shotgun pattern
03-18-2008 | 08:34 AM
#31
Nontypical Buck
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From: Where the ducks don't come no more
RE: shotgun pattern
ORIGINAL: superstrutter
I've got ducks, but not like it used to be. You know the story I'm sure. Swamp, you going blind man. Only old blind people use scopes to hunt turkeys.
ORIGINAL: SwampCollie
If you've got ducks I'd gladly drive down there in the winter and let you shoot the gun yourself
I put a 2-7x32 scope on the gun two springs ago and haven't missed a bird with it since. In the spring of 2006 I shot a bird at 18 yards and nearly took his head off. Took another one at about 25 and a third at 35. Only shot one with the bow last spring. Having the scope helps a lot with close shots I suspect. That and having the bird hold still for a second.
ORIGINAL: superstrutter
What are you calling a sloppy pattern? You don't have to have 200 plus hits at 40 to kill a bird at or beyond 40. If you have over 100 at 40, that's going to be a dead bird. I personally, would rather have a little more open pattern than what some of you are describing. I know I can kill him at 50 if I need to, but I also know I will have no problem killing him at 10 or 15. I'm not knocking anyone who loves a real tight pattern at 40 and beyond. I would like to see though, in person, not a picture on a computer, 300 hits in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards.
What are you calling a sloppy pattern? You don't have to have 200 plus hits at 40 to kill a bird at or beyond 40. If you have over 100 at 40, that's going to be a dead bird. I personally, would rather have a little more open pattern than what some of you are describing. I know I can kill him at 50 if I need to, but I also know I will have no problem killing him at 10 or 15. I'm not knocking anyone who loves a real tight pattern at 40 and beyond. I would like to see though, in person, not a picture on a computer, 300 hits in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards.
If you've got ducks I'd gladly drive down there in the winter and let you shoot the gun yourself
I put a 2-7x32 scope on the gun two springs ago and haven't missed a bird with it since. In the spring of 2006 I shot a bird at 18 yards and nearly took his head off. Took another one at about 25 and a third at 35. Only shot one with the bow last spring. Having the scope helps a lot with close shots I suspect. That and having the bird hold still for a second.
I leave it on 2x. Honestly I wanted a 1-4x but the shop I was at didn't have one, and I liked the 2-7x. The fiber optic sights that came standard on the gun would not adjust the pattern down far enough. I would of had to shoot at the bottom tip of a birds beard to center punch the head with the pattern. That was the main reason behind the scope. With removable rings, it was pulling double duty as a turkey and muzzleloader scope... went out and bought another one like it for the smoke pole
03-18-2008 | 08:38 AM
#32
Nontypical Buck
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From: Lake County, Il
RE: shotgun pattern
Yeah, best I could get from my Moss500 w/undertaker choke shooting Remington Nitro #4(lead) was 26 at a 9" paper plate at 40 yds. Since I don't intend on shooting any birds farther than 35yds i'd say this is enough and I'm too cheap to keep buying chokes and $3 shells just for fun,but hey that's me I know a lot on you find this hobby a lot of fun!
03-18-2008 | 11:20 AM
#33
Nontypical Buck
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From: Where the ducks don't come no more
RE: shotgun pattern
ORIGINAL: Simp
But we're talking about Hevishot, not lead. A Hevishot pellet has roughly the same amount of energy at any given distance as a lead pellet 2 sizes bigger. In other words, a #7 Hevishot pellet has the same amount of energy as a #5 lead pellet. That's one of the biggest pro's of Hevishot. You can get away with shooting a smaller pellet and still haveenough downrange energy to kill.
But we're talking about Hevishot, not lead. A Hevishot pellet has roughly the same amount of energy at any given distance as a lead pellet 2 sizes bigger. In other words, a #7 Hevishot pellet has the same amount of energy as a #5 lead pellet. That's one of the biggest pro's of Hevishot. You can get away with shooting a smaller pellet and still haveenough downrange energy to kill.
How about that second picture/link you posted up Simp....
I'm telling you, when it comes to nasty turkey guns you cannot stop the 10 gauge. Its like a deaf mute in the Miss America contest.... unbeatable. Thats why so many of us shoot 835s with those over bored 10 gauge barrels...
I've been on the range with a few guys I know that shoot 10 gauges, and one of them really stands out. That gun, I am confident, would put over 100 hits in a 10" at 65 yards, perhaps even 70. He has told me of what the gun can do, and says he has killed birds out to 70 with it. He's not really the kinda guy who needs to exaggerate. He uses a Rhino and Nitro's himself. Nasty nasty combination.
