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plight of the Southern Deer
In a recently released study found in the new England Journal of Medicine their seems to be a link between illiteracy and the venison that southerners are eating.
It actually goes way back to the days when North America had very little humanoid activity. The deer in what is now florida were forced there over time by the superior dominant northern deer. THey have lived there in a less than ideal environment for thousands of years. This is why the key deer are so small. And the further NORTH you go in the satate the deer get bigger and more educated. But do to the poor quality of life and the horrible ecosystem even the Northern most Floridian deer are subsistant at best. THis long term deffinciency in diet and environment has caused the deer to become very unintelligent and is creating a further downward spiral as they have become so dumb they can do no more than eat enough food not to starve. You may say this is not a big deal, but scientists beg to differ. As you move north through our country you find that the education systems and literacy rates climb on the way. This is not coincedence. Recent studies have proven that southerners who eat unitelligent deer are being dumbed down by the Venison. Researchers point to a tiny microbial deffinciency called a PION. These are more prevelant in the South and have proven to numb ones mind upon ingestion. According to the researchers the only treatment for this is to stop shooting inferior deer and move as far north as you can. THere was however a bright lining for those of you in the midwest. WIth the superior genetics of Midwestern deer to that of their southern neighbors and there prominant physical stature. It seems that the deer that run the farmland of the midwest are considered immune to PIONS and will simply stand there and FLEX, No emotion , No Sound Just flex and the PIONS will go back to FLorida. THis is a very serious matter and is a fact. I suggest that Floridians and other southerners who still have the capacity for logical thought move while you can! |
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"THis is a srious matter....."
Oh no B&C, I think you've got it too! |
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LMAO B&C
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ORIGINAL: jr101 "THis is a srious matter....." Oh no B&C, I think you've got it too! I can fix a typo but you cant fix stupid. |
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B&C, lets see, where are you from? I believe you said your from Kentucky, which I think is considered the SOUTH! So I guess you are just adumb southern boy like the rest of us down here, huh? Guess what, I bet these dumb southern deer taste just as good as your intelligent northern ones. Quit knocking southern hunters and southern deer just because you are pissed off at one redneck.
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ORIGINAL: superstrutter B&C, lets see, where are you from? I believe you said your from Kentucky, which I think is considered the SOUTH! So I guess you are just adumb southern boy like the rest of us down here, huh? Guess what, I bet these dumb southern deer taste just as good as your intelligent northern ones. Quit knocking southern hunters and southern deer just because you are pissed off at one redneck. Get some thicker skin |
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I'll never forget the night in 1992 when Clinton was elected President. My dad looked at me indisgustand said "This just proves the rest of the country is as dumb as we are in Arkansas."
C. Davis |
RE: plight of the Southern Deer
ORIGINAL: B&C Wanna B In a recently released study found in the new England Journal of Medicine their seems to be a link between illiteracy and the venison that southerners are eating. It actually goes way back to the days when North America had very little humanoid activity. The deer in what is now florida were forced there over time by the superior dominant northern deer. THey have lived there in a less than ideal environment for thousands of years. This is why the key deer are so small. And the further NORTH you go in the satate the deer get bigger and more educated. But do to the poor quality of life and the horrible ecosystem even the Northern most Floridian deer are subsistant at best. THis long term deffinciency in diet and environment has caused the deer to become very unintelligent and is creating a further downward spiral as they have become so dumb they can do no more than eat enough food not to starve. You may say this is not a big deal, but scientists beg to differ. As you move north through our country you find that the education systems and literacy rates climb on the way. This is not coincedence. Recent studies have proven that southerners who eat unitelligent deer are being dumbed down by the Venison. Researchers point to a tiny microbial deffinciency called a PION. These are more prevelant in the South and have proven to numb ones mind upon ingestion. According to the researchers the only treatment for this is to stop shooting inferior deer and move as far north as you can. THere was however a bright lining for those of you in the midwest. WIth the superior genetics of Midwestern deer to that of their southern neighbors and there prominant physical stature. It seems that the deer that run the farmland of the midwest are considered immune to PIONS and will simply stand there and FLEX, No emotion , No Sound Just flex and the PIONS will go back to FLorida. THis is a very serious matter and is a fact. I suggest that Floridians and other southerners who still have the capacity for logical thought move while you can! |
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Dude, it's way more than just typos. You are trying to call Southerners illiterates; yet, you're a borderline illiterate yourself. If you want to insult Southerners, at least proofread your stuff... Here is a quick rehash of your little essay. Corrections and comments are in brackets.
