Elitist attitude
02-26-2008 | 06:35 PM
#31
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RE: Elitist attitude
If the fate of the entire World rests on one well placed arrow........I want that bow in my hands.
Matt, please understand that I am not upset. I would like to have an intellegent discussion. I feel you are more than intellegent enough have your views on crossbows softened, not turned but. I hope you are not upset as well.
02-26-2008 | 06:35 PM
#32
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RE: Elitist attitude
Are cane pole fisherman better than those who use the trusty zebco 33?.....I say yes! lmao
I read through this post and agree with everything said, except Big Duane's posts. He skirts questions and poisons the image of bowhunting just to give himself a pat on the back for using a different type bow. Big D, by your definition, a compound shooter who uses no sights and shoots fingers is a trad shooter, correct? Is that how you distinguish the two types of hunting, no sights and shooting fingers?
Matt/PA agreed 1000%. Crossbows arent bowhunting, just as gun hunting isn't. They are their own type of hunting. I don't see Rifle hunters griping about not being considered muzzleoader hunters.[:-]
I read through this post and agree with everything said, except Big Duane's posts. He skirts questions and poisons the image of bowhunting just to give himself a pat on the back for using a different type bow. Big D, by your definition, a compound shooter who uses no sights and shoots fingers is a trad shooter, correct? Is that how you distinguish the two types of hunting, no sights and shooting fingers?
Matt/PA agreed 1000%. Crossbows arent bowhunting, just as gun hunting isn't. They are their own type of hunting. I don't see Rifle hunters griping about not being considered muzzleoader hunters.[:-]
02-26-2008 | 06:41 PM
#33
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RE: Elitist attitude
TEmbry, I respectfully disagree about crossbows not being bowhunting. It is the same position many had towards compounds years ago. Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
I certainly hope many here can agee to disagree and still be on a friendly basis.
It is truly amazing it took this long for this kind of discussion to come about and it says alot of good things about members here.
I certainly hope many here can agee to disagree and still be on a friendly basis.
It is truly amazing it took this long for this kind of discussion to come about and it says alot of good things about members here.
02-26-2008 | 06:51 PM
#34
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RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Dnk
Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
TE,
thanks for agreeing with me.....i really am the best.
02-26-2008 | 06:51 PM
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RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Dnk
TEmbry, I respectfully disagree about crossbows not being bowhunting. It is the same position many had towards compounds years ago. Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
I certainly hope many here can agee to disagree.
TEmbry, I respectfully disagree about crossbows not being bowhunting. It is the same position many had towards compounds years ago. Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
I certainly hope many here can agee to disagree.
And I should have made it clear that I am in no way ANTI-crossbow. I think its great people hunt with them, and I would in a heartbeat if old age or injury got the best of me. IMO, people with injuries/age preventing one from using a regular bow SHOULD be allowed to use them during archery season.
For everyone else, they are separate in my eyes, just as rifles, muzzleloaders, shotguns, and pistols are all separate. Not worse, just different. I'll give someonea congrats for a kill regardless of the weapon used, i respect them all the same. I also understand the level of skill required to use each weapon efficiently. Not all "bows" are equally easy to become proficient with, same goes for rifles. Anyone tried hitting a cantelope at 400 yards with a small bore centerfire compared to plinking with a .22 at 20 yards? More skill is involved in the actual weapons, not the hunting.
02-26-2008 | 06:55 PM
#36
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RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Alpha Capo
isnt that why many states outside of the disability thing are saying that people over the age of xx can huntwith a crossbow. wich is all the same being old is kindof like being disabled....
TE,
thanks for agreeing with me.....i really am the best.
ORIGINAL: Dnk
Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
TE,
thanks for agreeing with me.....i really am the best.
02-26-2008 | 07:02 PM
#37
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RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
definitely, people werent made to look at all things the same, that would be boring.
And I should have made it clear that I am in no way ANTI-crossbow. I think its great people hunt with them, and I would in a heartbeat if old age or injury got the best of me. IMO, people with injuries/age preventing one from using a regular bow SHOULD be allowed to use them during archery season.
For everyone else, they are separate in my eyes, just as rifles, muzzleloaders, shotguns, and pistols are all separate. Not worse, just different. I'll give someonea congrats for a kill regardless of the weapon used, i respect them all the same. I also understand the level of skill required to use each weapon efficiently. Not all "bows" are equally easy to become proficient with, same goes for rifles. Anyone tried hitting a cantelope at 400 yards with a small bore centerfire compared to plinking with a .22 at 20 yards? More skill is involved in the actual weapons, not the hunting.
ORIGINAL: Dnk
TEmbry, I respectfully disagree about crossbows not being bowhunting. It is the same position many had towards compounds years ago. Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
I certainly hope many here can agee to disagree.
