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gpower1 04-16-2008 01:22 AM

turkey roadside... ethics
 
i was drivin home today and say a GREAT gob struttin right by the road. i could have jumped out of my car and strangled him if i wanted... i didnt have my shotty in the car but if i did, im not sure if i would have pumped him one or kept on goin since it wasnt hunting and he was probably the dumbest turkey ive ever seen in my life. if you were in my position with the loaded 12 ga in your car, what would you have done

mouthcaller 04-16-2008 03:15 AM

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What is a shotty?



mauser06 04-16-2008 05:14 AM

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ive been in that position 1000000 times...all too common to see them in the fields...

what do i do??

i shoot them...or try to shoot them...all of them..




with my camera.

theres a lot more to turkey huntin than pulling a trigger. nothin like workin a bird into your setup...

wis_bow_huntr 04-16-2008 05:25 AM

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Shotty is southern talk for Shotgun....

kingvjack 04-16-2008 05:31 AM

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This a stupid thread. Not only is this illegal everywhere but its also not turkey hunting, in any sense.

txjourneyman 04-16-2008 05:32 AM

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So, you want to know who would break the law, poach a turkey, practice poor ethics, and use bad judgement?

shamlin 04-16-2008 06:29 AM

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No I would not have shot........... because they will burn your ass for that. Ethical or not that is a serious fine and they may revoke your hunting liscense, and take the turkey away.

Hooker 04-16-2008 07:31 AM

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The only way and I mean THE ONLY WAY, that I will ever go after a turkey that I see next to a road is the following:

1) He is on my lease or property
2) I am hunting
3) My truck did not spook him

Then I will drive up around a curve or hill, walk into the woods, try to get in front of him and call him in.

But if you are asking if I see a gobbler on the side of the road, in any field or woods, will I stick my gun out the window and shoot him??? HELL NO! [:@]

Tree climber 04-16-2008 07:42 AM

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ORIGINAL: wis_bow_huntr

Shotty is southern talk for Shotgun....
been "SHOUTERN" for 62 years and never heard that expresion.

as for shooting side of the road from a truck.

"It is ilegal,in my state"[&:]
"It is danger;you never know if someone is behind a bush"[:@]
"That is not hunting ; It is poaching"[:@][:@][:@][:@]

that very thing happened to my boss's son and a friend , just a week or two ago.they were working a bird in a pasture next to a dirt graded road.an "IDIOT" stop and fired two rounds,one at there decoy, one at the gobbler.he flew off. they hollered and they trunk left WFO.

"DO NOT SHOOT FROM THE ROAD ANY TIME" !!!![&:][:@][&:][:@] JMHO


Beezer 04-16-2008 08:59 AM

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Same thing I already did, pull the truck off the road and watch the show. We did this once and it allowed me, my wife and my son to see it in all it's glory in real life rather than on tv. It's a beautiful sight in real life....one that I haven't gotten to see yet because the turkeys I've killed just walked in without strutting and once they were close enough they were down. If I never have one strut in front of my blind I'll be happy anyway, I'm not taking the chance at losing one just to watch a show.

JW 04-16-2008 09:04 AM

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I'd be the guy around the corner that would turn you in to the warden and call the sherrif in an instant!

You just poached! Let alone probably broke some other law(s) in one way or another. Main point is you left your ethics in the truck.

JW

Simp 04-16-2008 12:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: Tree climber


been "SHOUTERN" for 62 years and never heard that expresion.

Same here. Born and raised in rural south Georgia and never heard that'n. Must be the "Pepsi generation" or something.;)

Canned Heat 04-16-2008 02:29 PM

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I thought "shotty" was a description for how well (or in this caseunwell), something was built.

What do I know?....Just a stinkin' cheesehead Yank.

Canned Heat 04-16-2008 02:38 PM

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I haven't done it with a trophy buck, so I no doubt wouldn't try it with a gobbler...no matter how big and bearded. Too much at stake.



shamlin 04-16-2008 02:49 PM

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The term "shotty" is used in the x-box game Halo. At least that is the only place I have heard it. I perfer to call it a "scatter gun"

levelgrape 04-16-2008 03:27 PM

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Agree with JW 150%...That is one thing I try tocram into my hunters ed students NOT to do. I would turn you in in heart beat. You are screwing things up for the responsible hunters the ethical and moral ones. I am not willing to loose my rights as a hunter for some dumb hick hunter poaching from the truck or roadside.

mouthcaller 04-16-2008 03:30 PM

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I've lived in the South my entire life and never heard anyone refer to a shotgun as a "shotty". The only reference to shotty was when a southerner described something of poor quality as "shotty".

I think this original question, asked by a kid I believe, was properly answered. It is illegal to shoot from the road in mos(if not all) states and, unless the poster owned the property, would be considered poaching and tresspassing.

tschaef 04-16-2008 05:38 PM

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Hey guys, I'm pretty sure that something of poor construction is refered to as "shoddy", not shotty.