ORIGINAL: B&C Wanna B In a recently released study found in the new [New]England Journal of Medicine[,] their [there] seems to be a link between illiteracy and the venison that southerners [Southerners] are eating. It actually goes way back to the days when North America had very little humanoid activity. The deer in what is now florida [Florida] were forced there over time by the superior[,] dominant northern deer. THey[They] have lived there in a less than ideal environment for thousands of years. This is why the key deer are so small. And[,] the furtherNORTH you go in the satate[state,] the deer get bigger and more educated.[For structural reasons, the second half of this sentence should read "the bigger and more educated the deer get."] But[,] do [due]to the poor quality of life and the horrible ecosystem[,] even the Northern most [Northernmost]Floridian deer are subsistant [subsistent]at best. THis [This] long term deffinciency [deficiency] in diet and environment has caused the deer to become very unintelligent and is creating a further downward spiral as they have become so dumb they can do no more than eat enough food not to starve. You may say this is not a big deal, but[,] scientists beg to differ. As you move north through our country[,] you find that the education systems and literacy rates climb on the way. This is not coincedence [coincidence]. Recent studies have proven that southerners [Southerners]who eat unitelligent deer are being dumbed down by the Venison [venison]. Researchers point to a tiny microbial deffinciency [deficiency (again...so you can't claim typo)] called a PION [do you mean peon?]. [If there are microbes called peons in the venison, why is this a microbial deficiency? A deficiency would mean that these microbes are missing. Or are you asserting that there are more peons in the North?] These are more prevelant [prevalent] in the South [hmmm... apparently you were trying to say there are more in the South...]and have proven to numb ones [one's] mind upon ingestion. According to the researchers[,] the only treatment for this is to stop shooting inferior deer and move as far north as you can. THere [There] was[,] however[,] a bright lining for those of you in the midwest [Midwest]. WIth [With]the superior genetics of Midwestern deer to that of their southern neighbors and there [their] prominant [prominent]physical stature. [sentence fragment] It seems that the deer that run the farmland of the midwest [Midwest]are considered immune to PIONS [peons] and will simply stand there and FLEX, No emotion , No Sound Just flex and the PIONS [peons]will go back to FLorida [Florida].[What kind of sentence is this? There must be some punctuation missing.] THis [This] is a very serious matter and is a fact. I suggest that Floridians[,] and other southerners [Southerners] who still have the capacity for logical thought[,] move while you can! |
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This may all be true...........Ive been thinking about it.......Florida deer are small........Ive never hunted there..........but as for the south as a whole??????
I know texas has more deer than almost any other state in the country. Texas produces as many B&C bucks as any state in the country. But thats not to say Northern deer don't contribute.......Northern deer have contributed plenty........like CWD. |
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ORIGINAL: texas8point This may all be true...........Ive been thinking about it.......Florida deer are small........Ive never hunted there..........but as for the south as a whole?????? I know texas has more deer than almost any other state in the country. Texas produces as many B&C bucks as any state in the country. But thats not to say Northern deer don't contribute.......Northern deer have contributed plenty........like CWD. |
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ORIGINAL: ipscshooter Dude, it's way more than just typos. You are trying to call Southerners illiterates; yet, you're a borderline illiterate yourself. If you want to insult Southerners, at least proofread your stuff... Here is a quick rehash of your little essay. Corrections and comments are in brackets. ORIGINAL: B&C Wanna B In a recently released study found in the new [New]England Journal of Medicine[,] their [there] seems to be a link between illiteracy and the venison that southerners [Southerners] are eating. It actually goes way back to the days when North America had very little humanoid activity. The deer in what is now florida [Florida] were forced there over time by the superior[,] dominant northern deer. THey[They] have lived there in a less than ideal environment for thousands of years. This is why the key deer are so small. And[,] the furtherNORTH you go in the satate[state,] the deer get bigger and more educated.