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fetzeriiif 11-13-2006 01:54 PM

RE: near trespasing
 
I agree with Sylvan. As much as it may bother you, He is not on your property, so the only thing you should do is talk to him and ask him not to shoot deer on your side of the line. As for not letting him track deer that run onto your property, that goes both ways. You'ld hate to have a trophy that you shoot run to his side of the fence and be denied permission. That could easily happen if you deny him access.

Everyone is jumping on Mike, but he's not completely wrong. He could have said ita little nicer, but it is not really fair to try to control where others hunt on their own land. He pays the taxes on that land, right up to the fence, therefor he should be able to hunt right up to the fence. If you catch him tresspassing, then you have a right to complain.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the frustration. I have DNR land that borders my property. I often have people set up right on the other side of the fence. I don't like it, but they have as much right to hunt that land as I do to hunt mine. I try to save the real anger for those that I actually catch tresspassing.

cowboy4513 11-13-2006 02:00 PM

RE: near trespasing
 
I agree with everything you said excypt you shouldnt defend Mike you could totally tell the onte he used to a 17 year old kid hes a grade A ******* man go back and reread if you need to

manuman 11-13-2006 03:38 PM

RE: near trespasing
 

ORIGINAL: Sylvan

Crossing the border and changing how his stand is hung as manuman did is really foolish not to mention arrogant and illegal.

Considering that I had the okay from the game warden, whom I aided in having 2 poachers arrested the week before,I think you might want to be a little more careful before you make such insulting and baseless statements. I have had my entire season ruined to this point by poachers, and I would like to know how you, with such limited knowledge, jump to such a conclusion.First, I have 2 poachers trespassing during a bowhunt that claim to own the land I have permission from the actual owner, then a 9 pointer shot on the trail I was hunting with bow, with a .22 rifle the night before I found it, a gut pile left at a scrape that I had been hunting, and 2 tresspassers walk in, set up within 75 yards of me, while one goes to another part of the property and shoots a buck with a rifle, that he only wounds and I find it, back track it, and find the evidence needed for his arrest, have to ask 3 different tresspassers to leave on the opening day of gun season--all on land that I have exclusive rights to and bowhunt only. Add to that , that I had been closing in on a huge 10 pointer that I saw the week before, and was poised and ready after all of my hard work to close the deal.I put in 95% of my efforts for the entire season into this land, only to see it taken away by some very dishonest and disreputable slob hunters---and thenI go to my club in Greene county Ga, to find more of the same, take the necesarry and validated actions to rectify it, and you , with a very limited and uninformed perspective, want to call me 'illegal' and 'arrogant'!?!?I have the officers personal cell phone with me for just such occasions. I work hard and have put in a lot of time and money to have poachers steal from me. Then to add insult to injury, you come to a very self righteous and assumptive, not to mention wrong conclusion.

BackwoodsBuck 11-13-2006 03:39 PM

RE: near trespasing
 
I do not know this for a fact, but I have been told that in some states you have to be a certain distance from the property line, and you can not be facing the property line. This keeps someone from hunting a property they don't have permission to hunt. Look into that. But also be civil. Let him know that you do not want him hunting your land, but you would gladly let him track an animal on your land, and even help if he needs it, in return for him allowing you the same courtesy.

Just try to calmly address the situation first. And it might be better if your grandpa was there when you talked to him, being the landowner. Just a thought.

Sylvan 11-13-2006 04:26 PM

RE: near trespasing
 

ORIGINAL: manuman


ORIGINAL: Sylvan

Crossing the border and changing how his stand is hung as manuman did is really foolish not to mention arrogant and illegal.

Considering that I had the okay from the game warden, whom I aided in having 2 poachers arrested the week before,I think you might want to be a little more careful before you make such insulting and baseless statements. I have had my entire season ruined to this point by poachers, and I would like to know how you, with such limited knowledge, jump to such a conclusion.First, I have 2 poachers trespassing during a bowhunt that claim to own the land I have permission from the actual owner, then a 9 pointer shot on the trail I was hunting with bow, with a .22 rifle the night before I found it, a gut pile left at a scrape that I had been hunting, and 2 tresspassers walk in, set up within 75 yards of me, while one goes to another part of the property and shoots a buck with a rifle, that he only wounds and I find it, back track it, and find the evidence needed for his arrest, have to ask 3 different tresspassers to leave on the opening day of gun season--all on land that I have exclusive rights to and bowhunt only. Add to that , that I had been closing in on a huge 10 pointer that I saw the week before, and was poised and ready after all of my hard work to close the deal.I put in 95% of my efforts for the entire season into this land, only to see it taken away by some very dishonest and disreputable slob hunters---and thenI go to my club in Greene county Ga, to find more of the same, take the necesarry and validated actions to rectify it, and you , with a very limited and uninformed perspective, want to call me 'illegal' and 'arrogant'!?!?I have the officers personal cell phone with me for just such occasions. I work hard and have put in a lot of time and money to have poachers steal from me. Then to add insult to injury, you come to a very self righteous and assumptive, not to mention wrong conclusion.
I repeat, it is arrogant and illegal to go on to someones property without their permission and move a tree stand and if you are saying that a game warden gave you the o.k. to do it I simply don't believe you. A game warden has no right to give you permission to go on to private property, they know that and would nevertell you to do such a thing.

