it has been a week and 3 days almost shot a turkey opening day but well my dad saw 2 of them and he was waiting for them to get close to the decoys but then they left we shouldnt of waitedbut ok last saturday my dad and I were in the the same spot where we always hear a gobble or something(our favorite spot) so it was like 6:30 or so and we hear a tom in a tree so we set up and call he answers so its going awsome but then all of the suden it gets quiet i didnt over call but why didnt he come to my decoys or even get close? see this coming saturday im going with my dad again to that same spot and i was thinking to use a owl call to find out where he is and setup near him so my question is what do you think about it? what do you think about my idea? or if you have any ideas im listening oh by the way i can still use my slate call right, when im setup close to him?

To the best of my understanding he got smart.
He got qiuet because he knew something wasn't just right.
When a tom gets quiet just
keep watching he will most likely still be there
just he is more cautous and looking for where the sounds are from.

Another thing I have learned when he gets quiet you get quiet to.
And just keep looking for his head to pop up.

Try setting the decoys up in a different way
from how they were the last time.

I hope this helps Good Luck

yup sure did help thanks

but what about this?
i was thinking to use a owl call to find out where he is and setup near him so my question is what do you think about it? what do you think about my idea? or if you have any ideas im listening oh by the way i can still use my slate call right, when im setup close to him?

I would only use the owl call when its dark.

You could put the hen on the ground with a rock inside to keep her up.
And put the jake or tom just behind her like he is getting ready to get it on.

From what I have heard and seen it will make the tom really mad that
someone has one of his girlfriends.

And it just might make him come running for a fight.
Like I seen on huntung shows and have heard.
Any way thats what I intend to do next time I go.
Maybe tomorow its supossed to be thunderstorms here today.
And my kids are home from school.

Good Luck

thanks jrbsr thats what i need thanks