Reduction of out-of-state fees
08-12-2007, 04:03 PM
#21
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sioux Falls SD USA
Posts: 79
RE: Reduction of out-of-state fees
ORIGINAL: UncleNorby
As a taxpayer in these United States, I think I should be able to hunt federal land for the cost of a resident license in that state.In my opinion, a resident of onestate shouldn't have more rights to federal land in his state than any other US citizen.
As a taxpayer in these United States, I think I should be able to hunt federal land for the cost of a resident license in that state.In my opinion, a resident of onestate shouldn't have more rights to federal land in his state than any other US citizen.
QuickQuestion. So now I want to go down south or back east and huntwaterfowl or Deer. Do I havethe same chance has someone going to Colorado orWyoming. No!!! These states relyon the Out of staters willing to pay.
08-12-2007, 04:26 PM
#23
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sioux Falls SD USA
Posts: 79
RE: Reduction of out-of-state fees
Last time I looked BLM and Forest are federal, unless I missed something and they changed those to State lands. Don't see much yellow(BLM) on the maps once you get east of the Missouri. FOrest yeah, but I would guess put money that there is more national forest and Grassland in the west then the East Also!!
08-12-2007, 05:08 PM
#24
Spike
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location:
Posts: 74
RE: Reduction of out-of-state fees
ORIGINAL: enginegrunt
What!! That is absolutely absurd. Has to be spolen from an from someone on the east coast where there is no public land. The western states are mostly public. I'm from the Wyoming originally and alot of the state is Checker board BLM and Forest.Canyou say that aboutthe East. Probably not.
QuickQuestion. So now I want to go down south or back east and huntwaterfowl or Deer. Do I havethe same chance has someone going to Colorado orWyoming. No!!! These states relyon the Out of staters willing to pay.
ORIGINAL: UncleNorby
As a taxpayer in these United States, I think I should be able to hunt federal land for the cost of a resident license in that state.In my opinion, a resident of onestate shouldn't have more rights to federal land in his state than any other US citizen.
As a taxpayer in these United States, I think I should be able to hunt federal land for the cost of a resident license in that state.In my opinion, a resident of onestate shouldn't have more rights to federal land in his state than any other US citizen.
QuickQuestion. So now I want to go down south or back east and huntwaterfowl or Deer. Do I havethe same chance has someone going to Colorado orWyoming. No!!! These states relyon the Out of staters willing to pay.
We cannot help the fact that these species do not roam the Everglades and should not be unfairly taxed (licensed) for hunting them in land that we pay taxes to maintain.
08-12-2007, 05:29 PM
#25
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sioux Falls SD USA
Posts: 79
RE: Reduction of out-of-state fees
Just responding back to the comment. As for being fair that the western states have animals that Florida does not. Well thats just it. Elk used to thrive throughout the lower 48, but do to human population they now have retreated to the higher elevations.
So I throw this out there. Government steps in and contols hunting in the Western States Bread and Butter. Now should the Federal Government Regulate the tourist traps around the Country for there high prices. Let's say Disney World!!
So I throw this out there. Government steps in and contols hunting in the Western States Bread and Butter. Now should the Federal Government Regulate the tourist traps around the Country for there high prices. Let's say Disney World!!
08-13-2007, 03:44 AM
#26
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NW WY USA
Posts: 206
RE: Reduction of out-of-state fees
It doesn't cost anyone, anything to hunt on federal land.
BUT..............the states and it'speople own the game. Each state can and does manage their own game herds as they see fit. It's that way in every state, and the federal goverment should stay out of the states affairs.
This has been taken to court and all the courts stand up for the states rights to manage their own game herds.
Do you guys remember several years ago when USO outfitters (George Taullman) tried to dosome thing very similar to thisincourt. It failed big time and he was black balled by all the hunting community.
BUT..............the states and it'speople own the game. Each state can and does manage their own game herds as they see fit. It's that way in every state, and the federal goverment should stay out of the states affairs.
This has been taken to court and all the courts stand up for the states rights to manage their own game herds.
Do you guys remember several years ago when USO outfitters (George Taullman) tried to dosome thing very similar to thisincourt. It failed big time and he was black balled by all the hunting community.
08-13-2007, 07:44 AM
#27
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 4,264
RE: Reduction of out-of-state fees
I think this country has suffered too much from attempts to bring change, it's time people face reality, hunting, is generally expensive, and travelling anywhere, by car, is expensive, let's face it, the world is much more expensive than it used to be, that's just the way things are.
Of course, if we had hybrid cars and planes, the travel costs would be less, and weight restrictions on airlines would be lowered, since that's the reason they lower them, the more weight, the more energy required to keep the objects flying.
I think that there's other solutions to this problem, like alternative fuels, which would lower the cost to get to theWest in the first place, so then that gives you more money to be able to spend on the game tag.
Josiah
Of course, if we had hybrid cars and planes, the travel costs would be less, and weight restrictions on airlines would be lowered, since that's the reason they lower them, the more weight, the more energy required to keep the objects flying.
I think that there's other solutions to this problem, like alternative fuels, which would lower the cost to get to theWest in the first place, so then that gives you more money to be able to spend on the game tag.
Josiah
08-13-2007, 08:25 AM
#28
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,607
RE: Reduction of out-of-state fees
ORIGINAL: hesseu
i would like to see out of state tags go down in price; but, in most states you would still have to get drawn in a lottery to even have the opportunity to purchase a tag. if a lottery and lower tag prices, i think it could be a win win situation (just make every state a lottery for out-of-state tags)
i would like to see out of state tags go down in price; but, in most states you would still have to get drawn in a lottery to even have the opportunity to purchase a tag. if a lottery and lower tag prices, i think it could be a win win situation (just make every state a lottery for out-of-state tags)
From what I'm reading it seems like most talk is about the Easterners coming out west and stealin' guys elk and mule deer but on the reverse, I'd like for some of my family and friends that live in CO be able to come out to VA and hunt w/me and not cost them an arm and a leg.
08-13-2007, 09:51 AM
#29
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Woodbridge, Virginia
Posts: 427
RE: Reduction of out-of-state fees
TN, for $120 in VA you can purchase a NonRes Sportsman's license and that includes Rifle, Muzzle loader, Archery, Crossbow, big game, small game and a fishing license. You can shoot and reel until you need a chiropractor for $120. And as for no Fed Land in the east, VA has over 2.5 million acres of National Forests called the George Washington NF and the Thomas Jefferson National Forest. The western states are not protecting anything except their budgets. They are gouging out of stater's and it goes up every year. I guarantee you that it would be a different story on here if the Feds didn't let hunting on the BLM and other Fed. Land out west. I agree that I don't want the Feds getting involved with hunting, but it just is not fair that I pay taxes to maintain and operate Fed land and parks, but I pay 20 times more than a person that lives in that state. How about VA, MD and DC start charging everyone from out west $500 to visit all of the Fed. Monuments and parks here in our area? What would all of the tourists say? NOT FAIR, I pay for those! That is what they would say. Just make this a little more fair. Don't ask for $755 for an Elk tag for Non-Res and $50 for a Resident.
08-13-2007, 10:23 AM
#30
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,607
RE: Reduction of out-of-state fees
VA Mike, I think you might have misunderstood me. I think we agree on this.I realize how expensive licenses are in VA, I grew up and lived for 21 yearsin Craig county which issomething ridiculous like 80% NF.My point is, despite the fact that its cheaper for someone to come east and hunt rather than west, if its federal land I think the price for a license/tagshould be the same. Others may disagree and that's fine that's what makes America so great.
