WalMart Deer Scents
 

Who buys there Deer scents from a WalMart ?

And does it do you any good ?

I was at WalMarts yesterday and they were putting Tinks scents on the shelf.

Im not the sharpest knife in the droor.
But isn't August the 2nd to soon to be putting deer scents in a bottle ?

I mean after all deer season is a month away for bow hunting.
And 3 months before gun in the county I live in.
( Same county that this WalMart is in )

I have heard that deer scents ( Pee ) turns to amonia real soon.
So what do Yall Think Of WalMart Deer Scents ?

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

That's like those commercials for "Standing Estrous". "First the doe stands and he attempts to breed and then we bottle it, place your order now for delievery on Sept. 17th". :eek::([:'(]Want I want to know is where are they getting these deer that are going into estrous soon enough that they can have "my" standing estrous shipped to me buy Sept. 17th???????

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Silent, they are pen raised. We have a woman here in Lutz,FL that
collects it and sells it.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Well of course they're pen-raised. I'd like to come and personally shake the hand of a man who snuck up on a wild doe and bottled her urine;)You would think though that a tame deer herd would have hot does at least somewhat close to when the wild herds go into estrous.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Some of them use hormones on their does. They know the number of hours it will be before the does are in estrus to collect the super pee.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

" Super Pee " :D

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

I may be wrong but I believe the estrous cycle is related to photoperiodism. The Pineal gland in the brain controls it and it is related to the lenght of daylight. That is why the rut always close to the same dates. I believe the captive does are kept in pens where the handlers control the daylight so they can induce estrous. I used to have a lot of success with doe pee but the last ten years I have not even brought in one buck with it...........dabow

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Probably collecting it from their home toilet and follow there wife around for samples. I just think this stuff is such a waste of money.So many natural ways for free you can get the same results

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

According to fellow member Sunset , whose family owns a pee farm , it's a combination of light control and hormones that are used to induce estrous in captive does . You don't really want to know how they "milk" a buck , let's just leave it at "it requires the use of an electrical device and a very open mind ."

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

More than likely, it is leftover from last year. This is the main reason I quit buying my scents from any large retailer. What they don't sell this year, gets put on the shelf next year.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

That is why I just where a cover scent to the woods

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

I think the stuff put on shelves at this time of year would go bad. I was never really into the bottled stuff. I like to use stuff from freshly harvested deer. The last two years I've been buying some down in S. IL that's from a guy's farm also in S. IL. He keeps the scent in little freezers in various stores and recommends to keep it frozen or refrigerated till use. I have seen bucks run right into this scent. Like $10/bottle. I already know I'll buy another bottle this shotgun season. I'll try to dig up the name and post it.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

I talked to a manager on a farm that the Code Blue product comes from and he said they could collect from the same doe several times a year using hormones. Not sure about the daylight aspect of it.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Most scents have an added ingredient to increase shelf life to about 18 months.Walmart does not put scents back up from last year.They are way to large a retailer for that.They will keep marking it down on clearence till its gone.I have bought tinks 69 for .50cents a bottle at seasons end and used it the following year.

Now if it works or not,well thats hard to say.Some bucks showed up right after hanging it out,other times,nothing.I personnally have the best luck with using my own urine.The human urine debate has been around for awhile and I am a believer in it.

90% of my trail cam pics are over mock scrapes which I put nothing in but my own urine.Works for me..;)

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

They put the stuff out early like that so hunters can have enough time to buy it because not every state's deer season opens at the same time.

As for standing estrous, it will work. Its the only one I have ever had that actually worked besides the other code blue urines and bowhunters setup brand. I bought some last year and used it 5 times, 3 out of those 5 times I had deer come to it. All at different times of the year. It doesnt matter what time they start selling it because it will stay "fresh" as long as you dont keep the bottle open all the time.I used 3 month old dominant buck urine and doe estrous (bow hunters setup dominant buck/code blue doe estrous) to great success last year. So IMO, urines will work if you use them right.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

I have always had good luck with the tinks, and the little doe in estrous can. even call up coyote and bobcat at times. shot my first buck using tinks. I never use to use any scents, but I have seen and killed more bucks with it. That little can caller works great too.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Heck the Tinks smoke sticks even worked for me.I think they have the smell down,at least it fools them some of the time.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Hooley Juice. Bought a bottle last season at our local outfitter.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Wait a minute, you make a mock scrape.....and then proceed to piss in it yourself? What's more, you're telling me that it has worked on multiple occassions? I'm seriously fascinated, not trying to be a smartass.......

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

I thought that one shouldn't expect to actually attract bucks in with urine, but only to hold them for a few seconds to make a shot?

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

I know,sounds funny but It has worked for me.Others have reported great sucsess with same procedure,only using their urine.:D.My father who has hunted for 50+years absolutley shudders at the idea.I was reluctant as well but not anymore.
Also yes attracting the deer in with scent is what its all about.Deer smell that odor and just gotta know what it is.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Back to Walmart:There Doe Pee has worked great as a cover scent(spray around me not on me).It's not a doe in heat or anything like that but just well doe pee.The does really want to know who the new girl is,lol. If you really want to make a buck mad,pee in his scrape.It drives them nuts.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

So you guys hold your own urine just as valuable or more so then the commercial buck urines and active scrape scents? I am going to absolutely HAVE to try that out this year. Do you put your mocks in and around current real scrapes or just anywhere you know there are deer present?

