RE: shotgun pattern
Yeah, best I could get from my Moss500 w/undertaker choke shooting Remington Nitro #4(lead) was 26 at a 9" paper plate at 40 yds. Since I don't intend on shooting any birds farther than 35yds i'd say this is enough and I'm too cheap to keep buying chokes and $3 shells just for fun,but hey that's me I know a lot on you find this hobby a lot of fun!