[For structural reasons, the second half of this sentence should read "the bigger and more educated the deer get."] But[,] do [due]to the poor quality of life and the horrible ecosystem[,] even the Northern most [Northernmost]Floridian deer are subsistant [subsistent]at best. THis [This] long term deffinciency [deficiency] in diet and environment has caused the deer to become very unintelligent and is creating a further downward spiral as they have become so dumb they can do no more than eat enough food not to starve. You may say this is not a big deal, but[,] scientists beg to differ. As you move north through our country[,] you find that the education systems and literacy rates climb on the way. This is not coincedence [coincidence]. Recent studies have proven that southerners [Southerners]who eat unitelligent deer are being dumbed down by the Venison [venison]. Researchers point to a tiny microbial deffinciency [deficiency (again...so you can't claim typo)] called a PION [do you mean peon?]. [If there are microbes called peons in the venison, why is this a microbial deficiency? A deficiency would mean that these microbes are missing. Or are you asserting that there are more peons in the North?] These are more prevelant [prevalent] in the South [hmmm... apparently you were trying to say there are more in the South...]and have proven to numb ones [one's] mind upon ingestion. According to the researchers[,] the only treatment for this is to stop shooting inferior deer and move as far north as you can. THere [There] was[,] however[,] a bright lining for those of you in the midwest [Midwest]. WIth [With]the superior genetics of Midwestern deer to that of their southern neighbors and there [their] prominant [prominent]physical stature. [sentence fragment] It seems that the deer that run the farmland of the midwest [Midwest]are considered immune to PIONS [peons] and will simply stand there and FLEX, No emotion , No Sound Just flex and the PIONS [peons]will go back to FLorida [Florida].[What kind of sentence is this? There must be some punctuation missing.] THis [This] is a very serious matter and is a fact. I suggest that Floridians[,] and other southerners [Southerners] who still have the capacity for logical thought[,] move while you can! If it were poorly crafted you wouldn't have attacked my penmanship, you would have come up with somthing original. Desperate times call for attacking ones typing prowess. Good try, but that meat is rotting your brain. |
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Just to be OCD again...
ORIGINAL: B&C Wanna B I don[']t need to proof read [proofread][.]I leave that to ocd people such as yourself. I find it funny that you guys get a kick out of TWDD but then when you are the object of a joke you take it all serious. That my friend is called hypocrasy [hypocrisy]! If it were poorly crafted[,] you wouldn't have attacked my penmanship [It wasn't penmanship that I was attacking. It was poor spelling, punctuation and grammar.], you would have come up with somthing[something] original. Desperate times call for attacking ones [one's]typing prowess.[Again, nothing to do with typing prowess.] Good try, but that meat is rotting your brain. I go to a lot of different hunting forums. I see an excessive number of posts, on all of them,that have the same problems with spelling and grammar. Unfortunately, everyone else can see it, too. It really plays into the anti-hunting crowd's image of hunters as a bunch of uneducated rednecks. The problem is far more prevalent in hunting forums than in the automotive enthusiast forums or the martial arts forums that I also frequent. What kind of image does this project to newbies who might be coming here because they might havean interest intaking up hunting?Before you hit the "OK" button, take a quick look at what you've written. |
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ORIGINAL: texas8point Texas produces as many B&C bucks as any state in the country. But thats not to say Northern deer don't contribute.......Northern deer have contributed plenty........like CWD. CWD will be headed your way as well, wait and see. |
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ORIGINAL: ipscshooter Just to be OCD again... ORIGINAL: B&C Wanna B I don[']t need to proof read [proofread][.]I leave that to ocd people such as yourself. I find it funny that you guys get a kick out of TWDD but then when you are the object of a joke you take it all serious. That my friend is called hypocrasy [hypocrisy]! If it were poorly crafted[,] you wouldn't have attacked my penmanship [It wasn't penmanship that I was attacking. It was poor spelling, punctuation and grammar.], you would have come up with somthing[something] original. Desperate times call for attacking ones [one's]typing prowess.