

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ORIGINAL: Paulpskp

Thanks Betsy I will make sure that I improve my shooting skills to meet with your approval.

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I only buy free range/organic meat

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ORIGINAL: betsy_

I've ended up on this website by mistake, and I just couldn't stop reading and looking at everything up here, its horrible.

First of all, I'd like to say that I do eat meat, and fair enough for the ones here who are killing animals to eat; it's exactly the same as buying the meat from a shop.

However, those of you who are doing this as some kind of fun activity, I have to say there is something not quite right with you. To think that killing something else is an entertaining thing to do cannot be seen as a particually sane activity, and is really just sadistic. You're only one step away from killing a human when you behave in the way some of the people on this site seem to be.

There seem to be quite a few people even unable to kill the animals they set out to, (see the "rotten deer?"), which has sickened me even more. If you not even capable of hunting properly do not both at all. If you quite obvious cannot even aim a gun with any level of skill you are not only killing animals for some kind of twisted sport, but are also effectively torturing the animals. Make sure to at least kill them properly if you must do it, you shouldn't be caring about whether or not you can eat their meat, you should be thinking about how that animal will have wondered about dying for hours of even days before you found its body.

Before you all get really angry, and say you've heard this argument all before, and I'm wrong, please consider this. There's a reason fox hunting was banned in England, this sort of behavious is effectively just killing for enjoyment; go ahead, hunt for meat, but don't do it for fun. The second you cross that barrier, you have to realize there is something just plain sick about your activities.

So next time you go play dress-up, in your cute little army outfits, think about how stupid you seem to the rest of the world, behaving like little children with a shiny new game. Oh, and please, if you're going to be so childish, getting all the pretty clothes and guns and all those extra special toys, at least make sure you can shoot a gun, so many of you seem in capable of even holding one straight.

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ORIGINAL: Vabowman

Betsy, if that is your real name, I really wish you had better writing skills, I could not understandmuch of what your complaint was. Too many mistakes in your in grammer Betsyand I really did not see a thesis statement. Please learn to write and express your feelings in a way that can be understood. You see Betsy, not all hunters areuneducated rednecks. I happen to be an educator, not to mention a Summa Cum Laude graduate of Va State University. That means I graduated number one in my class with a 4.0 gpa, so please do not get on here and degrade us andspeak down to us with yourEnglish elitist attitude. I know this additude well, my in-laws are English, and yes, they feel same way you do about hunting. Too bad for them and you, however,they do love me for what it is worth. Now, I have no problem with your opinion of hunting, to each his own. I don't care what they did in England about hunting, personally I think they have much greater problems with drug addiction and health care. Please clean your own house before your try to dirty ours.

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ORIGINAL: DeerDad61

Betsy,

I am rather new to this forum, and have actively hunted for about 8 years. I am a 46 year old male and me and my family eat every piece of whitetail meat that I harvest. I would bet that 99% of the hunters out there feel that deer are put on God's green earth for people to eat. Hunters should hunt properly, ethically and have a sense of reverence when they harvest one of God's creatures and eat it. I'm sorry if you have experienced hunters that don't see it this way. Well, going to go home and put on some steaks for my family. I had the joy to harvest 2 deer from Southwest Wisconsin earlier this season, and man are they tasty!!

Sincerely,

DeerDad61

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ORIGINAL: betsy_

I'm English actually, I don't know what Texas RoadHouse is, and I only buy free range/organic meat, I'm well aware hunting is often far more kind that the average slaughterhouse, hence why I don't buy from them. I have no problem with killing to eat, as I said before, but I have a problem when people dress up and view it as a game when they can't even shoot to kill; people should be aware of what they're actually doing before they buy a gun and set out hunting.
I know people who go shooting, and do it well and eat their game, as many here seem to, and thats great; but I also know people who can't manage to hit to kill and it's honestly disgusting, and there seemed to be a fare amount of people on this website like that as well.

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ORIGINAL: wack

Dear Betsy, I've had the pleasure of taking an English man hunting here in the states and found it very interesting. He came to visit, and sounded a lot like you. He went hunting with us, that was 17 years ago. He never went back to England and has hunted every year since. He and his wife never knew such a beautiful place existed and were amazed by all the wildlife they've seen here. Why? Because of the way we manage our wildlife, and the way we respect our wildlife.
From what I understand, the English have no business telling us how to manage our wild life. In England, only the filthy rich can afford to hunt what very little game you have left. The English fox hunts, talk about playing dress up, does not resemble in the least what hunting is about in the states. Just how many Englishmen, horses and dogs does it take to run down a little fox until they can't run no more? How many people does that little fox feed? yuk!
Now I can not expect you to understand what it's like to hunt. It's something you have to experience for yourself and that is not possible in your country. I doubt you even have the right to own a firearm much less have a place to hunt or enough wild game to hunt. I live in Wisconsin where we have a couple million deer. Deer car collissions kill a lot of deer and also humans. We have so many that the only alturnative to hunting is letting them starve to death. How long and painfull would that be? How humane? Farmers grow crops to feed the world, left unchecked the deer and other wildlife would certainly strip the fields bare. One farm I used to hunt had 75% crop damage caused by deer and turkeys. With out hunting and the management that we have, either the farmer would be out of buisiness or, like England, the deer would be all gone. Fortunately, we're smarter than that and when the populations get to high, hunters step up to the plate and bring the numbers down to a managible number. If the deer population gets to low, we respect the animal and protect them.
Wisconsin is one of 50 states.This past gun deer season hunters killed 70,000 + deer in Wisconsin. Lucky hunters who got more deer than they needed, donate the meat to local food pantries. This feeds thousands of hungry people. To be able to provide meat for my family and feed families I don't even know, puts joy in my heart. It's also good to know that if I should fall on hard times, I can depend on my hunting brothers to share in the harvest.
Now if I were to take you hunting here in Wisconsin, first you would have to attend hunter's safety class. You can't get a license to hunt with out it. They teach you how to handle a gun safely, teach you how to shoot, teach you the laws and regulations. 70,000 armed hunters in the woods for 9 days and we had only 3 accidents, 2 fatalities. Apparently we know what we are doing.
As for the fun in it? Families hunt together, friends hunt together, it's a celebration. The adrenalin you get when you see a deer/ take a deer is unexplainable. You have to experience it to understand. If that is 1 step away from killing humans then we have over 70,000 killers in Wisconsin and this certainly would not be a safe place to live. Wisconsin is every bit as safe of place to live as England only a lot better. That is a statement I've heard your own countryman say after living here for a few years.
I can understand your disgust with some of the so called hunters, they also disgust many of us hunters. One bad apple so to speak, but as a whole, for most hunters it's not about the killing. You'd find out that those who talk like idiots also hunt like idiots, and they couldn't get close to deer if they wanted too. They're just talk and peer pressure usually straightens them out.

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