I bought my Allegiance a month ago, and have to say I'm very impressed. I came from a matthews FX. After getting used to the cams on the allegiance, I'll never go back. It does take some getting used to. After about 20 shots, I fell in love. I have a 28 inch draw and the bow is set at 68lbs and speeds through chronograph is 304. Much faster than my FX and very quiet. So quiet, I had to get used to people asking how I got my bow to be so quiet at this speed. I have limbsavers on my limbs as well as the string. I feel the limbsavers on the string quieted the bow twang more than the bowtech rubber did. I have yet to move the let off bolt from 80 to 65%, but when I do I'll post back if it changed the way it currently feels.

If your looking for speed, bowtech is the way to go.

The Allegiance is different to shoot at first, but very smooth. It just takes 20 shots or so to get the "feeling" down.

This is my first time visiting the site, and so far I've seen a lot of helpful information.

Bowtech- See you when you get there.

Maybe, but I was just pointing out the fact that this bow's speed is closer to the Extreme or Pat Dually rather than the Pat VFT which is what some are seeing.

Is anybody putting limbsavers on the bow in addition to the hush kit? Did if affect noise levels at all? How about speed?

I put the limbsaver ultras on mine. Did it help? Perhaps a little. It just makes me feel better having them there knowning they are at least absorbing some of the shock and vibration.

I also put Limb Savers on my Allegiance They won't affect the speed and they did make a difference in noise. I was more concerned with my bow living as long a life as possible that noise however. My sight and arrow rest will thank me in the future also.
I have installed Limb Savers on everything I've owned since they first came out and they do work quite well..

Am I the only one who could feel the shot in the grip of an Allegiance??

There was a noticable buzz in my hand on every shot I took. Not like a HUGE buzz.........but enough that I noticed it right away. I grabbed my Patriot after 2 shots just to make sure........and it had nothing.

Just wondering if I am the only one...........or if the limbsavers or a stabilizer have eliminated this for some of you.

I can't speak for the Allegiance but I do know the Old Glory had a little buzz in the grip but it was so minor there is no doubt that it would go away with either limb savers or a stabilizer. I have yet to shoot the Allegiance but I really enjoyed the draw cycle on the Old Glory. I can draw 80 lbs easy no matter what the draw cyle is like on the bow and 70 lbs much easier than that but I still thought the draw cycle was nicer than my 04 SC Patriot which has a nice draw cycle itself IMO. I went to the shop with the expectations of shooting down the new bow and the new cams primarily because I was frustrated they didn't come out with a bow with the specs I was looking for. However, I was very pleasantly suprised by the bow. I am looking forward to seeing how the Allegiance compares to the Old glory. Unfortunately, I won't have an oppurtunity to shoot the Switchback to compare the 2 since there is only one shop in my area and I wouldn't go there if they were giving them away for free. Maybe I can stop in somewhere and shoot one on one of my business trips, vacations, or scouting trips this spring.

Atlas, I felt a small buzz in my hand on the Allegiance when testing shooting at the shop. But it had nothing but a rest, not even a sight so I am confident that with a stabilizer and full setup it will be dead as can be. I have heard that the Switchback is pretty much dead even when it is bare. I drew several but the shop I was at didn't have an indoor range to allow me to shoot it[:@]

My brother shoots the Alegiance and my neighbor shoots the switch back. I have shot both of them and are both very nice, but the bow i fell for ( dont tell my wife ) is the PSE Vengance NRG Hybrid. The archery shop i deal with just got one in last week and it is MINE. This thing is smoother than snot and rips arrows. Ive always been a PSE FAN. Till now ive still been using a PSE 1000C AND LOVE IT. This is a pic of the Vengance.

I finally got to play with one yesterday, that is the good news. The bad news is that I didn't get to chrono it. The one I shot was a 60 pounder. I also shot a 70 pound Defender and a 70 pound Vtec.

I have shot a 70# Switchback, so I do have that to compare it to. In addition I shot the Vtec side by side with the Allegiance.

Before I verbalize my observations I should mention that I own and have owned many different manufacturers bows. I guess what I am trying to say is that I am not BLINDLY brand loyal. If I feel a Mathews is reliable, durable, fits and shoots better for me than what I am currently shooting that is what I will buy, if it is a Hoyt, Bowtech or brand X, so be it. My goal is to fit myself with the tool that best suits my needs and preferences, not win converts to the brand I shoot.

This is how things felt IN MY HANDS and what MY EARS HEARD.

As far as felt vibration goes, with the individual bows I shot, I would have to say that the Switchback was the quietest and the most shockfree hands down. I do have some concerns right or wrong, with the performance of the string silencers over time and I have yet to find any reliable conformation on the bearing/bushing question in the cam.

Perhaps the Allegiance was a tad quieter than the Vtech, hard to say. Even the person standing next to me (an experienced archer) couldn't definitively say one way or another. I too felt a slight vibration when shooting the Allegiance, but certainly no more than I felt with the Hoyt. When I put on a stabilizer it was pleasant to shoot.

The draw on the Allegiance is what it is. 60 pounds felt like 60, 70 pounds felt like seventy. I don't feel the "magic" that I have heard some describe, but then that is just me. I do like the solid wall. I also think the draw on a bow is subjective. When your "muscle memory" is programed to a certain type of draw, anything else can feel so different it is almost foreign. I have no qualms about the draw on the Allegiance, but again that is just me. I tip my hat to Bowtech on their draw lengths. I was concerned with a 29" being too long. I didn't measure it but it seemed right on, anyway for my frame.

In the speed department, though I didn't chrono any of these bows, I don't have a problem believing the Allegiance to be the clear winner.

If I had one gripe about the BowTech product it would be their hush kit. To me, this is a beautiful bow! I love the lines, I love the camo, it is easy on the eye (again personal preference). The hush kit system to me seems cheap. The shop just got this bow in so it has not been shot very much. On about my fifth shot or so the jacks on the string started breaking up and flying around the lane I was shooting in. The little "blocks" on the limbs above and below the riser seemed flimsy and without substance. I really question how effective they are.

Over all I give the Allegiance high marks. I really think I am going to buy one but will probably wait until the weather breaks. If I brought one any earlier I would probably shooting holes in the walls of my house.

They called me last night to let me know they had a 70 pounder in, so I am going to go play with it either this afternoon or tomorrow.