RE: Long range hunting! *VIDEO*
 

There is a link to a preview of that video on this page in post #65.

RE: Long range hunting! *VIDEO*
 

I saw those vidios a couple years back on the outdoor channel. My reference to silhouette shooting is just to point out that I know rifles and what little things like a 10 mph cross wind somewhere between the shooter and the target can mean a complete miss. I have seen some very good rifle shots miss targets that they usually hit. However when you miss a target you laugh and try again. Animals are not tatgets to see if you can hit them at any range. And Peta and the boys love to see extra sport built into killing something.

Long range shooting is fun but best kept to targets and wars. Nobody is perfect at any range, when they start showing some real world results, then they might have a little credablility in my book. However like I said before, you won't see their mistakes.

RE: Long range hunting! *VIDEO*
 

Just a quick note on the observation that they may have been shooting over a road in the video. I was in Switzerland a couple of years ago. On the way into the plant we were working at we drove through a military rifle range. Meaning we were on a major road that was running through a low area, the shooting area was on one side and the targets were on the other (elevated of course).

RE: Long range hunting! *VIDEO*
 

PETA loves it when people do stuff like in that video and call it hunting.

The "TARGET SHOOTERS" in those clips merely prove that when you are in control of the camera you can show people only what you want to show them. Beyond that all we know is that occasionally they hit a deer at those distances. For all you know the shotsthey show in those clips may be the only 3 or 4 deer theykilled out of the last 25 they shot at.

RE: Long range hunting! *VIDEO*
 

And for all you know, it could have been three shots, three kills. We don't know, and yet we're here fighting amongst ourselves when there are FAR more pressing issues like keeping the Democrats from taking the presidency in the next election.

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Exactly, and it is that fact that obviously the defenders of these guys are blissfully ignorant of. It's not a matter of James B or myself not being as good a shot as these guys and therefore thinking them unethical. There is no such thing as being so good that you can make a sure first shot to a deers vitals at distances of that length. Those who believe otherwise need to cut back on the Rambo movies for a while until the fantasy fog of long range shooting myths starts to clear from their minds.

Yes deer are shot at and lost at much shorter distances. You bet. The difference is that it's very possible to consistently score good first shot hits at the shorter distances if you practice a bit. The fact that some people screw up at shorter distances is a reflection on them not the task at hand.

And no one addressed what I said earlier that proves to me that what these guys are doing isn't hunting, it's target shooting. A hunter wants to get as close as possible to his prey. I'd love to kill every buck I take at 50 yards if it were possible. No hunter wants to have tomake a long shot. Backing out to 800, 900 or a 1000 yards on purpose just to see if you can still make the shot is not hunting. It's target shooting.

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Elections come and go. Our ethics are here to stay. Like I said, nobody is perfect. They will have their share of screw ups which is magnified my the fact that this kind of shooting just invites trouble that is uncalled for. If a decent bow hunter can take deer at 5-20 yards, why should someone shoot 750 yards at a critter?. I was a hunting guide for a dozen years and peolpe who tried those kind of shots never hunted with me again. I seldom OKed shots beyond three hundred yards and then only for a few hunters that I had seen shoot.

I won't harp on it anymore but its an issue that stirs my coals.

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Please take me down the slippery slope of how disagreeing about taking 1000 yard shots at deer on an internet forum is going to put a Democrat in the Whitehouse or let PETA win. I wish the people who say stuff like this all the time could see the absurdity of such comments as I do. What are you going to do, get so ticked off at me that you vote for a Democrat to spite me? Do you think I'm going to do something similar as well? Do you think that I'm gonna throw in with PETA to try and stop these guys from taking 1000 yards shots at deer? Please explain exactly how this is supposed to work. VIDEO clips like the one posted here are the only thing that might help PETA by giving them ammo to use against all hunters.

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I agree.

RE: Long range hunting! *VIDEO*
 

Couldthe "Ethical Shot Police" please inform me how far I am allowed to shoot with my rifle at a deer. What is the farthest I am allowed to shoot to be deemed a good "ethical" hunter?