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is it bad hunters ethics?

Old 01-25-2007, 09:33 PM
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ok so it's got no pigmentation. It stands out. So what if it's a shooter and it's legal in the state to shoot it. Lower the boom on that guy before somebody else does. Then get it mounted. and you can ask all your buddies if they think that it's ethical.
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:38 AM
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Here it is legal, and they say it is seven years bad luck. But, if given the opportunity I would shoot one and try to get a full mount of it done so others can see it too.
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:40 AM
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If its legal, it's an awesome trophy to harvest!
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:55 AM
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ORIGINAL: teamster284

Albino deer are genetically inferior,perfectly legal in Ohio to shoot, If given the chance i would take out of the heard in a minute.
My friend is albino. is he genetically inferior too? [8D]
He is your friend, so you arein a better position to judgethat!
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:57 AM
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if its a deer, and its legal, its going in the freezer.
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:14 AM
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It is here, because it's illegal in Tennessee.
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:39 AM
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In the hunter safety education classes that I teach, we do a segment on conservation in which we cover ethics. We define ethics as MORAL PRINCIPALS OR VALUES THAT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG; THEY ARE UNWRITTEN RULES THAT SOCIETY EXPECTS TO BE FOLLOWED.

So with that, if it is a written rule or law IMO it would certainly be unethical.

But if it is not a written rule or lawthen IMO it is each individuals choice.

As far as 8 years bad luck...........that's just superstition, wives taleBS.
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Old 01-26-2007, 11:39 AM
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it's perfectly ethical. WARNING: SCIENCE CONTENT
Genes control the expression of physical traits, such as albinism. Genes come in allele pairs, that is, you get one gene from your mom and one from your dad. Genes are always paired-two alleles (usually, but we won't get into that)

Dominant/Recessive: Dominant alleles take priority over recessive. Recessive traits can only be expressed when there are no dominant alleles for the gene. You can be homozygous (having either both dominant alleles or both recessive) or heterozygous (different alleles). Genes are represented by paired letters. Dominant alleles are represented by a capital letter, recessive by lowercase.

WW-Homozygous dominant, the dominant trait is expressed
Ww-Heterozygous, the dominant trait is expressed; the animal is a carrier for the recessive trait
ww-Homozygous recessive-the recessive trait is expressed

albinism is inherited, and the condition is caused by recessive genes. most deer have the dominant genes for this trait, which produces the normal color. albino deer have both recessive alleles for the trait, making them albino-they don't produce melanin, the pigment which brings color to the hair, skin, and eyes. deer can be carriers of albinism yet still look normal-they are heterozygous, one dominant allele (which codes for normal color) and one recessive allele.

Like this: "A" is the dominant allele which codes for the normal color, while "a" is the recessive allele and codes for albinism

AA-This deer is said to be homozygous dominant, and is normal color. This deer can only pass on the dominant gene for normal color ("A") to its offspring.

Aa-This deer is said to be heterozygous, and is normal color. This deer can pass either the normal color dominant gene ("A") or the albino recessive gene ("a") to its offspring.

aa-This deer is said be homozygous recessive, and is albino. This deer can only pass the recessive albino gene ("a") to its offspring.

It's not really a matter of genetic inferiority, there's nothing really wrong with albino deer-they just drew a bad hand from the gene pool. Albino deer, or any albino organism with predators, are much less likely to survive to adulthood, because they are easily picked off by predators. Most albino deer do not make it past their first winter. Killing albino deer won't eliminate the condition from the gene pool, however it may make it even more infrequent. So for a state to say it's illegal to kill them b/c they are albino and "rare" is pointless, because the trait can still exist through carriers, which look normal, but carry the albino gene.
wow - a lesson on Mendelian genetics. Do we get to play w/ Punnett squares?

Oh yeah - Mendall was a fraud...

...sort of

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Old 01-26-2007, 02:22 PM
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As long as it is legal where you hunt, there is nothing unethical about it!
I can't even understand why it would be illegal anywhere! An albino deer usually has a shorter life expectancy anyway! Part of that might be due to them not having any camoflage and being easy prey for predators other than hunters! But again, there is really no scientific reason to protect them!
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:11 PM
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Rarely am I negative to posters of stupid questions.......in this case all I can say is 'get a grip'.
I vote this the stupidest post I've ever read.
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