03-18-2008 | 11:32 AM
#34
Typical Buck
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From: vermont
RE: shotgun pattern
Why even shoot a turkey out to 65 70 yards whats the excitment you should just bring a 30-30 or 30-06 out if you want to shoot that far thats just my opinion. but any way back to the point at 40 yards im happy with 30 hits head and neck
03-18-2008 | 01:56 PM
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From: DFW
RE: shotgun pattern
ORIGINAL: ryncam16
Why even shoot a turkey out to 65 70 yards whats the excitment you should just bring a 30-30 or 30-06 out if you want to shoot that far thats just my opinion. but any way back to the point at 40 yards im happy with 30 hits head and neck
Why even shoot a turkey out to 65 70 yards whats the excitment you should just bring a 30-30 or 30-06 out if you want to shoot that far thats just my opinion. but any way back to the point at 40 yards im happy with 30 hits head and neck
03-18-2008 | 01:59 PM
#36
Nontypical Buck
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From: DFW
RE: shotgun pattern
ORIGINAL: SwampCollie
Yep.
How about that second picture/link you posted up Simp....
I'm telling you, when it comes to nasty turkey guns you cannot stop the 10 gauge. Its like a deaf mute in the Miss America contest.... unbeatable. Thats why so many of us shoot 835s with those over bored 10 gauge barrels...
I've been on the range with a few guys I know that shoot 10 gauges, and one of them really stands out. That gun, I am confident, would put over 100 hits in a 10" at 65 yards, perhaps even 70. He has told me of what the gun can do, and says he has killed birds out to 70 with it. He's not really the kinda guy who needs to exaggerate. He uses a Rhino and Nitro's himself. Nasty nasty combination.
Yep.
How about that second picture/link you posted up Simp....
I'm telling you, when it comes to nasty turkey guns you cannot stop the 10 gauge. Its like a deaf mute in the Miss America contest.... unbeatable. Thats why so many of us shoot 835s with those over bored 10 gauge barrels...
I've been on the range with a few guys I know that shoot 10 gauges, and one of them really stands out. That gun, I am confident, would put over 100 hits in a 10" at 65 yards, perhaps even 70. He has told me of what the gun can do, and says he has killed birds out to 70 with it. He's not really the kinda guy who needs to exaggerate. He uses a Rhino and Nitro's himself. Nasty nasty combination.
03-18-2008 | 02:11 PM
#37
Nontypical Buck
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From: Allegany County Maryland
RE: shotgun pattern
Haha call me unethical I guess but I will be out there with an old westernfield 12gaugeshotgun w/ modified barrell and whatever shells(probably winchester)I can pick up from wal-mart a couple days before season or whatever they got leftand will have no worries!
Gd Luck guys!!
Gd Luck guys!!
03-18-2008 | 08:26 PM
#39
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From: Where the ducks don't come no more
RE: shotgun pattern
ORIGINAL: ryncam16
Why even shoot a turkey out to 65 70 yards whats the excitment you should just bring a 30-30 or 30-06 out if you want to shoot that far thats just my opinion. but any way back to the point at 40 yards im happy with 30 hits head and neck
Why even shoot a turkey out to 65 70 yards whats the excitment you should just bring a 30-30 or 30-06 out if you want to shoot that far thats just my opinion. but any way back to the point at 40 yards im happy with 30 hits head and neck
Save your preaching son. You are talking a man who has spent hundreds of dollars and countless hours in pursuit of a gun that will kill at 60 yards, and the same man won't shoot them until they are inside of 35. A hell of a lot of sense I make don't I?
03-19-2008 | 07:51 AM
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From: Pa
RE: shotgun pattern
ORIGINAL: WesternMdHardwoods
Haha call me unethical I guess but I will be out there with an old westernfield 12gaugeshotgun w/ modified barrell and whatever shells(probably winchester)I can pick up from wal-mart a couple days before season or whatever they got leftand will have no worries!
Gd Luck guys!!
Haha call me unethical I guess but I will be out there with an old westernfield 12gaugeshotgun w/ modified barrell and whatever shells(probably winchester)I can pick up from wal-mart a couple days before season or whatever they got leftand will have no worries!
Gd Luck guys!!
Dude you ruined it for me... I thought for sure you were a serious turkey hunter
