Hevi shot is impressive!
05-30-2013, 05:51 AM
#51
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Gents Please go back and go read or re-read the HNI rules.
Never mind let me help you as I see several here are do nothing more than to argue!
Why after 30 years of Turkey hunting and being a NWTF member most of that time (the organizations has some flaws and I quit for a while) I read about this 100/10 rule now......
It is after all just an opinion and not a rule. Just another way to pattern a gun. And a 10" circle - the turkeys head is nothing more than the size of an egg and with the neck fits about 1/5 of that circle. You live by it great....others do other things to make sure their weapon of choice no matter what the gauge kills cleanly and quickly when they fire at their intended target. Ethical hunters do that.
And then there are some I am not so sure they don't work for a given company and if I can prove it then posting said opinion can become spam....as they are pushing a product.
So move on.....
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And then
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Never mind let me help you as I see several here are do nothing more than to argue!
Why after 30 years of Turkey hunting and being a NWTF member most of that time (the organizations has some flaws and I quit for a while) I read about this 100/10 rule now......
It is after all just an opinion and not a rule. Just another way to pattern a gun. And a 10" circle - the turkeys head is nothing more than the size of an egg and with the neck fits about 1/5 of that circle. You live by it great....others do other things to make sure their weapon of choice no matter what the gauge kills cleanly and quickly when they fire at their intended target. Ethical hunters do that.
And then there are some I am not so sure they don't work for a given company and if I can prove it then posting said opinion can become spam....as they are pushing a product.
So move on.....
Link to rules
http://www.huntingnet.com/staticpage...il.aspx?id=291
#8. Do not engage in "flame-wars" or excessive exchange of confrontational postings. Debate is important, but users should not try to "pick a fight" with one another.
#12. While we encourage lively debate, we will not tolerate personal attacks. Any person attacking another forum member will receive a warning and have their message removed. Any future incident thereafter will result in that member being removed from the forum. Warnings have been given - there will be no more!
#15. Posts directed to a specific person can be considered off topic and will be deleted by our moderators
And then
#17. Forum rules and guidelines are not up for debate. This is not a democracy, but rather a private forum. Anyone openly debating the rules we have set in place will be removed. Moderators of this forum are not to be argued with when enforcing forum rules and guidelines. Anyone arguing with a Moderator against disciplinary measures will be removed from the forum. If you have a problem with a Moderator please email [email protected] and we will address the issue as soon as possible.
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JW
Last edited by JW; 05-30-2013 at 05:59 AM.
06-14-2013, 07:23 PM
#53
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
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My advice for those new to the sport and assuring a clean kill, is to pattern your gun and keep it simple.
When you pattern your gun at 40 yards draw a turkey size head and neck on paper.
If you can get 3 or more pellets consistently in that area at that distance then that is the distance you should be shooting or closer. To have a count on the head like this your pellets will be about 1 cm. apart on paper. Simple it's the pellets on the head and the neck that counts after all.
I should add that I have missed birds at 10-15 yards and I know they are a clean miss. Almost all the Turkeys I shoot are within 30 yards.
I would hesitate to shoot a Turkey at 60 yards although it shows in paper that I can do it, simply because if that Turkey walks away I have a feeling it won't be a clean miss as a 10 yard shot. I most likely would just be giving the Coyotes a taste of that bird.
Now if I plan to shoot at 55 yards then I will pattern my gun at 55 yards using the same method, using the heaviest shot allowed.
When you pattern your gun at 40 yards draw a turkey size head and neck on paper.
If you can get 3 or more pellets consistently in that area at that distance then that is the distance you should be shooting or closer. To have a count on the head like this your pellets will be about 1 cm. apart on paper. Simple it's the pellets on the head and the neck that counts after all.
I should add that I have missed birds at 10-15 yards and I know they are a clean miss. Almost all the Turkeys I shoot are within 30 yards.