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Yes

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

standing esterous 40,000 bottles produced at $ 36. esterous urines are produced by injecting hprmones, standing esterous is bottled when the buck attempts to mount the doe.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Leave the scents in the store. the only scent you need is cover scent. I have had some luck with scents, but ive also had them run once they caught wind of it. Stick with calls, Cover scents, good scouting, wind direction, and good ol dumb luck

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Their scents are fine. Every other place is the same way.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

I know a guy that uses a pee bottle. Well, he used it a time or two in the early season and left it in his stand. Came back a couple weeks later and decided to experiment with it. His stand was already positioned near a scrape sohe poured the bottle of urine into the scrape. Came back a few days later to hunt the stand and he said the area was torn to shreds.......new scrapes, new rubs, trees trashed. Apparently he pissed off the wrong buck! lol He never did connect with the deer though but based on his account I'd be willing to try it.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

I bought a gallon of the Buck gel they have in persimmon flavor, THE HOGS LOVE IT!!!!! thats all I have ever bought from them..

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

I'm told they give them hormomes that make them go into estrus monthly.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Hi guys,
I just happened across this forum and was reading the questions and information regarding deer scents and the collection process. I collect and bottle deer scents and even havea patent on one.

I would be then happy to try to answer some questions for you regarding deer scents and even the physiology of the white-tailed deer. So go ahead and ask away…

Thanks
John

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

What is a deer doing when he is standing and stomping his foot on
the ground?

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

He has a cramp..

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

I thought you knew about deer scents?

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

I'm more into the physiology of the deer not the reactions and visual communications.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Have you ever heard of the Interdigital gland on deer and what kind of
scent it puts out? You're the expert on scents!

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Yes I have and have made tinctures with them.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

Explain the purpose of the gland and what the deer use's it for!
Stoney, you have entered Scents 101 on this forum. These guys
have many years of expirence about deer.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

PREORBITAL GLAND
The preorbital gland, located immediately in front of the eye socket, is sometimes called the tear gland. However, the waxy substance in the preorbital gland serves as another means of identification through odor as the deer rubs his face against branches, shrubs and trees. The preorbital gland does not produce tears.

TARSAL GLAND
Tarsal glands are located on the inside of the hocks of both hind legs on bucks and does alike. During the rut, both sexes squat down and urinate on these glands and rub their hind legs together, which turns the glands from their normal white to dark brown or black. This process also helps deer locate one another during the rut.

FOREHEAD GLAND
As the name implies, the forehead glands are located on the buck's forehead, between the eyes and the bases of his antlers. When he rubs his antlers on shrubs and trees, he also rubs his forehead, leaving the identifiable scent of his forehead glands on them. Leaving his scent on shrubs and trees in this manner is like leaving his personal signature, so that other deer may know he has been there and personally made the rubs

METATARSAL GLAND
The metatarsal glands are located on the outside of the lower hind legs of both bucks and does. They appear as round white puffs of hair. Their purpose is unknown at this time.

INTERDIGITAL GLAND
The interdigital gland is located in the cleft between the toes of the front hooves of both bucks and does. This gland also emits and odor which is left in the deer's track, enabling other deer to follow by smell. It appears that does leave an identifiable scent through their interdigital glands that tell a buck when they are ready to be bred. The buck singles this track out and follows it much like a dog sniffing his way along the ground.

*** Each gland secretes a different scent called a pheromone. The word pheromone [pronounced fair-a-moan] means a chemical substance that is produced by an animal and serves as a stimulus to other individuals of the same species for one or more behavioral responses.
These scents are part of a communication system that identifies individual animals.
Mechanisms for release of glandular secretions are not well understood by scientists. Both hormonal and sympathetic nervous stimulations may be involved.
In addition to the pheromones from the glands, deer use urine as a scent.
Fawns rub-urinate when they are frightened, and older deer do the same in aggressive situations.
During this behavior, the animals rub their hind legs together while urinating on the tarsal glands.
In white-tailed deer, the tarsal glands, interdigital glands and rub-urination serve the same functions. However, scientists have found the metatarsal scent does not produce an alarm reaction and whitetails seem to depend more strongly on behavioral clues, such as the raised tail, than on pheromones as alerts to danger. The preorbital glands are reduced in function to tear glands.

RE: WalMart Deer Scents
 

INTERDIGITAL GLAND
The interdigital gland is located in the cleft between the toes of the front hooves of both bucks and does. This gland also emits and odor which is left in the deer's track, enabling other deer to follow by smell. It appears that does leave an identifiable scent through their interdigital glands that tell a buck when they are ready to be bred. The buck singles this track out and follows it much like a dog sniffing his way along the ground.

10-4! Just checking! Thank you.