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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
buy a Moultrie I40 and don't worry about battery life 
And..that you would, I purchased an 08' I40 a week ago that I am currently selling, the trigger is no where near satisfactory in a $200 camera. I know the 07's are quicker but they are still at least 1.5-2sec Overall the Scoutguard SG550's edge out the I40 (07 or 08). |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
got my I-40 back today, they tested it to death and found NO PROBLEMS.
YES,mine is 2008 model. my pictures were GRAINY, guess what they found. they figure that i looked at pictures on a LARGE SCREEN TV,they were right, my samsung is 61 inch dlp. they said,YOU CANT VIEW THE PICTURES ON BIG SCREEN TV. might pass this on to others. they said smaller tvs and computer is where to look at pictures. so, i guess my i-40 was not broke,it was my TV. sorry for getting off the 550 .:eek: |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
ORIGINAL: Bee Busy Outdoors ORIGINAL: sproulman for what we pay for these cameras,you would think they would work. ALL from what i read are having problems. my MOULTRIE i-40 is broke again taking awful pictures, thats 2 in 1 month new. camera industry SHOULD warrranty the junk they are selling for 3 years,maybe that would wake them up .[:@] Joe MOULTRIE is coming out with something new that they feel will be exciting .:D cant find out as it is being kept quiet,for now.:eek: |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
The cam was purchased after 7/21. I tested every battery with my meter and they were all low. Just this week a buddy purchased a SG550 and when he put his batteries in he noticed the IR LEDs were glowing and would not go out. This with the power switch off. He took it back and got a new one that is working fine but it shows they do have a few glitches. I still love mine. I checked the same camera that had the dead batteries last night. After being out for 3 days and after only 84 pictures, the batteries were at 2/3. My other camera has had over a thousand pics still with 2/3 on the battery. Not sure why this cam has a higher drain.
How do you determine what firmware you have? ORIGINAL: Bee Busy Outdoors On the first part, I am assuming your cam was purchased after 07/21? That symptom of the battery is 2 things. First is the cams purchased before 07/21 do not have the firmware and this was one of the major glitches, battery drain. If this is the case, you need to download the new firmware. If it has the firmware, it could be a bad battery or 2 or 3. Even though they are brand new, they can still be defective. I like to test my batteries with a volt meter before I place them in the cam and out in the field. As for the reddish tint. It could be a few things. The IR cut off could be malfunctioning. Also it could be how the cam is placed. Facing the sun? Under a canopy of trees. Lighting could through it off. This can be reset by removing the batteries for a while, then reinstalling it. To test the IR Cut off, you have to be able to see night pics or videos. If not, then its a defective IR cut off. Pretty rare so far. Let me know how that works for you............. Joe |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
Here is a test to make sure you have the latest firmware. Take some pics at 5MP with 3 picture bursts by walking in front of it or just wave your hands. Go back and look at the pics. New firmware will show the pics at 3-4 seconds apart. Old firmware will show the pics at 6-7 seconds apart............ If they are 6-7 seconds apart, then you need the new firmware but if you purchased after 07/21 chances are you have the new firmware. Did you purchase it from me or another dealer? If the pics are 6-7 seconds apart, you might have an old stock which is rare but not impossible. Let me know how that goes. Also, what brand of batteries do you use?
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
beebusy, thats not exactly an accurate way to test them. Not all the cams without the firmware upgrade had the slow response between pictures. My first scoutguard took three shots in a total of 3-4 seconds regularly. It displayed none of the problems other than alot of whiteouts. Now that the firmware update has been completed in this camera, I get 3 shots in around 5 seconds regularly and way less whiteouts. My three shot mode actually slowed slightly, but whiteouts were reduced significantly. Everything else seems to have remained about the same.
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
What is the accurate way to test them? This is confirmed with the reviewers of chasingame and HCO. Whatever it takes to trigger the cams. The cam has been extensively tested and reviewed by chasingame and the cams generally did what I stated. If yours didnt, well then, congrats.