I would hesitate to shoot a Turkey at 60 yards although it shows in paper that I can do it, simply because if that Turkey walks away I have a feeling it won't be a clean miss as a 10 yard shot. I most likely would just be giving the Coyotes a taste of that bird.
Now if I plan to shoot at 55 yards then I will pattern my gun at 55 yards using the same method, using the heaviest shot allowed.
06-15-2013, 04:31 AM
#54
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allegan, MI
Posts: 8,019
My advice for those new to the sport and assuring a clean kill, is to pattern your gun and keep it simple.
When you pattern your gun at 40 yards draw a turkey size head and neck on paper.
If you can get 3 or more pellets consistently in that area at that distance then that is the distance you should be shooting or closer. To have a count on the head like this your pellets will be about 1 cm. apart on paper. Simple it's the pellets on the head and the neck that counts after all.
I should add that I have missed birds at 10-15 yards and I know they are a clean miss. Almost all the Turkeys I shoot are within 30 yards.
I would hesitate to shoot a Turkey at 60 yards although it shows in paper that I can do it, simply because if that Turkey walks away I have a feeling it won't be a clean miss as a 10 yard shot. I most likely would just be giving the Coyotes a taste of that bird.
Now if I plan to shoot at 55 yards then I will pattern my gun at 55 yards using the same method, using the heaviest shot allowed.
When you pattern your gun at 40 yards draw a turkey size head and neck on paper.
If you can get 3 or more pellets consistently in that area at that distance then that is the distance you should be shooting or closer. To have a count on the head like this your pellets will be about 1 cm. apart on paper. Simple it's the pellets on the head and the neck that counts after all.
I should add that I have missed birds at 10-15 yards and I know they are a clean miss. Almost all the Turkeys I shoot are within 30 yards.
I would hesitate to shoot a Turkey at 60 yards although it shows in paper that I can do it, simply because if that Turkey walks away I have a feeling it won't be a clean miss as a 10 yard shot. I most likely would just be giving the Coyotes a taste of that bird.
Now if I plan to shoot at 55 yards then I will pattern my gun at 55 yards using the same method, using the heaviest shot allowed.
06-15-2013, 07:24 AM
#55
Typical Buck
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That's kind of interesting. He didn't say just 3 pellets in the pattern he said 3 or more pellets in the head and and neck I will stretch it and say if he meant every time he shot he had 3 or more pellets in the brain and spine of the turkey it would in fact be a kill !!
06-15-2013, 09:06 AM
#56
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That's kind of interesting. He didn't say just 3 pellets in the pattern he said 3 or more pellets in the head and and neck I will stretch it and say if he meant every time he shot he had 3 or more pellets in the brain and spine of the turkey it would in fact be a kill !!
07-01-2013, 03:35 AM
#57
Fork Horn
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Location: Missouri
Posts: 156
***I know exactly what he said and I will stick to my reply that in no way would I be satisfied to shoot at a bird at ANY distance where as few as 3 pellets are hitting the head/neck area. That's what got this whole debate started in the first place where a couple members are saying they can kill a bird at long distance (60 to 76 yards). Sure, that's correct IF a pellet hits the brain or breaks the neck bone. I would hope that most people would not shoot at a bird at any distance where they know through pattern tests that only 3 pellets have a CHANCE at killing him, rather than 15 or more in that kill zone every time for a 100% sure dead bird.
07-01-2013, 04:24 AM
#58
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Last edited by Topgun 3006; 07-01-2013 at 04:29 AM.
07-01-2013, 09:01 AM
#59
Typical Buck
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I personally don't know why he would even bother probably just bored, after your last post I knew there was no point !
07-01-2013, 12:22 PM
#60
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I think he needs to go back and read rule #8 that JW posted about not just posting to try and pick a fight with one another because that was certainly what that sarcastic, silly post was for! 
Last edited by Topgun 3006; 07-01-2013 at 12:24 PM.