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Old 11-13-2007 | 09:36 PM
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I hunt exclusively with a compound but am working up the confidence with my traditional tackle and hopefully will be ready to go next season. I passed up the only shot i had on a P&Y 9 pt(would be my3rd)this past weekend on my farm in Ohio. He was at thirty yards but that isn't why i passed him up, it was the hard quartering tooangle. Could i have busted through? Possibly. But yet i hunt with a compound bow so that makes me an unethical hunter. Have i made bad shots? Yes i think everyone has or will in their life.Why must Trad shooters look atcompound shooters as if they accomplish less when they mske a successful harvest? I don't get the segregation thing![&:]
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Old 11-13-2007 | 11:13 PM
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Why must Trad shooters look at compound shooters as if they accomplish less when they mske a successful harvest?
Where'd you come up with that? I reread the entire thread and didn't see a single place where anyone said anything remotely resembling that statement. But then.... When you get that deer with your recurve next year, you won't have to ask that question again.

But yet i hunt with a compound bow so that makes me an unethical hunter.
If YOU say so. None of us did. The original comment was:
I suredon't like this new wave of hunting ethics people are using these days, more so on the compound side of it then the traditional side of it!
Emphasis mine, of course. More so just means a higher percentage of one than the other. It is not an all inclusive term.
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Old 11-14-2007 | 02:19 AM
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But yet i hunt with a compound bow so that makes me an unethical hunter. Have i made bad shots? Yes i think everyone has or will in their life.Why must Trad shooters look atcompound shooters as if they accomplish less when they mske a successful harvest? I don't get the segregation thing![&:]
Where did you come up with that? All i said was I suredon't like this new wave of hunting ethics people are using these days, more so on the compound side of it then the traditional side of it! Open your ears and listen to some of these stories on here from some of the guys shooting compounds, its kinda scary on the way some of them think and the shots they take! By no means everyone is like that but i think its getting worse and worse every year! You seem to have your stuff together, you proved that on passing on that 9pt, good decision on your part! I don't care what anyone shoots for a bow, justtake and practicegood quality high percentage shots and pass it on to the next young bow hunter who is starting out and so on! Good luck next year doing the traditional thing!
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Old 11-14-2007 | 06:18 AM
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compound shooters think of trad shooters as unethical because they aren't nearly as accurate, and wound more animals

trad shooters think compounders have removed so much of the archery from their hunting that its not even bowhunting anymore with the triggers, sights, 70 yard shots and mechanical broadheads

theres your blanket - and many, MANY hunters sleep under them both


If you shoot trad ? Get off your high horse, know that shooting a compound and killing deer IS much easier than your choice in bows, but it still isn't easy. As long as the technology wave doesn't shorten your season, your bag limits, or otherwise affects your bowhunting in any way, shape or form ? Don't worry about it, worry about YOUR hunting.

If you shoot a compound ? Get off your high horse, know that you're choosing a much easier weapon to shoot, and that while trad archers MIGHT wound more game ? Plenty enough are shot and lost with compounds. If YOUR seasons/bag limits etc isn't affected by those shooting real bows ? Don't worry about their hunting, worry about YOUR hunting.


I shot a compound for 13 years, then switched to trad for 3-4 years, and am shooting a compound again this year. I've wounded deer and killed deer with both. I can tell you 100% trad is much harder, and I can tell you 100% compounds are not easy.

Don't be frustrated, unless YOUR season is being impacted by someone elses choices in weapons.
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Old 11-14-2007 | 10:35 AM
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Wow, stealthy. Very good.
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Old 11-14-2007 | 12:24 PM
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Why must Trad shooters look at compound shooters as if they accomplish less when they mske a successful harvest? [/blockquote]


Where'd you come up with that? I reread the entire thread and didn't see a single place where anyone said anything remotely resembling that statement. But then.... When you get that deer with your recurve next year, you won't have to ask that question again.

I never said it was in this thread i was simply asking a question, that what that squiggle and dot mean at the end of a sentence.The reason i ask is that i was sharing the story of my first P&Ywith some freinds at my friends archery shop and some guy busted in and asked if i had shot it with Trad gear i replied "no" and he proceeded to tell me that it doesn't count.

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I suredon't like this new wave of hunting ethics people are using these days, more so on the compound side of it then the traditional side of it!

I have met some bad compound hunters and some bad Trad hunters. I just don't understand why we must segregate ourselves any more than we already are?[&:]


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Old 11-14-2007 | 12:50 PM
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I have met some bad compound hunters and some bad Trad hunters. I just don't understand why we must segregate ourselves any more than we already are?[&:]

I think what they are trying to say is its an observation. I observe the same thing myself. I dont' think its a big secret. If I was you, I would get too upset over an observation.
 
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Old 11-14-2007 | 01:49 PM
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Why must Trad shooters look at compound shooters as if they accomplish less when they mske a successful harvest?
popeandyoungchaser the above is very accurate, like it or not

I just don't understand why we must segregate ourselves any more than we already are?[&:]
may I ?

most states have very good seasons and bag limits for archery hunting. modern compounds continue their leaps in technology. At some point I think , 100 yard shots, 450 fps, 99% letoffs and extreme accuracy will be commonplace, not unlike muzzleloaders now being 1 shot scoped rifles with 300 yard accuracy.

you have to soul search, and find out WHAT archery is, WHAT bowhunting is. Is it 300 fps and 70 yard 2" groups ? is it carving your bow from an osage stave and shooting cane shafts and trade points ?

the belief should be that you choose your bow, and that bow should be allowed in archery season, as long as it doesn't negatively impact archery seasons, bag limts etc.

but its not a popular belief, and compound shooters hate that whole concept more than trad shooters. Why ? because trad shooters are taking the tough road, compounders the easy road, and the "easy road" rarely likes the harder one.

choices.
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Old 11-15-2007 | 11:23 AM
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Its like ArthurP on here or LBR or Burnie, bob, etc. I guarantee all these guys abilities exceeds mine by a good bit. I am only good up to 18 yards. I am only confident up to 18 yards. But I am sure thier limit or personal ethics are totally different.
Well, I let a 160 class buck walk broadside at 28-30 yards this year, turned quartered away at 35, then scraped the dirt broadside at 40. Biggest buck I have ever seen. Also stalked up to a buttonbuck at 5 yards (thought he was a doe until I got close), didn't shoot.
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Old 11-17-2007 | 10:29 AM
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i was sharing the story of my first P&Ywith some freinds at my friends archery shop and some guy busted in and asked if i had shot it with Trad gear i replied "no" and he proceeded to tell me that it doesn't count.
No matter what hunting group you're a part of,there's always going to be a certain percentage of holier than thou butt holes. Even among thetraditional ranks, there are some that feel unless you're doing it a certain way, mainly their way, you're notdoing it right. Fortunately, they don'ttypically represent the majority but as loud as they like to voice their opinions,you would think they do. As BC mentioned earlier, many negative comments come from an individuals insecurity or jealousy.For some,it's aninherent flaw in their personality tohave totear others down to make themselves feel and/or look good. I wouldn't take those individuals too seriously.
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