Well, I finally got to see hear and shoot what so many of you guys have been talking about. One of the guys at our club was shooting an Allegiance that he just picked up. That seemed like a very nice bow. It did seem to have a bit of vibration at the shot, but the guy still had his vibrablocks down by the limb pockets. Then I went over to the shop where Frank (PABowhntr) works to see the new Bowtechs that they now carry. Frank had his own Old Glory there. Even though it is at least 1.5" too long a draw for me, I was very impressed at the feel of the bow. Best shot feel and least recoil I can ever remember shooting. This bow had no vibration at all, so I'm not sure what I was hearing with the other guy's Allegiance. Maybe it was his rest or sight. I tried to look closely at the cams at brace and full draw. There was no cam lean at all, AFAICT. There did seem to be a very minor amount on the short Defender, but not on the OG or Allegiance. Very nice bows, I can see where they will sell a ton of them this year.

Frank: Thanks for letting me shoot the Old Glory and P 40 Freedom. Both are great bows, I can see why you like them so much.

I liked my p40 freedom so much for spot targets that I went and bought another for hunting. One can never have too many bows. Maybe next year, when Mom ain't lookin, I'll add an old glory to the collection. What the heck should I do with my patriot now?

I still don't get the Vibrablocks at the limb pocket thing........I know that was the standard issue a few years ago when we started to slide them down rather than cut them off when we added Limbsavers because the first gen. Vibrablocks pretty much stank.
Well the new ones work pretty well, and for some reason somebody decided that they BELONG down there, and IMO they don't. But that's just me........or keep em' down there and throw on a set of Limbsaver Ultras and you might as well be shooting a 320fps+ pillow.

I finally got my own Allegiance and boy is this thing impressive. Nice to hear you approve Jeff.
I think "sell a ton of these" is a major understatement. I can't even begin to imagine the refinements that are to come from the first model year of these "E" cam bows. [:-]

Matt,

I always thought that the vibrablocks were positioned down by the limb pockets when packaged for shipping. Like you, I have always found that they worked better up by the limb forks.

Jeff,

I am glad that you stopped by. It is always a pleasure to get the chance to talk with you in person. That Darton was very impressive. I still cannot believe the shot feel of that bow. You have a great setup on it.

BJ,

Yes, that Pro40 is definitely a shooter. I think it has to be my new number one "fun and accurate" bow to shoot. I have not had a chance to shoot the Independence yet but would wonder how it compares to the Pro 40......as its closest comparative model in the current lineup.