Washington SB 5127Would Gut the WDFW commission in favor of WHAT
02-05-2011, 10:22 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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New Year/New Attacks
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/DistrictFinder/Default.aspx
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http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summ...1850&year=2011
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summ...5669&year=2011
And while we're at it.... you,ll like this one too
SB 5622 ( http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=5622
Dear James,
SB 5669 and HB 1850 were introduced today in the Washington State legislature and would hijack your ability to influence important issues impacting our fisheries resources. SB 5669 and HB 1850 are identical Governor’s request bills to merge three State Agencies; Fish & Wildlife, Parks, as well the Recreation and Conservation Office (RCO). More importantly, they "neuter" the Fish and Wildlife Commission by striping them of their policy making authority, as well as their ability to appoint the Director of Fish and Wildlife.
The Senate bill has been scheduled for a Public Hearing in the Senate Natural Resources Committee on Feb. 10th at 1:30 PM. in the John A Cherberg Building Hearing Room #2. Please plan on attending.
CCA is adamantly opposed to this end run on Referendum 45 that passed in 1995 by an overwhelming vote of the people. Referendum 45 should have sent a clear message to the legislature and the Governor, that the public wanted a citizens commission that was no longer going to tolerate business as usual when it comes to managing our State’s natural resources.
SB 5669 and HB 1850 would make the Fish and Wildlife Commission "Advisory Only," essentially turning the Commission into the Fish and "Get a Life" Commission. Qualified Commission candidates will no longer seek to serve on a commission with no actual say in the management of our fish and wildlife resources. This power grab will turn the clock back on our fish and wildlife management as decisions will once again be based on politics and not science. Control of our natural resources will be held by those with the deepest pockets.
CCA is urging you to contact the Governor and your three legislators immediately, urging them to oppose SB 5669 and HB 1850. The passage of this bill will cripple your ability to influence the process. Important recreational hunting and fishing issues will be swallowed up by this mega agency. Hunters, fisherman and conservationist will lose their voices! The proposed merger has been sold as an opportunity to streamline government and save tax dollars, but it is unlikely to do either.
Again, SB 5669 has been scheduled for a Public Hearing in the Senate Natural Resources Committee on Feb. 10th at 1:30 PM. in the John A Cherberg Building Hearing Room #2. We encourage you to send an email and attend this hearing to sign in as being opposed to the legislation or testify in opposition.
We need you to take immediate action against this measure. We cannot afford to allow this to gain any traction in the legislative process. Use the link below to contact your legislators now!
Click the link below to log in and send your message:
http://www.votervoice.net/link/target/ccapnw/yzNqc69g.aspx
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/in...cseen.html#new
Other discussions......
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/in...oard,21.0.html
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/DistrictFinder/Default.aspx
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http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summ...1850&year=2011
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summ...5669&year=2011
And while we're at it.... you,ll like this one too
SB 5622 ( http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=5622
Dear James,
SB 5669 and HB 1850 were introduced today in the Washington State legislature and would hijack your ability to influence important issues impacting our fisheries resources. SB 5669 and HB 1850 are identical Governor’s request bills to merge three State Agencies; Fish & Wildlife, Parks, as well the Recreation and Conservation Office (RCO). More importantly, they "neuter" the Fish and Wildlife Commission by striping them of their policy making authority, as well as their ability to appoint the Director of Fish and Wildlife.
The Senate bill has been scheduled for a Public Hearing in the Senate Natural Resources Committee on Feb. 10th at 1:30 PM. in the John A Cherberg Building Hearing Room #2. Please plan on attending.
CCA is adamantly opposed to this end run on Referendum 45 that passed in 1995 by an overwhelming vote of the people. Referendum 45 should have sent a clear message to the legislature and the Governor, that the public wanted a citizens commission that was no longer going to tolerate business as usual when it comes to managing our State’s natural resources.
SB 5669 and HB 1850 would make the Fish and Wildlife Commission "Advisory Only," essentially turning the Commission into the Fish and "Get a Life" Commission. Qualified Commission candidates will no longer seek to serve on a commission with no actual say in the management of our fish and wildlife resources. This power grab will turn the clock back on our fish and wildlife management as decisions will once again be based on politics and not science. Control of our natural resources will be held by those with the deepest pockets.