[Again, nothing to do with typing prowess.] Good try, but that meat is rotting your brain. I go to a lot of different hunting forums. I see an excessive number of posts, on all of them,that have the same problems with spelling and grammar. Unfortunately, everyone else can see it, too. It really plays into the anti-hunting crowd's image of hunters as a bunch of uneducated rednecks. The problem is far more prevalent in hunting forums than in the automotive enthusiast forums or the martial arts forums that I also frequent. What kind of image does this project to newbies who might be coming here because they might havean interest intaking up hunting?Before you hit the "OK" button, take a quick look at what you've written. I commend you for your concern over the well being of the hunting community. However, that should be the least of your worries when the stereotypical image of a hunter isn’t that of illiteracy but violence and racism. We are portrayed as bigoted, dip spitting, truck driving rednecks. I guess it has been a while since I have needed to concentrate on grammar. In fact it has been roughly 4 years since I graduated from college with honors. I too am guilty of not portraying that image of hunters who are educated. For that, I apologize and promise to make a conscious effort to better the image of hunters through using larger vocabulary and proper punctuation. I am almost stunned that people are seriously arguing the quality of southern deer with me. The deeper issues are staring you in the face and you cant see through the sarcasm to save yourself. |
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ORIGINAL: texas8point This may all be true...........Ive been thinking about it.......Florida deer are small........Ive never hunted there..........but as for the south as a whole?????? I know texas has more deer than almost any other state in the country. Texas produces as many B&C bucks as any state in the country. But thats not to say Northern deer don't contribute.......Northern deer have contributed plenty........like CWD. Northern deer have contributed plenty........like CWD. |
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My apologies if I came off too harshly. I usually skip TWDD's posts, so I'm not familiar with those that may include personal attacks, as opposed to the usual "our deer are better than yours, nyeah nyeah nyeah..."
I also haven't seen the Bigfoot post. I've never really focused on the perception of hunters as racists before, although I have noticed that propensity in a couple of the guys on the lease I hunt. The image I've always heard, obviouslyuntrue,is that we are just a bunch beer swilling dumb rednecks... |
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ORIGINAL: GregH ORIGINAL: texas8point Texas produces as many B&C bucks as any state in the country. But thats not to say Northern deer don't contribute.......Northern deer have contributed plenty........like CWD. CWD will be headed your way as well, wait and see. 1. Alabama 535,000 1. Wisconsin 25 2. Wisconsin 517,169 2. Illinois 21 3. Georgia 484,000 3. Kentucky 15 4. Michigan 453,000 4. Texas 14 5. Texas 433,387 5. Iowa 12 * 2005 figures[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Is it 170" to make B&C? There were a LOT more than 14 170" B&C deer taken in Texas last year. But, a LOT of Texas private hunting acreage has been high-fenced, and those deer don't qualify for B&C, even if the fence is around 200,000 acres. Take a look at these from 2005-2006. http://www.loscazadores.com/contest/leaderboard.html There are at least 51 bucks over 180" on that page.[/align] |
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Texas has some great deer. The only problem is they don't have very good mass, unless they are raised in a 20 by 20 pen. Bottom line is northern deer are larger than southern deer. There are more deer in the south than in the north. A southern deer is just as wary as a northern deer, unless they were raised in a 20 by 20 pen. Southern deer taste just as good as northern deer, unless they were raised in a 20 by 20 pen, then they are better. I love chasing the elusive southern White-tailed deer, even if I'm just an illiterate southern redneck. Guess what B&C, there are some really great literate people down here in the south that love to hunt deer ethically and legally. Come on back home and find out.
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ORIGINAL: superstrutter Texas has some great deer. The only problem is they don't have very good mass, unless they are raised in a 20 by 20 pen. Bottom line is northern deer are larger than southern deer. There are more deer in the south than in the north. A southern deer is just as wary as a northern deer, unless they were raised in a 20 by 20 pen. Southern deer taste just as good as northern deer, unless they were raised in a 20 by 20 pen, then they are better. I love chasing the elusive southern White-tailed deer, even if I'm just an illiterate southern redneck. Guess what B&C, there are some really great literate people down here in the south that love to hunt deer ethically and legally. Come on back home and find out. Lawyers Professors Bank President Arts and Cultural Manager for Henderson County Investment advisor etc etc I really shouldn't have gone so radical in my response to TDWW. I am sorry for perpetuating teh southern illiterate sterotype. |
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Are we having fun yet? I know I am.:D
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I'm really not offended. It's all fun. Why did you decide to go up north? It can't be because of the weather.
