I only used wd-40 in the barrel, but now understand there is some much better cleaners on the market.

Yes I did have my forcing cone done as I shoot the cheap Benelli Nova it had a very short 3/4 in cone. It made a difference I believe...

I guess my point to this thread is this:

Yes, a 20 gauge obviously can be made to shoot, as proved by the previous pictures have shown. But, if you have a 12 gauge now, I wouldn't run out to buy a 20 gauge and put all the money in it to get it to shoot like a 12 gauge if you already have one. Really, what's the point? If your talking a lighter gun, they have light weight 12 gauge's out on the market now. I guess I don't get all the fuss over a 20 gauge when the 12 works fine?

P.S. I'm talking adults here, not youth guns.

My daughter shoots a Mossberg 500 youth model that shoots patterns as good at 35 as my SBE II does. Jellyhead and Hevi-13's.

Well it's time to get in this 20 vs 12 ga. Probably 30+ years ago, I started turkey hunting with a single shot stevens in 20 ga, 26 inch barrel, plus full choke, no screw in tubes back then. I have no idea how many turkeys fell to that old gun and I still have it as a snake gun in my yard (lot of diamond backs, copper heads, and timber rattlers in my area). I started my son now 43 with that gun and he got his limit here in GA with it every year, which is 3 birds.

For years I wanted to go back to a single shot and bought one about 5 years ago that had a crossbolt saftey, no hammer. I had several modifications done to it and even put a scope on it, thanks to JW! It is in a 12 ga. and I believe JW! will back me up, it is a killing machine. Last season I took 3 birds with it, one at 62 steps and one at 64 steps, one at 10 steps. The last time JW! was here hunting with me I questioned/doubted I steped a yard, so we check my step/yardage and we found that at 50 steps I actually was only covering about 43 yards, JW! will have to correct this.

But back to the 20 ga. in 3 inch mag., it will a kill a bird that far with right shells. I'm, as JW!, geting older and now thinking about going back to a 20. Set up right, it will do the job.

My 2 cents and that's cause all I have (broke military retiree and loving it).

One other comment, I don't think JW! is coming down to hunt with me this year and is sad, what a great friend.

dog1

Paul your so right. Yes a 20 can be built to shoot just like a 12 but it does cost. The chances of a new off the shelf gun to perform the same distances is a fat chance...

Second vote for a 20 gauge, haha. Do some realize this is not a ballistics thingy it's more pointed at youth handling?

April 19, 2011 - 09:46hrs
47° F
Elev 2311ft
2 year old bird 1¼" Spurs
25lbs
1 7/8" Beard (Beard Rot Due to Mites)

Mossberg® Mdl 500C 20ga
Wrights® SWARM™ .555" choke
Winchester® Supreme® High Velocity 3" Mag 1200fps 1 5/16oz #4 Pb (STH2034)
Shot at 42yds
Bird was dead before his beak hit the dirt!
Who needs Hevi•Shot®, Federal® Heavyweight®, Remington® Wingmaster HD®, Winchester® Xtended Range® or TSS?

Pb will "Git-r-Done"!

Another proud and successfull owner of Wrights Superior Chokes.