CCA is urging you to contact the Governor and your three legislators immediately, urging them to oppose SB 5669 and HB 1850. The passage of this bill will cripple your ability to influence the process. Important recreational hunting and fishing issues will be swallowed up by this mega agency. Hunters, fisherman and conservationist will lose their voices! The proposed merger has been sold as an opportunity to streamline government and save tax dollars, but it is unlikely to do either.
Again, SB 5669 has been scheduled for a Public Hearing in the Senate Natural Resources Committee on Feb. 10th at 1:30 PM. in the John A Cherberg Building Hearing Room #2. We encourage you to send an email and attend this hearing to sign in as being opposed to the legislation or testify in opposition.
We need you to take immediate action against this measure. We cannot afford to allow this to gain any traction in the legislative process. Use the link below to contact your legislators now!
Click the link below to log in and send your message:
http://www.votervoice.net/link/target/ccapnw/yzNqc69g.aspx
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/in...cseen.html#new
Other discussions......
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/in...oard,21.0.html
Last edited by summit daWg; 02-05-2011 at 10:34 AM.
02-08-2011, 10:12 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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Hearing Thursday 2-10 at 1:30 PM Olympia
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/in...c,70143.0.html
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Hearing this Thursday on proposed WDFW, Parks merger
Hunters and anglers will descend on Olympia Thursday afternoon when the Senate Natural Resources Committee holds a public hearing on proposed legislation to merge three state agencies including the Department of Fish & Wildlife (WDFW).
This column discussed the proposal weeks ago here, offering a ten-point alternative solution to funding woes at the WDFW. The Senate version is SB 5669 and the House version is HB 1850.
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-i...w-parks-merger
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Wow Link to his story and there is a link to Puget sound anglers which has a letter through voter voice that will be sent to 10 different recipients including you senator, reps, Gagwar and others.... Such as....
Senator Val Stevens Email
Senator Karen Fraser Email
Senator Dan Swecker Email
Senator James Hargrove Email
Senator Debbie Regala Email
Senator Kevin Ranker Email
Senator Bob Morton Email
Governor Chris Gregoire Email
Representative Kirk Pearson Email
Representative Dan Kristiansen Email
Can't get much easier. If you would like you can do your own letter and it will still go to all 10
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/in...c,70143.0.html
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Hearing this Thursday on proposed WDFW, Parks merger
Hunters and anglers will descend on Olympia Thursday afternoon when the Senate Natural Resources Committee holds a public hearing on proposed legislation to merge three state agencies including the Department of Fish & Wildlife (WDFW).
This column discussed the proposal weeks ago here, offering a ten-point alternative solution to funding woes at the WDFW. The Senate version is SB 5669 and the House version is HB 1850.
http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-i...w-parks-merger
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Wow Link to his story and there is a link to Puget sound anglers which has a letter through voter voice that will be sent to 10 different recipients including you senator, reps, Gagwar and others.... Such as....
Senator Val Stevens Email
Senator Karen Fraser Email
Senator Dan Swecker Email
Senator James Hargrove Email
Senator Debbie Regala Email
Senator Kevin Ranker Email
Senator Bob Morton Email
Governor Chris Gregoire Email
Representative Kirk Pearson Email
Representative Dan Kristiansen Email
Can't get much easier. If you would like you can do your own letter and it will still go to all 10
02-11-2011, 10:28 AM
#13
Nontypical Buck
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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As of 2/11/2010
THANKS TO ALL THAT ATTENDED AND SPOKE UP FOR US!!!!!!!!!!
Okay I wasn't there but here is what I found. Dial up SUCKS!!!! I don't have a month to wait for TVW to load!
I notice there is a lot more paper space taken up by the CON side of discription and comments.
WTF is the washington Assn. of fish and wildlife professionals and WHY TF are the on the pro side,right along with the nature (definately NOT hook and bullet) conservancy, the environmental council and our illustrious governesses staff.
I see the Yakimas were there, not taking a stand. Would that be so our governess wouldn't want to OK OFF reservation casinos?
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________
SENATE BILL REPORT
SB 5669
As of February 11, 2011
Title: An act relating to consolidating natural resources agencies and programs.
Brief Description: Regarding the consolidation of certain natural resources agencies and
programs.
Sponsors: Senators Ranker, Swecker, Regala, Rockefeller, Nelson, White, Pflug and Shin; by
request of Governor Gregoire.
Brief History:
Committee Activity: Natural Resources & Marine Waters: 2/10/11.
Brief Summary of Bill
Ÿ
Fiscal Note: Available.