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
I don't know of an accurate way to test them, I'm just passing on an experience I had with my camera which disproved your theory.I think the problems with the cams before the upgrade were so widely different that there is no single test to tell with every single camera. Wish there was. The best way to tell is to look at your receipt! If it was purchased before7-20-08 then it needs the update. I almost didn't do the update to this camera simply because it was working so well, but decided to anyway. It was shipped from HCO in or around 6-14-08, my first pics were on the 6th.
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
Turned unit off hooked up the RC , power on and only back lite was on( no info from unit). Then I seen the blue LED for low power . Took home the cam to test the batteries to find .9,.9,.9,.9 on one side and 1.7,1.7, 1.7,1.7 on the other . Does this seem normal ? Thought this cams were switching automatically?
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
The blue light means low power (time to change batteries). What do you mean by switching? You lost me the there. .9 and 1.7, are you referring to volts?
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
cam can run on 4 or 8 batteries. This cam seems to use 4 batteries (one side) and then the LED comes on while the other 4 batteries are not used. Yes .9 volts and 1.7 volts.
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
HMMM, not sure why it would drain 4 batteries and not all.... I'd put8 brand new batteries in the camera and put it in a high traffic area like the kids playroom or the office and see what it does. Set it to take 3 shots every 30 seconds and leave it for a couple days. That should simulate several weeks in the woods under normal conditions. See what happens then. Check your batteries to see if they have different voltage readings. I know the cams will work with 4 batteries installed closest to the hinge, but will nor work with just 4 batteries on the other side. If the batteries are dead that are closest to the hinge then I'd say there is a short or something.
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
ORIGINAL: rasorbackq cam can run on 4 or 8 batteries. This cam seems to use 4 batteries (one side) and then the LED comes on while the other 4 batteries are not used. Yes .9 volts and 1.7 volts. Joe |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
all were tested at 1.7 volts. just seemed out that one side was dead and one side was full power but yet the cam was dead.
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
i have a set of duracell batterys that are in my moultrie i-40that are 3 years old that are stamped to last to 2011.
after 236 shots it showing 95%.:eek: |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
I had the cam set up in the yard as a test . It would be nothing to get 300-500 pics a day of the free range chickens and turkeys. Batteries lasted for weeks. Ate through 4 batteries in 10 days last time . But put the video to use. between 50-62 50 sec videos ea day for a week . Most at night. Cam was never off Cant complain about that...
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
I've read a lot of good about this camera and plan to buy one in the future but I doubt I will before it supports sd cards bigger than 2gb. We should be seeing cameras support 8gb cards anymore with the price of them.
A 2gb card in my 6mp Moultrie with daytime video and night flash will fill in 7days which is why I run 4gb cards. Has anyone tried putting a 4gb card in one of these SG 550's to see if it will see it? |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
I tried that. Won't work:( Not sure if they have that in the future for it. If I hear anything I'll pass it along...........
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
looks like a great camera. I might get one next time I am ready to buy. I got an I40 too and I love it. Very satisfied
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
ORIGINAL: Bee Busy Outdoors I tried that. Won't work:( Not sure if they have that in the future for it. If I hear anything I'll pass it along........... Joe |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
Sounds great! Thanks. There may be some changes in 2009 but not sure if it will involve upping the gb. As soon as I know, you all will know :)
To be honest 2GB isnt so bad. 2000mb. My night video at 30secs average 10-11 mb each I like to set the intervals atleast 1-3 minutes apart or longer not to waste pics on the same thing....... Pics are less mb....... Joe |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
I couldnt image anyone needing anymore then a 2GB card...
Lets say you have your videos set to 30sec length @ 10mb each in Joes situation, 2048mb/10mb would be 204 videos! Most of the time even a 20 sec video is overkill so you could figure on even more then that One of my two SG550's are out monitoring, I cannot wait to check it in a few weeks:) |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
Hey Joe, fancy seeing you here ! It's been a good while since I've been in these particular forums, but I thought I'd chime in that I'm still loving BOTH of my SG's even without doing the update.
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
ORIGINAL: outdoorsfellar Hey Joe, fancy seeing you here ! It's been a good while since I've been in these particular forums, but I thought I'd chime in that I'm still loving BOTH of my SG's even without doing the update. |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
Here are a bunch of videos of what I got on my SG550 the first time I put it out. Not sure why the bears like to play with it so much, but it seemed to have held up to the paws and snouts...