TEmbry, I respectfully disagree about crossbows not being bowhunting. It is the same position many had towards compounds years ago. Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
I certainly hope many here can agee to disagree.
And I should have made it clear that I am in no way ANTI-crossbow. I think its great people hunt with them, and I would in a heartbeat if old age or injury got the best of me. IMO, people with injuries/age preventing one from using a regular bow SHOULD be allowed to use them during archery season.
For everyone else, they are separate in my eyes, just as rifles, muzzleloaders, shotguns, and pistols are all separate. Not worse, just different. I'll give someonea congrats for a kill regardless of the weapon used, i respect them all the same. I also understand the level of skill required to use each weapon efficiently. Not all "bows" are equally easy to become proficient with, same goes for rifles. Anyone tried hitting a cantelope at 400 yards with a small bore centerfire compared to plinking with a .22 at 20 yards? More skill is involved in the actual weapons, not the hunting.
02-26-2008 | 07:06 PM
#38
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RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Dnk
I don't think the older crowd should be considered disabled but when all of us here can no longer pull back a vert bow and we only use a crossbow will we hunt during bow season? If so will we all call it bow hunting? I think it's kind of interesting.
ORIGINAL: Alpha Capo
isnt that why many states outside of the disability thing are saying that people over the age of xx can huntwith a crossbow. wich is all the same being old is kindof like being disabled....
TE,
thanks for agreeing with me.....i really am the best.
ORIGINAL: Dnk
Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
TE,
thanks for agreeing with me.....i really am the best.
02-26-2008 | 07:09 PM
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RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Dnk
Very well said! But will those who do turn to the crossbow call it bowhunting. I have used all maner of bows, rifles, shotguns and handguns for hunting. But the only thing I ever considered the hunting to be is hunting. No separation, no better than you attitude, just hunting. They all have their limits and pain in the but to be delt with. The biggest thing in common was that it was all good clean fun!
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
definitely, people werent made to look at all things the same, that would be boring.
And I should have made it clear that I am in no way ANTI-crossbow. I think its great people hunt with them, and I would in a heartbeat if old age or injury got the best of me. IMO, people with injuries/age preventing one from using a regular bow SHOULD be allowed to use them during archery season.
For everyone else, they are separate in my eyes, just as rifles, muzzleloaders, shotguns, and pistols are all separate. Not worse, just different. I'll give someonea congrats for a kill regardless of the weapon used, i respect them all the same. I also understand the level of skill required to use each weapon efficiently. Not all "bows" are equally easy to become proficient with, same goes for rifles. Anyone tried hitting a cantelope at 400 yards with a small bore centerfire compared to plinking with a .22 at 20 yards? More skill is involved in the actual weapons, not the hunting.
ORIGINAL: Dnk
TEmbry, I respectfully disagree about crossbows not being bowhunting. It is the same position many had towards compounds years ago. Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
I certainly hope many here can agee to disagree.
TEmbry, I respectfully disagree about crossbows not being bowhunting. It is the same position many had towards compounds years ago. Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
I certainly hope many here can agee to disagree.
And I should have made it clear that I am in no way ANTI-crossbow. I think its great people hunt with them, and I would in a heartbeat if old age or injury got the best of me. IMO, people with injuries/age preventing one from using a regular bow SHOULD be allowed to use them during archery season.
For everyone else, they are separate in my eyes, just as rifles, muzzleloaders, shotguns, and pistols are all separate. Not worse, just different. I'll give someonea congrats for a kill regardless of the weapon used, i respect them all the same. I also understand the level of skill required to use each weapon efficiently. Not all "bows" are equally easy to become proficient with, same goes for rifles. Anyone tried hitting a cantelope at 400 yards with a small bore centerfire compared to plinking with a .22 at 20 yards? More skill is involved in the actual weapons, not the hunting.
I'll leave it at that and quit littering the Trad boards.[8D] Heck, I don't even have aTradbow, yet.
02-26-2008 | 07:15 PM
#40
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RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
I can say this when I'm old and gray and not able to pull my recurve back anymore, a ML will be the next thing in line, never a crossbow for me!!!
ORIGINAL: Dnk
I don't think the older crowd should be considered disabled but when all of us here can no longer pull back a vert bow and we only use a crossbow will we hunt during bow season? If so will we all call it bow hunting? I think it's kind of interesting.
ORIGINAL: Alpha Capo
isnt that why many states outside of the disability thing are saying that people over the age of xx can huntwith a crossbow. wich is all the same being old is kindof like being disabled....
TE,
thanks for agreeing with me.....i really am the best.
ORIGINAL: Dnk
Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
Many who do not use a crossobw YET will change their tune when they are too old to pull back a compound, recurve etc and bow season comes around!
TE,
thanks for agreeing with me.....i really am the best.