As far as making assumptions, I made none. I simply took what you siad at face value and you said what you did quite clearly.... "I have had my fill of this type of 'hunter' and others who go even further. This past wekend, I didn't see the number of deer I normally do from an area, so I did some investigating to find out why. i found 1 stand located very similar to the one described here, soI politley turned it the other direction, facing away from our property--with a note. " No assumptions necessary, you went on to someone elses property and turned a stand in a different direction. If I had caught you on my property up in one of my trees messing with one of my tree stands I would have had you arrested.

Man some people have a lot of nerve!



takedownfreak123 11-13-2006 04:58 PM

RE: near trespasing
 
I have the same problem. There are two different hunters hunting 5 feet looking towards my grandma's field. This past friday One hunter was hunting. I draged a scent trail right in front of him. Just to let him know iwas watching him. That night I shot a 4pt 60 yards from him witch died 100yards in front of him. TAlk about a bummer. Only if it was Mike Hill sitting in that stand that would have been the best.


pawn256 11-13-2006 07:01 PM

RE: near trespasing
 
My grandfather had several hundred acres of land that he liked to preserve (and had owned for many many years) Needless to say, there were probabally some nice deer in the area. He had a barb-wire fence around is land and no-tresspassing signs. I remember when I was younger and we would be out on his trails, if he found a stand on the property line facing his land (especially if the barb-wire was CUT nearby) he enjoyed relieving himself at the base of the stand. As a hunter, it seems a bit cruel, but not under the circumstances.

Mike Hill 11-14-2006 03:19 AM

RE: near trespasing
 
Well guys mabey I did come off too strong and I am sorry if if I did. But my problem and it happened the day I read this is that where I live in the peoples republic of Mass. is the Boston flight. 'which means all these folks from Boston are moving in and buying giant houses on postage stamp sized lots on the edge of the woods and think they own the whole area they mess with your truck while you are in the woods one day someone even left a not onmy truck saying leave our deer alone and cut down a tree across the acess road so I coulden't get out. And to me if you own it I respect it, If you don't leve me alone. If the guy is shooting on your property he's is definetly wrong. But if hes just close to the border then he is legeally doing nothing wrong and there is nothing you can do without getting yourself in trouble. So again if I came off too strong sorry but Belive me I'm having my problem with people wanting theirs plus more. Law enforcement sucks for hunters they basicly won't do nothing unless they see it happen but don't think they are going to patrol the acess roads to see it. The game wardens here are only interested in catching you doing something wrong so they can ticket you and they don't want to help in any way what so ever. I could go on and on but I'm sure by now you see where I'm comming from. and I got to go get on my stand.

manuman 11-14-2006 05:36 AM

RE: near trespasing
 
Exactly the response I anticipated. Now you insult me further by calling me a liar. Well, the only thing I can say is that you can maintain your pompous attitude and your incorrect assumptions--and stiil you are absolutely wrong. The officer's name is Joseph Temples here in Ga. Once again you assume, and that is exactly why you are baseless and incorrect in your assessment. Factsare what you need , rather than your faulty assumptions,and I supplied them for you, yet you continue with your self righteous gibberish. Talk about nerve! BTW, I wasn't 'up in one of anybody's trees'(assumption anyone)---the stand was at the base , hanging over a creek bank , which is the property line, and all I did was to face it the other way.Unless those deer an swim,it was pretty clear what he was doing, as his lease was solid planted pines just behind him.Here we have a man that is hunting over another man's lease, and that also has a stand 100 yards over the line at another point, who is stealing by his actions and you can only point to a misperceived 'infraction', of the law that was validated by a DNR officer, and you don't have the intestinal fortitude to admit that you are wrong.Some people's children! I could care less if someone with your attitude doesn't accept the truth--I did absolutely what I should and could. In fact, by Ga law I could have confiscated the man's stand, yet , I didn't so that whenI find him hunting there, I can return it to him. I removed the pins so that he, if he found it, couldn't use it. The note I left contained my cell phone number FYI, not that it will make any difference to you.If you need any further calrification, I will draw you a picture--maybe you can understand that, since words have no effect.

NY Bowhunter 11-14-2006 06:15 AM

RE: near trespasing
 

Everyone is jumping on Mike, but he's not completely wrong. He could have said ita little nicer, but it is not really fair to try to control where others hunt on their own land. He pays the taxes on that land, right up to the fence, therefor he should be able to hunt right up to the fence. If you catch him tresspassing, then you have a right to complain.
I agree. Mike isn't really wrong with what he said. What are you going to do when you approach the guy? Tell him to move his stand off his property? As far as not letting the guy track a deer onto your property? That's pathetic IMO. With your reasoning you should be dropping every deer in their tracks so they NEVER go onto a neighboring property. Keep good relations with your fellow hunters and neighboring landowners. Work together and everyone will be better off in the long run.

A lot of times boundary lines happen to be seperated by field edges, land terrain, etc.... which happen to make up good natural funnels and travel routes. I've noticed a lot of hunting on edges of property because it's good hunting.


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