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What is the difference in blak powders [2Fg]

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Old 01-29-2019, 09:05 AM
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Default What is the difference in blak powders [2Fg]

Goex-Swiss - Schuetzen and the others ?
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Old 01-29-2019, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mounting man View Post
Goex-Swiss - Schuetzen and the others ?
I would like to know once and for all ! The facts that is .
The ones you mentioned are all real black powders. All have the same 3 ingredients but in a little different ratios and process in making the powder. All different companies. Swiss gets the most care in making the powder and is the most powerful. What else did you want to know?

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Swiss 2F is also a bit finer grain that the others.
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:19 PM
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How do they rate in being barrel fouling ?
How about power per equal loadings ?
If using Swiss how much less would you use if you you load 70 gr. of Goex 2 ffg

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Originally Posted by mounting man View Post
How do they rate in being barrel fouling ?
How about power per equal loadings ?
If using Swiss how much less would you use if you you load 70 gr. of Goex 2 ffg
Swiss burns a little cleaner but it's still black powder and dirty. 60gr of Swiss would probably still have a bit more fps. I hesitate to say 55g but that might be the right answer.
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Old 01-29-2019, 01:37 PM
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I have found on average that Swiss will give about 3-5% more muzzle velocity than regular Goex and about 1-2% more than Goex OE if that. Other than the MV difference, Swiss is much more consistent in weight and granule size. As Muley Hunter pointed out, Swiss is much more tightly controlled in their production than Goex. Goex OE is better but still not as consistent.
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Here's some tests done with the two powders. It's 3F but will give you an idea. tests were done by paia.

100 grns SwissFFF
1937 fps
1978 fps

100 grns GoexFFF
1681 fps
1729 fps

90 grns SwissFFF
1858 fps
1894 fps

90 grns GoexFFF
1571 fps
1636 fps
1666 fps

80 grns SwissFFF
1747 fps
1803 fps

80 grns GoexFFF
1490 fps
1531 fps

70 grns SwissFFF
1649 fps
1715 fps

70 grns GoexFFF
1412 fps
1443 fps

60 grns SwissFFF
1566 fps
1593 fps

60 grns GoexFFF
1270 fps
1361 fps
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That,s a lot more extreme than I would have thought.My only experience is with Goex and am happy with it,s performance and cleans easy if you clean in a timely manner. What is the name of that other Goex you have used FG?I remember you stated it is a higher grade than regular Goex.
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The other powder made by Goex is Olde Eynsford. It has more power and is cleaner burning than regular Goex.
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Old 01-31-2019, 08:27 PM
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Yeah now I remember.
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