From a bench with an adjustable rest and a good scope. I can't shoot worth a flip at 100 yards off hand.

Paul

I dont keep tight groups either they are good enough to kill a deer cleanly but most shooters would laugh at me, I shoot off my back porch, my rest is a grill with a towel on top so I wont scratch my gun and im sitting in a old wooden chair shooting at a piece of paper nailed to a stump and I flinch when I shoot and sometimes shut my eyes as I jerk the trigger but they are good enough to get the job done and thats all that should matter

I use a bench when sighting in a gun whether it's 50 yrds or 200 yrds.

Sight in/load development I use a bench and sandbags. Like said I know where to place the blame if I miss. I also practice from various field positions so I havehandle on my real life ability.

I have tried many rests over the years some are better than others but I find sand bags to be the best for my situation. I make mine out of old jean or coverall's legs by just adding sand and tie off the openings, this way I can stack them and mold them for different guns/shooting styles. I make sure to place sand bags on thefront & rear of the stock to ensure the gun is solid...this eliminates the rocking when breathing.

To me sounds like you might be flinching a bit at the trigger pull or something with mechanics. Maybe in antcipation of the recoil, muzzle blast, could be yanking the trigger or a bit of target panick where you try to control the bobbing crosshairs and actually worsen the POI. Make yourself some sand bags, this way you can just concentrate on the mechanics of shooting. Practice will improve your groups...trust me! I was never a good paper shooter but after range time and finding aids that helped make it more enjoyable I have greatly improved and really enjoy going to shoot paper now.

BTW might be good to ask a experienced shooter to watch you shoot and possibly point out what you may need to work on. Even a buddy who concentrates on watching just you can give you some clues.

Best of luck & keep practicing!!!!!!!!

I never shoot over 50 yards.Cant miss then

I use a lead sled when I'm sighting in, just to eliminate my error. In the field I use whatever rest I can find. At 100 yards, even with the lead sled, I haven't ever shot a one inch group. I have shot many two inch groups and two inch and change groups. That is plenty good enough for me. I haven't ever shoot an animal more than about 150 yards away.

i new i was jerking because the gun kicked so much so i wiggled cause of that and i got ride of most of the kick by buying a hogue but bad im thinking about getting a bench or somthing to try this stuff i probly wont be taking ne shots farther then 100 yards i just need more practice probly i gotta get used to the gun ive only had it 3 weeks yesterday was the first day shooting it with the but bad and i really like it know thanks guys if you got ne more ideas id be glad to hear them

if the recoil is so bad that your flinching before you pull the trigger, then you need a different gun. to be satisfied with just hitting paper at 100 yards with no consistency.... well maybe you need to think on about fishing or horse shoes.

im not comfortable with a shot over 50 yards and the gun did kick bad but it dont ne more. i

Lots of people have a flinch i see it at the range all the time, most of them are in anticipation from the shot , not really from the recoil...even with alot of practice some people can't get rid of the flinch , mainly due to the fact that they "PULL" the trigger. if you pull the trigger you know exactly when the shot is coming and that will cause a flinch.

If you ever went thru military shooting and went further then just teh basic weapons training and tried sniper then you know that the first thing they teach you is breathing the next is the mechanics...

i had an older gentleman on teh range the other day , me and him where the only 2 on the range , i often go to the range just to practice as i believe that if you shoot a gun every week you will get better and stay ahead of the game. he couldn't get his muzzle loader sighted in , he was high and to the left everytime he shot it... so he asked me to shoot with it once to see if it was "dead on" at 50 yards , and i hit it straight thru the bullseye...so he told me ..."yeah i think i have a flinch" so i started observing him and i saw that he was pulling the trigger...i stopped for a minut and explained to him that that was prolyl the reason for his flinch , and he's been shotting rifle's for a long time he told me , but never really got rid of the flinch. after we talked for a while i explained to him he should try to ratehr "Squeeze" the trigger , that way you don't exactly know when the shot is coming... and the flinch will disspear and even if you flinch you will be too late as the bullet already hit the target before the flinch can throw you off.

after a few shot he was beginning to understand what i was telling him...and his shots where getting better and better.

he thanked me many time afterwards and offered me to get a beer later , i gracefully declined the invitation , and told him "your never too old to learn"

now i'm NOT an expierenced hunter , matter effect this is my first year on deer , i do however still proudly own my military (green baret) sniper cerificates and the badge that comes along with it.so i do know a bit how to shoot...heh