Committee/Commission/Task Force Created: No.
Effective Date: The bill takes effect on July 1, 2011.
Staff Summary of Public Testimony:
PRO:
The proposal arises out of continuing budget
challenges and a desire to ensure the state looks at government organizations and does not
just cut front-line staff. This will create a simpler, more functional agency structure. It will
also save some money now, with the opportunity for more savings in the future. The
reorganization must keep key environmental protections in place, and ensuring efficient
agencies will help save resources to support these core functions. This proposal is a work in
progress; and, there are suggestions for improvement as it moves through the legislative
process, including ensuring that the commissions continue to serve as forum for public input.
CON:
DAHP is not a good fit with DNR because the two agencies have little nexus and
because DAHP must regulate certain DNR projects and activities. DAHP operating under
DNR could be seen as a conflict of interest. The SPRC is a well run agency that would not
fit well combined with a fish and wildlife management agency. Allowing the Governor to
appoint the agency head makes the position more political than under a commission
structure. There is no objection to government reform or streamlining, but this consolidation
proposal is not the answer. The open public process provided by the Fish and Wildlife
Commission is valuable, and should not be changed. Recreational fishing is a $1 billion
industry in the state, and that economic driver more than offsets the small cost of the Fish and
Wildlife Commission. The citizens of the state adopted the current fish and wildlife
management structure by referendum, and that system has been a success over the last 15
years. The agencies are not broke, and do not need to be fixed. A consolidation process will
impact agency morale and distract from substantive duties, with very little in dollar savings
to show for it. Before consolidating agencies the state should first try all other means to save
money and improve the agencies. The state's natural resources are too fragile to put at risk
by merging the managing agencies and changing management structures.
OTHER: This is an important discussion to have. The commissions should retain a role as a
communication point between citizens and agencies, and be involved in long-term strategic
planning. The recreational fishing industry is open to discussions on this issue, but wants to
Senate Bill Report - 4 - SB 5669
avoid removing policy authority of the Fish and Wildlife Commission and its authority to
appoint the director. DAHP operating under DNR could be viewed as a conflict of interest.
Persons Testifying:
PRO:
John Mankowski, Governor's Office; Kirstan Arestad, Office of
Financial Management; Bill Robinson, The Nature Conservancy; Mo McBroom, WA
Environmental Council; Jeremy Jording, WA Assn. of Fish and Wildlife Professionals.
CON:
Robert Rao, Frank Urabeck, Jim Tuggle, Ray Carter, Joe Taller, Wallace Cogley, Teri
Nomura, citizens; Larry Snyder, Vancouver Wildlife League; Tim Young, Brian Yearat, Mark
James, WA Federation of State Employees; Daniel Fallstrom, WA State Snowmobile Assn;
Paul Sparks, Gregg Bufando, Trout Unlimited; Carl Rienstra, Ted Measor, Jim Howard,
Coastal Conservation Assn., Puget Sound Anglers; Ed Wickersham, Dave Kuno, Lewis
Boyd, Coastal Conservation Assn.; Norman Reinharot, Kitsap Poggie Club; Don Freeman,
South Sound Fly Fishers; Ron Garner, Puget Sound Anglers; Jack Field, WA Cattlemen's
Assn.; Jennifer Meisner, Susan White, Michael Sullivan, WA Trust for Historic Preservation;
Connie Lorenz, Olympia Downtown Assn.
OTHER: Ed Owens, Coalition of Coastal Fisheries, Hunters Heritage Council; Carl Burke,
Fish Northwest, NW Sportsfishing Ind; Dawn Vyvyan, Yakama Nation.
THANKS TO ALL THAT ATTENDED AND SPOKE UP FOR US!!!!!!!!!!
Okay I wasn't there but here is what I found. Dial up SUCKS!!!! I don't have a month to wait for TVW to load!
I notice there is a lot more paper space taken up by the CON side of discription and comments.
WTF is the washington Assn. of fish and wildlife professionals and WHY TF are the on the pro side,right along with the nature (definately NOT hook and bullet) conservancy, the environmental council and our illustrious governesses staff.
I see the Yakimas were there, not taking a stand. Would that be so our governess wouldn't want to OK OFF reservation casinos?
__________________________________________________ ____________________________________
SENATE BILL REPORT
SB 5669
As of February 11, 2011
Title: An act relating to consolidating natural resources agencies and programs.
Brief Description: Regarding the consolidation of certain natural resources agencies and
programs.
