RE: Ethical question,
 

10,000 acres,canned hunt "no way" I hunt a club of 20,000 acres and have for the past 15 years and still have no been on all of it.as for the fences,if it was mine and could afford it I would put up the fence.with out it you can not control the trasspassers.some people just can't read when it says posted.
tell your brother-in-law to go for it,and don't worry what some people say.


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RE: Ethical question,
 

People that have huge hunks of land for hunting ,fence the area more to keep out unwanted hunters then to intrap the deer for there shooting pleasure. Untill some of you actually hunted these type states you wouldn't understand. If you had a 10,000 acre money tree farm would you fence it? Thats what that property is to the owners a income a livelyhood. Im not saying paying someone to hunt there property is for everyone ,but if it was your occupation Im sure you would not want someone stealing it from you.I'm commenting because I have hunted 10,000 acres of fenced property in Texas and I never seen the fence and did not even get the size deer I wanted,went home empty handed.When you go away tonight leave your house doors wide open so everyone that drives by can see all your neat stuff inside. But when it is stolen dont complain. Thats what your asking the owners of quality deer property to do with out fences around a 10,000 acre ranch.I think if you had millions invested in the property and 1000's of hours spent building a quality deer herd you wouldn't let it open for people to rape.

Edited by - cardeer on 01/13/2002 04:10:41

RE: Ethical question,
 

Is it a canned hunt? No. In a canned hunt, all 4 of the hunters would have killed out. Canned hunts are guaranteed kill.

Is it a fair chase hunt? Absolutely, we are talking about over 15 square miles of land and you should see the brush in South Texas.

This hunt is legal and ethical. Anybody who would have a problem with this being a fair chase hunt better get out of their ivory tower (or tower of envy).

The only legitimate complaint someone might have is that the state of Texas (the people) do own the deer and does a landowner have the right to fence in public property. However, the property right laws back the landowner on this one.

I would never, ever go on a canned hunt. However, if this ranch invites me to go hunting, I'm going!

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yes....the deer are fenced in...you paid big bucks to hunt the land...the land wasnt hunted in 8 years...you guys shot tiny bucks if the land wasnt hunted AT ALL in 8 years...there would be bucks dying every year from old age! and monsters everywhere!!!i think they lied...if you guys only seen 10pts and less..the land owners had to get big bucks each year...or you didnt have to hunt hard for your deer

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Pope and Young club Fair Chase rule #3
No animal taken behind the confines of a fence shall be considered fair chase.

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I don't call anything behind a fence hunting, but harvesting. Doesn't matter how many acres there are. If that deer wants to be on the other side of that fence and can't then I ain't gonna hunt after the animal because it's not fair chase.
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For those who think this is a canned hunt, my question is "do you even realize what 10,000 acres is?"
It is about 15 square miles, I'll say it again, f-i-f-t-e-e-n s-q-u-a--r-e m-i-l-e-s!
That is not exactly a feeder pen!
The main reason for the fence is to keep out the freebies. There is a lot of money invested in these ranches so, yes it is a big business. However the main reason that they are able to kill that many deer is not because of the fence, but because South Texas and the Texas Hill Country regions produce that many deer.
I have not had the money or the opportunity to hunt any of these ranches, but I would not condemn those who can afford to hunt these places. There is a big difference between a canned hunt and a fenced hunting ranch! As hunters we should stick together, instead of condemn other peoples hunting methods just because they are not the same methods we use. If it is legal, then it isn't an ethical issue!