I thought he made it through??
01-15-2007 | 08:55 PM
#11
Giant Nontypical
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From: HENDERSON KY USA
RE: I thought he made it through??
The problem with it being legal as long as you don't posses a firearm is that is unconstitutional.(Ky was the same for a long time)The last time I checked,we had the right to keep and posses firearms.Better off to just make it illegal and be done with it.
01-15-2007 | 09:17 PM
#12
Typical Buck
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From: Fort Wayne Indiana USA
RE: I thought he made it through??
GForce,I think you misunderstood me a little bit. I know when it is legal and that you can't posess a firearm. My point was that I can't believe that its legal at all, firearm or not.
IMO MANY MANY MANY more poachers would be caught if it was completely illegal.
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And now thisgoes to many extremes; it is legal to purchase, posess and consume alcohol but where do you draw the line on the pointwhere it becomes illegal? Death of a human being?
What about tobacco, many issues are being considered in various city, local,and state governments as to the issues of second-hand smoke.
To this end,should we just consider and accept everyknee-jerk reaction handed down to us by the legislation?
01-15-2007 | 09:27 PM
#13
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From: Wisconsin and Canada
RE: I thought he made it through??
ORIGINAL: GForce
And now thisgoes to many extremes; it is legal to purchase, posess and consume alcohol but where do you draw the line on the pointwhere it becomes illegal? Death of a human being?
What about tobacco, many issues are being considered in various city, local,and state governments as to the issues of second-hand smoke.
To this end,should we just consider and accept everyknee-jerk reaction handed down to us by the legislation?
And now thisgoes to many extremes; it is legal to purchase, posess and consume alcohol but where do you draw the line on the pointwhere it becomes illegal? Death of a human being?
What about tobacco, many issues are being considered in various city, local,and state governments as to the issues of second-hand smoke.
To this end,should we just consider and accept everyknee-jerk reaction handed down to us by the legislation?
To me shining is used for nothing but entertainment. I believe it does no good in scouting, except it being the lazy and cheap way to take stock of deer in your area.
There is a huge problem with poaching. What is their main method? Shining. Its that simple.
Its already illegal to drink and drive, so that is not an effective arguement. Can you tell which vehicle carries poachers if you see them shining? No. If shining were illegal, only poachers would be shining.
01-15-2007 | 09:50 PM
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Typical Buck
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From: Fort Wayne Indiana USA
RE: I thought he made it through??
ORIGINAL: TFOX
The problem with it being legal as long as you don't posses a firearm is that is unconstitutional.(Ky was the same for a long time)The last time I checked,we had the right to keep and posses firearms.Better off to just make it illegal and be done with it.
The problem with it being legal as long as you don't posses a firearm is that is unconstitutional.(Ky was the same for a long time)The last time I checked,we had the right to keep and posses firearms.Better off to just make it illegal and be done with it.
With that being said, where do we draw the line?
You can not scout any game animal via any available resource?
Let's get real,poachers are poachers; indifferent to the laws. They will continue as long as the LEGAL hunting public allows.
Please tell me whatrecourse is available?
Therein lies the problem.
Why are the gun control laws allowedentrance into our first amendment rights?
I welcome any comments via my e-mail.
01-15-2007 | 10:26 PM
#16
Typical Buck
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From: Fort Wayne Indiana USA
RE: I thought he made it through??
IMO apples and oranges.
To me shining is used for nothing but entertainment. I believe it does no good in scouting, except it being the lazy and cheap way to take stock of deer in your area.
There is a huge problem with poaching. What is their main method? Shining. Its that simple. I agree, but to an extent.
OKAY, let's adjust our focus here. If you positon a game camera on a deer trail to acquire some photos of the deer in your area, are you not indeed now "shining" or"poaching"?
Come clean here, you can not have it one way or the other!
If you use fine optics to locate the entrance to a bedding area on a 200 yard bean field, are you not poaching? NO YOU Are using all available resources to scout the deer in youarea.
Wanna bet with me, I have watched many videos that upon the first few days in camp have "glassed" their deer of the prey doing the exact same ritual. That is how they determine where they set their locations.
Bringit on...
-Steve
To me shining is used for nothing but entertainment. I believe it does no good in scouting, except it being the lazy and cheap way to take stock of deer in your area.
There is a huge problem with poaching. What is their main method? Shining. Its that simple. I agree, but to an extent.
OKAY, let's adjust our focus here. If you positon a game camera on a deer trail to acquire some photos of the deer in your area, are you not indeed now "shining" or"poaching"?
Come clean here, you can not have it one way or the other!
If you use fine optics to locate the entrance to a bedding area on a 200 yard bean field, are you not poaching? NO YOU Are using all available resources to scout the deer in youarea.