Back to the topic; highly illegal in Ontario, we can't shoot a gun within 50yrds of any maintained roadway. Its arguable if we can have a loaded gun in a car, most cops would arrest you on the spot, but a good lawyer could argue that since it was under your care and control it wouldn't constitute unsafe storage. Try one of those gun holders in the back window in southern Ontario and you will find yourself in the back of the 1st cop car that sees you. We are taught that they belong locked in the trunk, or at least covered with a blanked so someone that can't pass a background check won't steal it.

X Legion General 04-16-2008 06:34 PM

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Yea, shoot it then have it mounted so that every time you look at it you have that feeling of utter satisfaction, of working hard and fooling a boss gobbler. Then you can pass it down to your kids and tell them the awesome story of that long ago great hunt, while you were still in your prime.

Arrowmaster 04-16-2008 08:37 PM

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There is no way Im shooting from my vehicle. In most states thats against the law. That is called poaching in my book. Unless you possess a handicap hunting license. But then you have to be off the road so far.

Shawn Perkins 04-17-2008 08:55 AM

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wered you shoot that bird??

-"from the road"-

wow...your a really good hunter!


NOT

Beezer 04-17-2008 05:46 PM

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shotty? You guys mean "shoddy?" Which means crappy and put together like you don't care?

lnen#1 04-17-2008 08:56 PM

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I like my truck and my guns and my privledge to hunt...its soooooooo tempting though. No if you killed it and got away with it you would have to lie about it for the rest of your life, there's no pride in it.

kpatte26 04-17-2008 09:02 PM

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Ok first I have to say that whoever thinks this way is competely retarded! In addition to that thinking like this is ASSININE! Not only does that give cannon fodder to the anti hunting agenda but it is also
highly illegal, completely immoral, and highly unethical!
The next time you happen to be riding down the road and you have a hair brained idea like this take an additional moment to think this idea over in comparision:
Do I want to slam my car/truck door shut on my penis while I have an erection?
I would hope the answer would be a resounding no way in hell?
Well shooting at something from the side of the road or out of yourvehicleis equal to slamming your vehicle door shut on your erection... Not very intelligent!

Turkey Fife 04-17-2008 09:20 PM

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Shotty could mean he is of the "Gay Generation" or something"[:o]:);):D[&o][:'(]????? I don't know!!!!

Canned Heat 04-18-2008 07:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: kpatte26

Ok first I have to say that whoever thinks this way is competely retarded! In addition to that thinking like this is ASSININE! Not only does that give cannon fodder to the anti hunting agenda but it is also
highly illegal, completely immoral, and highly unethical!
The next time you happen to be riding down the road and you have a hair brained idea like this take an additional moment to think this idea over in comparision:
Do I want to slam my car/truck door shut on my penis while I have an erection?
I would hope the answer would be a resounding no way in hell?
Well shooting at something from the side of the road or out of yourvehicleis equal to slamming your vehicle door shut on your erection... Not very intelligent!
Fantastic.

I've got a feeling someone's been "hunting" in the nude before...I gotta admit, I never thought I'd see the words "erection" and "penis" on a hunting forum.

kpatte...that's f-ing hilarious. Metaphorically speaking.

man of death 04-18-2008 01:22 PM

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You guys must be idiots to bite on this crap especially - the guy that says I would turn you in - in a heart beat . I am real sure this hand would ask your advice and expect someone to advise him to take the shot.

SwampCollie 04-18-2008 05:55 PM

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I would have seized that opportunity and shot him.......











with a camera. Be grateful for the chance to see one up close like that. I'm not one to harp on ethics and laws and whatnot, what you do is up to you, but personally I'd rather have one come to me than me go to one... although anyone who used the term "shotty" on a regular basis probably would be decent doing drive bys..... Best of luck with it... remember to compensate for lead when you are driving faster than 20 mph....

Mr. Longbeard 04-18-2008 05:56 PM

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I'm sure it happens every day of the season... And I'd be willing to bet that some of them make it to this forum;)

Charlie P 04-19-2008 07:34 AM

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I'm sure it happens every day of the season... And I'd be willing to bet that some of them make it to this forum;) [align=right]
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Talking about yourself?

ultimag 04-19-2008 07:49 AM

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I passed on 2 opportunities last week on nice gobblers off the road. I wll tell you that most people around where I hunt would have taken the shot.

kpatte26 04-20-2008 10:10 PM

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I must clarify that I have never been hunting in the nude nor will I ever do so!
I also forgot in my moment of disgust that if someone is travelling down the road with a loaded weapon that would be illegal... at least here in Pennsylvania it is... So not only are you committing a violation of game law but you are also committing a violation of state law... Deoending on your state crime codes... but I do not think that it varies that much from one state to the next.
Wow you really must want the anti-hunting agenda to have all the more reason to outlaw hunting as well as gun ownership!
Genious!


huntnma 04-21-2008 03:20 AM

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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

millagerobert 04-21-2008 12:17 PM

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Passed this guy up this weekend because he was on the side of the road, shot him with my camera instead. Not a big bearded Tom, but when hunting them in the steep national forest ground of Idaho any turkey is a good turkey.


