If u are tired of paying so much for turkey loads try the 3 inch Federal Flight Control loads they work awsome and will not break the bank. I have used and tried many diferent expensive and non expensive loads and the Federals always seem to pattern better. I have used them for the last 3 years and have never had a bird ever get up from being shot with them. I shot a bird at 63 yards with these shells and the bird didn't even kick.

I have to recommend Nitro's. I know theyre expensive, but they ARE the best.

Last year i had several conversations with "MouthCaller", and after the first time i decided NOT to buy the Nitros. I realized i obviously still wasnt satisfied with my patterns, so after talking with him again, i finally listened, and ordered some H517's for my 835. I never believed it was possible to get a pattern as well as i got.

Im tellin ya man, you WILL NOT be dissappointed.