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RE: Elitist attitude
notice too ........ Hunting.net splits Bowhunting from Traditional Archery and even a seperate crossbows forum.
even Hunting.net splits us |
RE: Elitist attitude
ORIGINAL: Wyvern Crossbow If all you are trying to achieve is a patch of woods all to yourself to hunt in(which is EXACTLY what special seasons are for)then you either need to buy/lease yourself some private property or drive a few hours so you are not in a populated area. |
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ORIGINAL: Big Duane notice too ........ Hunting.net splits Bowhunting from Traditional Archery and even a seperate crossbows forum. even Hunting.net splits us |
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brucelanthier splitting species forums is different than splitting equipment forums, isn't it ? I mean, we're all big tent guys here right ? All for one and one for all ? Well ...... except the truth is we're NOT all for one and one for all, we've already drawn lines that few want to discuss, and those lines are shaky at best based on what they're based on.
This is exactly what all of these elitist threads boil down too. Someone is upset that someone else that does not hunt just like them is polluting their hunting season. And the answer is just as Wyvern Crossbow put it: Instead of depriving other hunters opportunities on public land just buy your own land and set your own rules. Why the need to deprive other hunters on public land? would you go for a one season for everyone ? no splitting of weapons, we all get 3 or 4 weeks and shoot what you want to in it ? or maybe choose your weapon tags ? you hunt with archery means you don't get rifle tags, you hunt with rifle and you don't get to hunt with bows, that kind of deal ? isnt the seasons split for a reason ? what ARE those reasons ? Impacts on game resources is a big resaon they're split, maximizing hunting opportunities without putting too much pressure on the resources. Right ? |
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"would you go for a one season for everyone ? no splitting of weapons, we all get 3 or 4 weeks and shoot what you want to in it ? or maybe choose your weapon tags ? you hunt with archery means you don't get rifle tags, you hunt with rifle and you don't get to hunt with bows, that kind of deal ? "
Actually, Yes...that would make things a whole lot easier. "Archery season": I go out one day with my long bow, another with my modern crossbow, another with a compound, and another with my medieval bow. I find it annoying that I have to keep one eye on my calender and HOPE for good hunting weather during that week. In our area with the deer population the "archery or gun" option would not be there, and I do like to seperate "archery" from gun as gun hunters tend to be more intrusive than bow hunters, but the "special seasons" is idiotic. "isnt the seasons split for a reason ? what ARE those reasons ? Impacts on game resources is a big resaon they're split, maximizing hunting opportunities without putting too much pressure on the resources. Right ?" If you are saying the archery and gun are split, yes, that is the reason. Spliting trad from compound or crossbow, or muzzeloader from gun is nothing more thanlegislators bending to special interst group pressure. I am sure in some states this may not work, but most everywhere would do just fine wiht an archery season, and a gun season. Back to the "twang/thwap" or "Boom" theory. So...short of the individual opinion that crossbows or compounds are "not archery" or "not hunting", what REAL impact has allowing these forms of archery done to ruin your hunting experiance or decimate deer herds??? The trad guys all cried that the deer herds would be decimated by the introduction of compounds....this did not happen. Now all the compound users are crying that the deer herds would be decimated by the introduction of crossbows....this has not happend...and WILL not happen either. Now this does not mean that at some point there will not be a bow that can ethicaly kill at 150yrds, but I seriously doubt that many "archers" would use it. I sell very few of the full size Strykers because they are "too much" in the opinions of my customers. Taking long shots is not only unethical, but not much of a challenge and that is the main reason we got into this sport. This "MY SEASON" attitude is very entertaining....Kinda like watching Supernanny and seeing the kids thow a tantrum.... Wyvern |
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Sorry my lap top crashed had to borrow someone elses[:@][:@]and this on is OLD and slow....
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ORIGINAL: Big Duane would you go for a one season for everyone ? no splitting of weapons, we all get 3 or 4 weeks and shoot what you want to in it ? or maybe choose your weapon tags ? you hunt with archery means you don't get rifle tags, you hunt with rifle and you don't get to hunt with bows, that kind of deal ? isnt the seasons split for a reason ? what ARE those reasons ? Impacts on game resources is a big resaon they're split, maximizing hunting opportunities without putting too much pressure on the resources. Right ? You seem to want to have exclusionary solutions while I would be looking for more inclusive solutions. But, like I said, all of these elitist threads boil down to that "Someone is upset that someone else that does not hunt just like them is polluting their hunting season." If you don't want other hunters bothering you in your season buy your own land and hunt it like you want. Don't try and deprive other hunters of public hunting. |
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ORIGINAL: Wyvern Crossbow So...short of the individual opinion that crossbows or compounds are "not archery" or "not hunting", what REAL impact has allowing these forms of archery done to ruin your hunting experiance or decimate deer herds??? The trad guys all cried that the deer herds would be decimated by the introduction of compounds....this did not happen. Now all the compound users are crying that the deer herds would be decimated by the introduction of crossbows....this has not happend...and WILL not happen either. Now this does not mean that at some point there will not be a bow that can ethicaly kill at 150yrds, but I seriously doubt that many "archers" would use it. I sell very few of the full size Strykers because they are "too much" in the opinions of my customers. Taking long shots is not only unethical, but not much of a challenge and that is the main reason we got into this sport. This "MY SEASON" attitude is very entertaining....Kinda like watching Supernanny and seeing the kids thow a tantrum.... Wyvern Is that not what this diatribe is about. BD quit being P.C. and just come out and say you are better than everyone else that doesnt use trad bows. I can remember when you first started trad gear. Where was your cockiness before you made the life changeing switch. Oh yea, it was the gun hunters that were not worthy.:eek: |
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Divide and defeat. People like you do the divideing so the antis can defeat us. Keep up the good work B.D.. We will ruin hunting from within.
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BD there is a point about compound,it dosnt fall under definition of bow but it does fall under the def of Archer witch is one who shoots with bow and arrow, that isif you see compound bow/crossbow compound as haveing limbs that bend and use a string to propel a arrow.....
Like I said earlier ifthe Elitewant to hunt with only a longbow or recuve great but ifthe elitedont want to reconize(spl)a bow as being a weapon that has LIMBS and STRING use to propel a arrow then they should buy thier own chunk of land and live in thier own Eliteworld and leave the Archers alone... Once again this is my opinion... |
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