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ORIGINAL: superstrutter Texas has some great deer. The only problem is they don't have very good mass, unless they are raised in a 20 by 20 pen. Bottom line is northern deer are larger than southern deer. There are more deer in the south than in the north. A southern deer is just as wary as a northern deer, unless they were raised in a 20 by 20 pen. Southern deer taste just as good as northern deer, unless they were raised in a 20 by 20 pen, then they are better. I love chasing the elusive southern White-tailed deer, even if I'm just an illiterate southern redneck. Guess what B&C, there are some really great literate people down here in the south that love to hunt deer ethically and legally. Come on back home and find out. Here are a few Texas bucks that were taken off "low-fence" ranches. http://www.loscazadores.com/contest/2005/D1/places.html The 238" buck is 10 inches bigger than any of the "high-fence" bucks last year. |
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My Father worked for Alcan Aluminum and we were transfered to Cleveland, and then eventually Oswego, NY. I married and procriated here and just haven't gotten the urge to leave.I have a few business ventures that could prove to be very lucrative. IF they do indeed pan out rest assured I will be splitting time between the North and South.
ORIGINAL: superstrutter I'm really not offended. It's all fun. Why did you decide to go up north? It can't be because of the weather. |
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Come on ipscshooter, you know as well as everyone else does, that a wild free ranging Texas deer is not going to be that massive. These so called high or low fence deer are fed by humans. That is why they are larger. How many ranches let their deer live strictly off the native forage? If they did this they would go broke. If they did this then Texas deer would have some of the most puny racks in the country. Texas deer hunting is all about money. Maybe not all of it but most of it is. I have nothing against Texas deer or Texas deer hunters. It's just that most of Texas caters to high paying clients who want to put an easy trophy on the wall. There is a whole lot more to deer hunting than this. And remember, I'm not pointing a finger at all Texas deer hunters or landowners. I was just being a little sarcastic about the 20 by 20 pen. I hope you don't take all of this the wrong way.
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Are you familiar with the native forage in Texas? Is there something inherently wrong with supplemental feeding? Are you suggesting that Texas is the only place that does it? Where I hunt, the "native forage" consists of cactus and mesquite and a scattering of live oaks. Drought conditions for the last two years have really hurt things bad. A little supplemental feeding helps the deer stay healthy. They don't need it in places like Illinois or Nebraska where the entire state is planted in soybeans, corn and wheat.
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So you are agreeing with me. Without help Texas deer are puny. I didn't say there is anything wrong with supplemental feeding, but in most of Texas it's not supplemental, it's close to 100% of their diet. The largest deer in Texas are on high paying take what you want ranches. I do understand there is not as much natural vegetation in most of Texas as there is in just about any other state. Your just not going to see very many good racks outside of these ranches. If the ranches were not there, there would still be deer, right? These deer would be small with below average racks. I'm not about to pay thousands of dollars to be asked which one do you want to shoot. That is what most of Texas is all about. I know all states offer hunts like that, but Texas is the king of the cater to the rich hunts. I guess they got to do what they got to do.
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You really can't blame the ranchers. They make almost as much money from their hunting operations as they do raising cattle.