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
I you handle any bait or food prior to the camera setup you will be asking for problems with the bears. Do all your work with the camera and then set out the bait . Next time you may not be that lucky.
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
I have been using my ScoutGuard for about two months. Rain has not been a problem. The camera is small, easier to conceal, and simple to set up and use.Photos are acceptable and trigger seems reasonably fast. I like this little camera.
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Great pic !
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
Was just talking to the Canadian Rep for these Cams , he tells me there is a new cam out in the new year built by the same company that builds Scout Guard cams.
1) It will have a viewer built in to the remote 2) Run on 2 AAs 3) Up to 8 Meg cards 4) More IR LEDs so up to 50 ' pics and videos. 5) Software will include moon phase Prototypes will be tested very soon. |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
ORIGINAL: rasorbackq Was just talking to the Canadian Rep for these Cams , he tells me there is a new cam out in the new year built by the same company that builds Scout Guard cams. 1) It will have a viewer built in to the remote 2) Run on 2 AAs 3) Up to 8 Meg cards 4) More IR LEDs so up to 50 ' pics and videos. 5) Software will include moon phase Prototypes will be tested very soon. Run on 2 AA batteries? How is that possible? What about battery life? It reminded me of what Predator promised in Cabelas catalog. Here is a thread on the topic http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=768599 I hope the canadian rep you talked to can deliver all the claimed new features. That'll be super super NICE!:eek: Also, who will test the prototype?[:-] |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
Some of those claims I can confirm, some of them I don't know about. I have not heard about 2 AA's. alot of it is yet to be disclosed, but the prototypes are suppose to be here VERY SOON. here is a dealer site where they'll be available www.covertscoutingcamera.com and the distributor's site www.dlccovert.com the distributor site has some early pictures of the units and some specs
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
It seems like Scout Guard with a new plastic cover. Except for the apperance, what's the difference with Scout Guard?
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
The biggest difference that I'm aware of is several more LED's and a wider dispersal of IR eliminating the "Tunnel Vision" that is present in the current version of the Covert cams. KGLI is the only Canadian distributor of scoutguards that I'm aware of. They are working with DLC, the US Distributor of Covert, to develop this new camera which will be sold as a Covert in both canada and the US.
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This Covert Cam does it have the viewer built in to the remote??
I was talking with the Canada importer . |
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
ORIGINAL: rasorbackq http://www.huntingcamerasonline.com/ I don't think the drawing is correct but here is the write up. What a copycat, lol Forest, RUN! :D |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
In reality its the same camera just a different distributor. There are laws about both dealers selling across the border.
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
yeah its the exact same... I don't see what the big deal was on the website? Its a scoutguard cam.
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RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
ORIGINAL: Derag2 yeah its the exact same... I don't see what the big deal was on the website? Its a scoutguard cam. http://www.pbase.com/huntingcamonline/hco_huntingcamonline_sg550_field_pictures&page =2 http://www.pbase.com/huntingcamonline/hco_huntingcamonline_sg550_field_pictures&page =3 Look at the chasingame pictures. They were used on canadian's website with no credits. Did they even ask Chasingame's permission to use these pictures? Not mentioning that they even hided chasingame's logo... If you look at the pictures of bear,in HCO's album, there's "thanks don!" print on the upper left corner. On this canadian's website, the prints were HIDDEN AGAIN :D Looks like, the difference is, we aretalking abouta dishonest person, not mentioning if it's a business entity. So difference is INTEGRITY I think[8D] I've never been cheated by a seller myself (rarely at least).If this one really sells a camera with the claimed features, I'll WAIT A LONG TIME before everyone else give me their honest opinions on the transactions[&:] RUN, FOREST, RUN, this phrase can't run from my mind:DI laughed too hard, sorry:D:D |
RE: Scout Guard SG 550. Next Best Camera?
ORIGINAL: rasorbackq In reality its the same camera just a different distributor. There are laws about both dealers selling across the border. |
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