I patterned my gun a few days ago using winchester supreme 3" #6 and it shot about 5" left and 3" low on every shot at 35 yards. Just enough to make me feel I could have missed a turkey with the shot. My friend says it could be that I need a back reference for my sight. I've thought about getting a Triviz combo sight http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=55901&hvarTarget=sea rch&cmCat=SearchResults
Or a Red Head Red Dot sight http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=49658&hvarDept=400&a mp;hvarEvent=&hvarClassCode=1&hvarSubCode= 3&hvarTarget=browse
Which of these would you guys suggest?

To start , it could have something to do with the brand of ammo you are using. I've seen this quit often in different brand testing.

Now as you got the idea that if you do not want to change brands. you'll need to apply a sight that will take over this off set pattern.

The decission is more of your preferance as to what you want to look at when your hunting. Glow sights can work but if the pattern is off bad you still may not get it perfect. Scope or Red dot maybe the only way tomake the gun shoot and make you happy...

You did not mention what type of shotgun. If it is something you can not live with, then take it to a competant smith, and have it bent to the right spot, if it is a single barrel. Bending a barrel is an art, but there arepeople out there that can do it. Double's are much harder.

Changing or putting on a back sight is a band aid. If the barrel is bent, where ever you sight dead on, it will be different at another distance. Most people live with the handicap and learn how to aim their shotgun at different distances.

Just the fact that you are patterning your gun shows you are a serious shooter. Most people go into the woods never shooting their shotgun. Good luck. Tom.

I had the HiViz on a mossberg 835 that I used to own and it helped me kill the biggest gobbler I have ever shot (1.625" spurs, 2 beards one of the 10.5" and the other 6.25"). One thing I didn't like about it is the rear sight would get bumped loose on my 835. It was only held in place by a single screw that went under the vented rib. It had a tendency to slide some. I never have tried a red dot...

If you gun is a field grade gun with a low comb stock this can cause low shots. A bird gun(pheasant/duck) is made to be pointed and not aimed like a rifle. If you place your cheek on the stock your eye will be lower than the back of the barrel causing you to dip the barrel to get on target. There are kits for raising the comb on a shotgun,but you can experiment with padding taped to the stock to see if it works for you. If you put a scope on it then you won't need this but it will make it more comfortable to aim.