Wanna bet with me, I have watched many videos that upon the first few days in camp have "glassed" their deer of the prey doing the exact same ritual. That is how they determine where they set their locations.
Bringit on...
-Steve
01-16-2007 | 09:14 AM
#17
Nontypical Buck
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From: wisconsin
RE: I thought he made it through??
Man,this is nuts,Dan said he thaught shining should be outlawed because it will then identify poachers easily.I use lights to shoot coons and coyotes,but im not in a vehicle when i do it.Poachers are mostly lazy,they wont get too far from the truck.Dans right.
ORIGINAL: GForce
IMO apples and oranges.
To me shining is used for nothing but entertainment. I believe it does no good in scouting, except it being the lazy and cheap way to take stock of deer in your area.
There is a huge problem with poaching. What is their main method? Shining. Its that simple. I agree, but to an extent.
OKAY, let's adjust our focus here. If you positon a game camera on a deer trail to acquire some photos of the deer in your area, are you not indeed now "shining" or"poaching"?
Come clean here, you can not have it one way or the other!
If you use fine optics to locate the entrance to a bedding area on a 200 yard bean field, are you not poaching? NO YOU Are using all available resources to scout the deer in youarea.
Wanna bet with me, I have watched many videos that upon the first few days in camp have "glassed" their deer of the prey doing the exact same ritual. That is how they determine where they set their locations.
Bringit on...
-Steve
IMO apples and oranges.
To me shining is used for nothing but entertainment. I believe it does no good in scouting, except it being the lazy and cheap way to take stock of deer in your area.
There is a huge problem with poaching. What is their main method? Shining. Its that simple. I agree, but to an extent.
OKAY, let's adjust our focus here. If you positon a game camera on a deer trail to acquire some photos of the deer in your area, are you not indeed now "shining" or"poaching"?
Come clean here, you can not have it one way or the other!
If you use fine optics to locate the entrance to a bedding area on a 200 yard bean field, are you not poaching? NO YOU Are using all available resources to scout the deer in youarea.
Wanna bet with me, I have watched many videos that upon the first few days in camp have "glassed" their deer of the prey doing the exact same ritual. That is how they determine where they set their locations.
Bringit on...
-Steve
01-16-2007 | 02:35 PM
#19
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From: Wisconsin and Canada
RE: I thought he made it through??
ORIGINAL: furgitter
Man,this is nuts,Dan said he thaught shining should be outlawed because it will then identify poachers easily.I use lights to shoot coons and coyotes,but im not in a vehicle when i do it.Poachers are mostly lazy,they wont get too far from the truck.Dans right.
Man,this is nuts,Dan said he thaught shining should be outlawed because it will then identify poachers easily.I use lights to shoot coons and coyotes,but im not in a vehicle when i do it.Poachers are mostly lazy,they wont get too far from the truck.Dans right.
ORIGINAL: GForce
IMO apples and oranges.
To me shining is used for nothing but entertainment. I believe it does no good in scouting, except it being the lazy and cheap way to take stock of deer in your area.
There is a huge problem with poaching. What is their main method? Shining. Its that simple. I agree, but to an extent.
OKAY, let's adjust our focus here. If you positon a game camera on a deer trail to acquire some photos of the deer in your area, are you not indeed now "shining" or"poaching"?
Come clean here, you can not have it one way or the other!
If you use fine optics to locate the entrance to a bedding area on a 200 yard bean field, are you not poaching? NO YOU Are using all available resources to scout the deer in youarea.
Wanna bet with me, I have watched many videos that upon the first few days in camp have "glassed" their deer of the prey doing the exact same ritual. That is how they determine where they set their locations.
Bringit on...
-Steve
IMO apples and oranges.
To me shining is used for nothing but entertainment. I believe it does no good in scouting, except it being the lazy and cheap way to take stock of deer in your area.
There is a huge problem with poaching. What is their main method? Shining. Its that simple. I agree, but to an extent.
OKAY, let's adjust our focus here. If you positon a game camera on a deer trail to acquire some photos of the deer in your area, are you not indeed now "shining" or"poaching"?
Come clean here, you can not have it one way or the other!
If you use fine optics to locate the entrance to a bedding area on a 200 yard bean field, are you not poaching? NO YOU Are using all available resources to scout the deer in youarea.
Wanna bet with me, I have watched many videos that upon the first few days in camp have "glassed" their deer of the prey doing the exact same ritual. That is how they determine where they set their locations.
Bringit on...
-Steve
Sorry GForce, your arguement really holds no water. The idea of comparing scouting cameras and optics to spotlights is ludacris.
Also, bring what on?