Mr. Longbeard 04-21-2008 01:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Charlie P


I'm sure it happens every day of the season... And I'd be willing to bet that some of them make it to this forum;) [align=right]
[/align]
Talking about yourself?

I'm not nieve and think that everybody that huntsis ethical;) I'd be willing to bet my life that over 50% of the people running around in the woodsbreak some kind of game law every season... You need to get out of the fantisy land that you live in DA[:-]

hootnscoot 04-21-2008 11:52 PM

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Mr. Longbeard, have you ever broken a game law? Are you in the 50%? Bet your life? Wow.

Pot callingthe kettle black? or do you prefer Those in glass houses should not throw stones?

Sounds kinda shotty (shoddy) to me :eek:

MKMGOBL 04-22-2008 01:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: gpower1

i was drivin home today and say a GREAT gob struttin right by the road. i could have jumped out of my car and strangled him if i wanted... i didnt have my shotty in the car but if i did, im not sure if i would have pumped him one or kept on goin since it wasnt hunting and he was probably the dumbest turkey ive ever seen in my life. if you were in my position with the loaded 12 ga in your car, what would you have done
I probably would have stopped a shot a round off in the air in hopes of educating him. Educating himforsomeday down the road,when the dumbest"so call hunter"I've heard about in my life stops and shoots him!

Are you for real or this some kind of bet or dare you're buddies put you up to asking? I sure hopeit's a dare and you're really not that stupid :( Here's your sign!


Shoot him with a camera and make it a season challenge to get him the right way. I'm sure if you did it that way you would learn just how stupid that gobbler is. He would probably give you a few good leason ;)




kingvjack 04-23-2008 05:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: Mr. Longbeard


ORIGINAL: Charlie P


I'm sure it happens every day of the season... And I'd be willing to bet that some of them make it to this forum;) [align=right]
[/align]
Talking about yourself?

I'm not nieve and think that everybody that huntsis ethical;) I'd be willing to bet my life that over 50% of the people running around in the woodsbreak some kind of game law every season... You need to get out of the fantisy land that you live in DA[:-]
I would have to agree... You can google gun or hunting accidents and see the number of people who are out hunting without educational course certificates... That in its self is totally against the law.
So, I'd be willing to bet that there are quite a few people who perform illegal acts on this board, more than enough have admitted to not being safe, so why all legal?

MarquetteMagnum 04-23-2008 05:34 AM

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ORIGINAL: kingvjack


ORIGINAL: Mr. Longbeard


ORIGINAL: Charlie P


I'm sure it happens every day of the season... And I'd be willing to bet that some of them make it to this forum;) [align=right]
[/align]
Talking about yourself?

I'm not nieve and think that everybody that huntsis ethical;) I'd be willing to bet my life that over 50% of the people running around in the woodsbreak some kind of game law every season... You need to get out of the fantisy land that you live in DA[:-]
I would have to agree... You can google gun or hunting accidents and see the number of people who are out hunting without educational course certificates... That in its self is totally against the law.
So, I'd be willing to bet that there are quite a few people who perform illegal acts on this board, more than enough have admitted to not being safe, so why all legal?

I also agree. And will say that not all illegal acts are rightfully wrong. in this case you bet your apple basket its wrong.

Jasonlester 04-23-2008 05:55 AM

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ORIGINAL: hootnscoot

Mr. Longbeard, have you ever broken a game law? Are you in the 50%? Bet your life? Wow.

Pot callingthe kettle black? or do you prefer Those in glass houses should not throw stones?

Sounds kinda shotty (shoddy) to me :eek:
hootnscoot,
I think he's referring to people willfully and knowingly breaking a game law. Sure people break some laws and don't know it. but when they learn it they should follow it even if they don't agree.




Here it would be illegal to have a loaded shotgun in your vehicle. It is also illegal to shoot from the road. This is common knowlege here and anyone doing so would be breaking the law knowingly. Its not hunting its poaching.


I am amazed these posts pop up all the time on here. Guys if you want to continue to hunt in the future you have to follow game laws no matter if you agree with them or not. Acts like shooting a animal from the road just to say you killed one gives all hunters a bad name, even though I would not call the act hunting in any way. The media is bent on making our sport look bad. Alot of people would be fine with them doing away with hunting altogether. Poachers are not hunters but are looked apon by the media as such. They make hunters look like a bunch of drunken idiots out in the woods shooting at anything that moves. I find it sad that people see it this way and believe the only way to keep our right to hunt around is to be as good of a hunter as possible. I mean follow the laws and not acting like an idiot for the public to see (acting like an idiot in private is pefectly fine LOL :) )

If you want to continue to hunt in the future think about what you do everyday and how it could effect hunting.




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