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Old 01-25-2007, 11:38 AM
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has anyone else heard that it is bad hunters ethics to shot a albino deer. i heard it will bring forth 8 bad years of hunts.
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:39 AM
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It isn't bad ethics here in NC because it is legal.
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:41 AM
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What do ethics and superstition have to do with each other in this case??


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Old 01-25-2007, 11:43 AM
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What do ethics and superstition have to do with each other in this case??

basically i was asking both from the same question. sorry
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Old 01-25-2007, 03:43 PM
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Albino deer are genetically inferior,perfectly legal in Ohio to shoot, If given the chance i would take out of the heard in a minute. [/align]
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Albino deer are genetically inferior,perfectly legal in Ohio to shoot, If given the chance i would take out of the heard in a minute.
My friend is albino. is he genetically inferior too? [8D]
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Old 01-25-2007, 03:50 PM
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Can't shoot one in IA. Dumb law as they are inferior to the breeding gene pool. Real rare and people like seeing them. No, it not unethical to shoot one where it is legal to do so. Why would you feel that it is?
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:36 PM
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it's perfectly ethical. WARNING: SCIENCE CONTENT
Genes control the expression of physical traits, such as albinism. Genes come in allele pairs, that is, you get one gene from your mom and one from your dad. Genes are always paired-two alleles (usually, but we won't get into that)

Dominant/Recessive: Dominant alleles take priority over recessive. Recessive traits can only be expressed when there are no dominant alleles for the gene. You can be homozygous (having either both dominant alleles or both recessive) or heterozygous (different alleles). Genes are represented by paired letters. Dominant alleles are represented by a capital letter, recessive by lowercase.

WW-Homozygous dominant, the dominant trait is expressed
Ww-Heterozygous, the dominant trait is expressed; the animal is a carrier for the recessive trait
ww-Homozygous recessive-the recessive trait is expressed


albinism is inherited, and the condition is caused by recessive genes. most deer have the dominant genes for this trait, which produces the normal color. albino deer have both recessive alleles for the trait, making them albino-they don't produce melanin, the pigment which brings color to the hair, skin, and eyes. deer can be carriers of albinism yet still look normal-they are heterozygous, one dominant allele (which codes for normal color) and one recessive allele.

Like this: "A" is the dominant allele which codes for the normal color, while "a" is the recessive allele and codes for albinism

AA-This deer is said to be homozygous dominant, and is normal color. This deer can only pass on the dominant gene for normal color ("A") to its offspring.

Aa-This deer is said to be heterozygous, and is normal color. This deer can pass either the normal color dominant gene ("A") or the albino recessive gene ("a") to its offspring.

aa-This deer is said be homozygous recessive, and is albino. This deer can only pass the recessive albino gene ("a") to its offspring.

It's not really a matter of genetic inferiority, there's nothing really wrong with albino deer-they just drew a bad hand from the gene pool. Albino deer, or any albino organism with predators, are much less likely to survive to adulthood, because they are easily picked off by predators. Most albino deer do not make it past their first winter. Killing albino deer won't eliminate the condition from the gene pool, however it may make it even more infrequent. So for a state to say it's illegal to kill them b/c they are albino and "rare" is pointless, because the trait can still exist through carriers, which look normal, but carry the albino gene.
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Old 01-25-2007, 04:57 PM
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If we're going to discuss ethics then maybe we should define EXACTLY what ethics means.

Webster's New World College Dictionary, Fourth Edition defines ETHICS as......

ethics, n. 1. the study of standards of conduct and moral judgement; moral philosophy 2. a treatise on this study 3. the system or code of morals of a particular person, religion, group, profession, etc.

But that's that particular dictionary's definition.

In the hunter safety education classes that I teach, we do a segment on conservation in which we cover ethics. We define ethics as MORAL PRINCIPALS OR VALUES THAT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG; THEY ARE UNWRITTEN RULES THAT SOCIETY EXPECTS TO BE FOLLOWED.

So with that, if it is a written rule or law IMO it would certainly be unethical.

But if it is not a written rule or lawthen IMO it is each individuals choice.

As far as 8 years bad luck...........that's just superstition, wives taleBS.


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Not unethical, as long as it's legal.
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