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Old 09-03-2006, 11:31 PM
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I have taken 9 elk with the 180gr ballistic tip out of my 300ultramags with a muzzle velocity of 3340fps..

I have taken abouttwo dozendeer,bighorn and pronghorn with the 140gr ballistic tip out of my 7mmstw with a muzzle velocity of 3500fps.

To date,not one bullet failure and not one animal covered 50 yards after being hit.Accuracy in all rifles is 1/2 moa or better.

That being said,I now use the tsx in my 300ultramagsfor elk.Nearly the sameaccuracy and much better penetration on heavy bones.However I still use the 140gr ballistic tip in my 7mmstws for deer sized game.
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Old 09-03-2006, 11:44 PM
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As long as you use the heavier per caliber BT's you won't have a problem. The problem with the old bt's was fixed long ago. I have shot about 40 mule deer with them in calibers from the 250 Savage to the 300 Win Mag. Not a single bullet failure. I had a few come apart in the 7 Mag 10 years ago or so. But they have been redesigned so that the lighter ones are made for varmiting and the heavier ones for big game.
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Old 09-04-2006, 12:14 AM
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I have taken 9 elk with the 180gr ballistic tip out of my 300ultramags with a muzzle velocity of 3340fps..

I have taken abouttwo dozendeer,bighorn and pronghorn with the 140gr ballistic tip out of my 7mmstw with a muzzle velocity of 3500fps.

To date,not one bullet failure and not one animal covered 50 yards after being hit.Accuracy in all rifles is 1/2 moa or better.

That being said,I now use the tsx in my 300ultramagsfor elk.Nearly the sameaccuracy and much better penetration on heavy bones.However I still use the 140gr ballistic tip in my 7mmstws for deer sized game.
How many we're pass thru? How many we're pass thru with bone contact? J/W.
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Old 09-04-2006, 12:53 AM
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I use the 150 bst with my 270 wsm and they shoot great!! all were pass thruogh shots....Great bullets
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:49 AM
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Personally I don't prefer ballistic tips, When I first started hunting I shot a moose with a 165 grain ballistic tip at close range with my 30-06 andhit a little far forward hitting the frontleg/shoulder. The bullet exploded upon impact and breaking the one shoulder but had no penetration thus not being a fatal hit which allowed the animal to run. I was fortunateenough totrack and finish the animal but based on this poor experience I will not use the ballistic tip for hunting again. One could argue good shot placement is the key butin any big game animal there is alot of heavy bone and muscle and not always text book shot opportunities or maybe just a little "buck or moose in this case fever" Since then I have used the bonded bullets such as accubond,interbond and sirrocco and have had excellent results with all at long and close range .There plastic tip and boattail design also help withaccuracy as well. But that's just my opinion.
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Old 09-04-2006, 10:14 AM
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- wonder why BT's get the rap they do[:'(]!

All I'll say is fellas/ladies pick the right bullet for the job and you will not be disappointed. Accuracy is always part of the equation but not the only part, bullet design(intended use)&hunting situation(game, range,etc)should also factor in onwhich bullet to load.

Anthony, 20 plus deer and 4 antelope I have shot with the BT, all but 1 have exited the animal. The one that did not was all my fault as I yanked the shot flush into the shoulder at close range (130/.277), as one would expect the result with this style of bullet was very fast expansion which led to reduced penetration. The shoulder was broken but knowing I screwed up I stayed off the animal and let him set up. I tagged my whitetail buck with no troubles as the bullet did enough to take out one lung via bone/bullet frags and produced a good trail. Shooter failure not bullet!
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Old 09-04-2006, 11:57 AM
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I would say that about 3/4 of the ballistic tips exited.It should be noted that there are great differences between ballistic tips even in the same caliber.For instance the jacket on the 180gr .308" ballistic tip has been thickened several times and it is much thicker than that of the 165gr .308" ballistic tip.I have sectioned old 180ballistic tips,new ones and the 180gr accubond and the new 180gr ballistic tip has the same jacket thickness as the accubond.The very old ones have a jacket about half as thick towards the rear of the bullet.These differences are what causes much of the confusion surrounding the ballistic tip.The newer ballistic tips are a much different bullet than the earlier versions,but many people still don't trust them because of experiences with the early versions.
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Old 09-04-2006, 12:03 PM
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I'm one of the ones who had trouble with the earlier onesI'm afraid to try them again. I take quartering shots thru shoulders sometimes and hit bone at times. If the new BT's in the heavier cal bullets are thickened up now then I'd say theyll work fine. I use smaller weight foe cal bulllets so I think I'll hold on to the accubond. The only difference between accubons and BT is that the jacket on the accubond is molecularly bonded to the core to prevent core/jacket separation. The BT is not bonded the same way, but for example, you will get sililar results with a 140 accubond or 160 BT in a 7mm. With the 160 BT probably leaving a wider path.
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:29 PM
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but for example, you will get sililar results with a 140 accubond or 160 BT in a 7mm.
The faster moving 140gr accubond will still expand very rapidly,it will just hold together better.As such,it could leave an even larger wound channel than the slower moving 160gr bullet.By the way nosler doesn't make a 160 gr ballistic tip.
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Old 09-04-2006, 06:27 PM
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My brother uses the Win Supreme 168gr BST, and man...it does a job on deer like no other!

I've used 45-70, 44 mag, 270, 7 mag, 30-30, 30-08, 308, 50 Cal Muzzle Loader and 12 ga, and the 30-06 168 BST always outperforms all the others
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