I really don't know whether supplemental feeding impacts on antler development as much as increasing the carrying capacity of the land.From what I've heard, "deer corn" doesn't really have a huge nutritionalimpact. Planting food plots with certain types of forbs andother plants does have big impact, but, how is that any different than deer browsing in the soybean fields of Illinois? That's not natural forageeither.The ranch I hunt costs under $2500 per year each for about 10 hunters, on 1800 acres, with limits of 3 bucks and 4 does per lease slot. I don't think that's really a "caters only to the rich" lease. Most of the guys are blue collar. And I think that price is fairly representative of the norm. Obviously there are higher priced leases in areas of the state (i.e. South Texas) where the deer are quite a lot larger. |
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Who would've thought that a civil war could break out over
deer herds? |
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ORIGINAL: ipscshooter Dude, it's way more than just typos. You are trying to call Southerners illiterates; yet, you're a borderline illiterate yourself. If you want to insult Southerners, at least proofread your stuff... Here is a quick rehash of your little essay. Corrections and comments are in brackets. ORIGINAL: B&C Wanna B In a recently released study found in the new [New]England Journal of Medicine[,] their [there] seems to be a link between illiteracy and the venison that southerners [Southerners] are eating. It actually goes way back to the days when North America had very little humanoid activity. The deer in what is now florida [Florida] were forced there over time by the superior[,] dominant northern deer. THey[They] have lived there in a less than ideal environment for thousands of years. This is why the key deer are so small. And[,] the furtherNORTH you go in the satate[state,] the deer get bigger and more educated.[For structural reasons, the second half of this sentence should read "the bigger and more educated the deer get."] But[,] do [due]to the poor quality of life and the horrible ecosystem[,] even the Northern most [Northernmost]Floridian deer are subsistant [subsistent]at best. THis [This] long term deffinciency [deficiency] in diet and environment has caused the deer to become very unintelligent and is creating a further downward spiral as they have become so dumb they can do no more than eat enough food not to starve. You may say this is not a big deal, but[,] scientists beg to differ. As you move north through our country[,] you find that the education systems and literacy rates climb on the way. This is not coincedence [coincidence]. Recent studies have proven that southerners [Southerners]who eat unitelligent deer are being dumbed down by the Venison [venison]. Researchers point to a tiny microbial deffinciency [deficiency (again...so you can't claim typo)] called a PION [do you mean peon?]. [If there are microbes called peons in the venison, why is this a microbial deficiency? A deficiency would mean that these microbes are missing. Or are you asserting that there are more peons in the North?] These are more prevelant [prevalent] in the South [hmmm... apparently you were trying to say there are more in the South...]and have proven to numb ones [one's] mind upon ingestion. According to the researchers[,] the only treatment for this is to stop shooting inferior deer and move as far north as you can. THere [There] was[,] however[,] a bright lining for those of you in the midwest [Midwest]. WIth [With]the superior genetics of Midwestern deer to that of their southern neighbors and there [their] prominant [prominent]physical stature. [sentence fragment] It seems that the deer that run the farmland of the midwest [Midwest]are considered immune to PIONS [peons] and will simply stand there and FLEX, No emotion , No Sound Just flex and the PIONS [peons]will go back to FLorida [Florida].[What kind of sentence is this? There must be some punctuation missing.] THis [This] is a very serious matter and is a fact. I suggest that Floridians[,] and other southerners [Southerners] who still have the capacity for logical thought[,] move while you can! |
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Okay ipscshooter, there is a differencebetween a pay out your butt shoot that deer ifyou like him ranch and a few guys getting together and leasing a place. I would consider doing that myself. In fact I went turkey hunting on a lease in Texaslast year. Don't get me wrong, I think Texas is one of the neatest places to hunt. I just don't like the idea of these high paying ranches, but I do understand ranchers wanting to earn extra money. Many of the deer hunting videos are on these ranches, not just in Texas, and it is a joke. Where is your lease located? What is the quality of your deer, truthfully?
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The lease I've been hunting is in the Texas Hill Country, not too far from Fredericksburg,west of Austin, north of San Antonio. The deer tend not to get much past 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 years old, as I don't think the neighbors have management in mind, other than an "if it's brown, it's down" policy. We try not to take anything less than 3 1/2 years old. We'd like to get them older, but we then tend to lose them to the neighbors Bucks last year averaged about 150 lbs. The biggest was about 180ish. Antler size was pretty weak last year because of the drought. In good years, we get bucks in the 130-140 class. Does generally run around 100 lbs. Hill Country deer are quite a bit smaller, but more numerous, than deer in other parts of the state.
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Someone sent me a PM and asked me, "TDWW, do I sense some animousity toward you from some of these Yankee hunters on the board?"
