Marty
The frame is nothing more than 3/4 dia emt conduit. Prolly could have went with 1" but it was free, so it works. All that was done was we weaved the avery fastgrass on to the 3/4 tubing it seems to work great. Last year we used zip ties to hold the grass to the blind but that seemed to be really hard on the grass and it was easy to rip. There is no backing on the grass we just use the weight of the grass to keep it down. How ever I saw some black snow fence material at one of the Home improvement places. I don't want to name names cause i've never been impressed with them and I also don't care for their driver but it's an orange #20 car if you follow nascar at all. One other way that you can stiffen it up some is to run a rope allong the gunnals of your boat and zip tie the grass to that it doesn't support any weight but it keeps it from blowing around.

thanx again carp .... and congrats again on the scoter !! too bad ya couldnt have dumped em all !!! lol ..... wish ya luck on a longtail ... ive been wantin to shoot one for awhile now ... will have to break down and head to the east coast i spose .... towards the end of the 98-99 season we had limited out and was headin back to the boat landin when we flushed a flock of 6 longtails out of a cove .... couldnt believe it .... then the next day after limitin out did the same thing (different cove) .... would have loved to bag one of the drakes .... awesome lookin birds !!!

thanks for the info i'll try it