Sponsors: Senators Ranker, Swecker, Regala, Rockefeller, Nelson, White, Pflug and Shin; by
request of Governor Gregoire.
Brief History:
Committee Activity: Natural Resources & Marine Waters: 2/10/11.
Brief Summary of Bill
Ÿ
Fiscal Note: Available.
Committee/Commission/Task Force Created: No.
Effective Date: The bill takes effect on July 1, 2011.
Staff Summary of Public Testimony:
PRO:
The proposal arises out of continuing budget
challenges and a desire to ensure the state looks at government organizations and does not
just cut front-line staff. This will create a simpler, more functional agency structure. It will
also save some money now, with the opportunity for more savings in the future. The
reorganization must keep key environmental protections in place, and ensuring efficient
agencies will help save resources to support these core functions. This proposal is a work in
progress; and, there are suggestions for improvement as it moves through the legislative
process, including ensuring that the commissions continue to serve as forum for public input.
CON:
DAHP is not a good fit with DNR because the two agencies have little nexus and
because DAHP must regulate certain DNR projects and activities. DAHP operating under
DNR could be seen as a conflict of interest. The SPRC is a well run agency that would not
fit well combined with a fish and wildlife management agency. Allowing the Governor to
appoint the agency head makes the position more political than under a commission
structure. There is no objection to government reform or streamlining, but this consolidation
proposal is not the answer. The open public process provided by the Fish and Wildlife
Commission is valuable, and should not be changed. Recreational fishing is a $1 billion
industry in the state, and that economic driver more than offsets the small cost of the Fish and
Wildlife Commission. The citizens of the state adopted the current fish and wildlife
management structure by referendum, and that system has been a success over the last 15
years. The agencies are not broke, and do not need to be fixed. A consolidation process will
impact agency morale and distract from substantive duties, with very little in dollar savings
to show for it. Before consolidating agencies the state should first try all other means to save
money and improve the agencies. The state's natural resources are too fragile to put at risk
by merging the managing agencies and changing management structures.
OTHER: This is an important discussion to have. The commissions should retain a role as a
communication point between citizens and agencies, and be involved in long-term strategic
planning. The recreational fishing industry is open to discussions on this issue, but wants to
Senate Bill Report - 4 - SB 5669
avoid removing policy authority of the Fish and Wildlife Commission and its authority to
appoint the director. DAHP operating under DNR could be viewed as a conflict of interest.
Persons Testifying:
PRO:
John Mankowski, Governor's Office; Kirstan Arestad, Office of
Financial Management; Bill Robinson, The Nature Conservancy; Mo McBroom, WA
Environmental Council; Jeremy Jording, WA Assn. of Fish and Wildlife Professionals.
CON:
Robert Rao, Frank Urabeck, Jim Tuggle, Ray Carter, Joe Taller, Wallace Cogley, Teri
Nomura, citizens; Larry Snyder, Vancouver Wildlife League; Tim Young, Brian Yearat, Mark
James, WA Federation of State Employees; Daniel Fallstrom, WA State Snowmobile Assn;
Paul Sparks, Gregg Bufando, Trout Unlimited; Carl Rienstra, Ted Measor, Jim Howard,
Coastal Conservation Assn., Puget Sound Anglers; Ed Wickersham, Dave Kuno, Lewis
Boyd, Coastal Conservation Assn.; Norman Reinharot, Kitsap Poggie Club; Don Freeman,
South Sound Fly Fishers; Ron Garner, Puget Sound Anglers; Jack Field, WA Cattlemen's
Assn.; Jennifer Meisner, Susan White, Michael Sullivan, WA Trust for Historic Preservation;
Connie Lorenz, Olympia Downtown Assn.
OTHER: Ed Owens, Coalition of Coastal Fisheries, Hunters Heritage Council; Carl Burke,
Fish Northwest, NW Sportsfishing Ind; Dawn Vyvyan, Yakama Nation.
03-08-2011, 07:59 AM
#14
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Looks like we made it again
Well I sent another message to my 3 legislators on it today and what I was told by an assistant of Val Stevens on the phone this afternoon is that the nightmare is dead since hb1850 the house version of this bill didn't make it out of committee on time and DIED!!!
Well I sent another message to my 3 legislators on it today and what I was told by an assistant of Val Stevens on the phone this afternoon is that the nightmare is dead since hb1850 the house version of this bill didn't make it out of committee on time and DIED!!!