I honestly do not think it is animosity. I think all the guys on theboard are all quite intelligent and they certainly are good conservatives. It is not necessarily jealousy but I think it is whimsical fascination. I have long said that we all are born with certain innate God-Given talents. How we use those talents, or don't use them, is what is important. I was born with the ability to pursue whitetail deer and to have the vision of growth and development of the overall herd as well as the ability to see things better than anyone and, more importantly, to see things that others miss. That is why I am able to analyzethings so well and understand wildlife, people who pursue wildlife, events that may or may not have an effect on the presence of the wildlife management movement, and trends to look for. I think that is where some feel something close to jealousy but I would not use that word. The guys on theboard may be Yanks, but mostare good guys. |
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ORIGINAL: ipscshooter ORIGINAL: GregH ORIGINAL: texas8point Texas produces as many B&C bucks as any state in the country. But thats not to say Northern deer don't contribute.......Northern deer have contributed plenty........like CWD. CWD will be headed your way as well, wait and see. 1. Alabama 535,000 1. Wisconsin 25 2. Wisconsin 517,169 2. Illinois 21 3. Georgia 484,000 3. Kentucky 15 4. Michigan 453,000 4. Texas 14 5. Texas 433,387 5. Iowa 12 * 2005 figures[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Is it 170" to make B&C? There were a LOT more than 14 170" B&C deer taken in Texas last year. But, a LOT of Texas private hunting acreage has been high-fenced, and those deer don't qualify for B&C, even if the fence is around 200,000 acres. Take a look at these from 2005-2006. http://www.loscazadores.com/contest/leaderboard.html There are at least 51 bucks over 180" on that page.[/align] |
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ORIGINAL: GregH ORIGINAL: ipscshooter ORIGINAL: GregH ORIGINAL: texas8point Texas produces as many B&C bucks as any state in the country. But thats not to say Northern deer don't contribute.......Northern deer have contributed plenty........like CWD. CWD will be headed your way as well, wait and see. 1. Alabama 535,000 1. Wisconsin 25 2. Wisconsin 517,169 2. Illinois 21 3. Georgia 484,000 3. Kentucky 15 4. Michigan 453,000 4. Texas 14 5. Texas 433,387 5. Iowa 12 * 2005 figures[/align][align=left][/align][align=left]Is it 170" to make B&C? There were a LOT more than 14 170" B&C deer taken in Texas last year. But, a LOT of Texas private hunting acreage has been high-fenced, and those deer don't qualify for B&C, even if the fence is around 200,000 acres. Take a look at these from 2005-2006. http://www.loscazadores.com/contest/leaderboard.html There are at least 51 bucks over 180" on that page.[/align] |
RE: plight of the Southern Deer
ORIGINAL: TOPDAWGWOOFWOOF Someone sent me a PM and asked me, "TDWW, do I sense some animousity toward you from some of these Yankee hunters on the board?" I honestly do not think it is animosity. I think all the guys on theboard are all quite intelligent and they certainly are good conservatives. It is not necessarily jealousy but I think it is whimsical fascination. I have long said that we all are born with certain innate God-Given talents. How we use those talents, or don't use them, is what is important. I was born with the ability to pursue whitetail deer and to have the vision of growth and development of the overall herd as well as the ability to see things better than anyone and, more importantly, to see things that others miss. That is why I am able to analyzethings so well and understand wildlife, people who pursue wildlife, events that may or may not have an effect on the presence of the wildlife management movement, and trends to look for. I think that is where some feel something close to jealousy but I would not use that word. The guys on theboard may be Yanks, but mostare good guys. |
RE: plight of the Southern Deer
Who would've thought that a civil war could break out over deer herds? |
RE: plight of the Southern Deer
So you are agreeing with me. Without help Texas deer are puny. |
RE: plight of the Southern Deer
who cares if its a northern deer or southern deer i could care less a whitetail is whitetail no matter where u live yeah they grow bigger up north so what .i have never hunted a northern whitetail but i bet the meat taste just the same .so stop the bickerin between southerners an northerners who cares which state has more bc and py bucks they aint none fof them mine so what .i will be the first to admit sc deer are small so what im not a trophy hunter thats whats wrong with us hunters now trophy hunter puttin meat hunters down dang i mean we are all hunters am i right .this is what the antis want hunters to fight amongest themselves .cause of one goof runnin his mouth ppl are bickerin come on this aint the 1800s there is no civil war the last time i checked it was the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA .SO LETS ALL GET ALONG .
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RE: plight of the Southern Deer
Ied rispond to tis, bud i hav wa to mutch soutern bakstrip and im to literite.
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