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TFox, wow, talk about a high elbow! I've been fooling around with a Tru Ball Pro Diamond T-handle release lately and experimenting a little with anchor points and draw lengths. I can actually shoot an honest 29" draw, but I just feel much more comfortable at 28". I really like the T-handle release, but its giving me fits. I shoot consistantly left and really can't group tune with it because I continue to the left the farther out I go no matter how much to the right I move the rest. I'll get it though, no matter how much I want to sell the damn release.
#23
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From: Baltimore Maryland USA
If you ever get into my area, stop by and I'll be glad to critique your form. I always give several options on form and explain what each option offers for the application. You've been given some good advice here. How it applies to your shooting needs/success is a personal choice.
One bit of advice that I will give is to make changes one at a time and evaluate the positives and negatives of each change before you try another change.
Good luck.
One bit of advice that I will give is to make changes one at a time and evaluate the positives and negatives of each change before you try another change.
Good luck.
#24
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Illinois
TFOX:
The lad is obviously using a T-type release with a reversed draw hand. When I use a T-release I do the same. My hand position to my anchor point is (then) similar to using my fingers on my recurves, requiring that I elevate my elbow to place and keep my draw hand against my face and in my anchor point.
With me, there is a fine line between having my elbow too high or too low when using a T or fingers. However, when I do use a T-release and back-hand, my elbow is higher than when I shoot with fingers.
With my wrist release, I have to keep my elbow (almost) directly in line with my shaft. If don't, I feel obvious tension in my right shoulder and I don't seem to be able to flex my back muscles as easy. Again, that is my way.
The lad is obviously using a T-type release with a reversed draw hand. When I use a T-release I do the same. My hand position to my anchor point is (then) similar to using my fingers on my recurves, requiring that I elevate my elbow to place and keep my draw hand against my face and in my anchor point.
With me, there is a fine line between having my elbow too high or too low when using a T or fingers. However, when I do use a T-release and back-hand, my elbow is higher than when I shoot with fingers.
With my wrist release, I have to keep my elbow (almost) directly in line with my shaft. If don't, I feel obvious tension in my right shoulder and I don't seem to be able to flex my back muscles as easy. Again, that is my way.
#25
It looks to me like you can straighten the bow arm out without changing your draw length.
That Pro diamond may not be the best t handle release to accomplish what you are trying to do.It requires trigger movement to go off.Very hard to get a consistant release with it.I had one and hunted with it quite succesfully and I also have a Chappy boss that has a set trigger,I was going to sell it but I let my daughter shoot it today and it doesn't look like I am getting it back.[
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I actually shoot a Short and Sweet II by Tru Ball(wrist release) and I use a high elbow and backtension to shoot it.I am shooting better with it than any other release ever before.I do use backtension release to practice and keep bt working properly but I just group better with the Short and Sweet.
That Pro diamond may not be the best t handle release to accomplish what you are trying to do.It requires trigger movement to go off.Very hard to get a consistant release with it.I had one and hunted with it quite succesfully and I also have a Chappy boss that has a set trigger,I was going to sell it but I let my daughter shoot it today and it doesn't look like I am getting it back.[
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I actually shoot a Short and Sweet II by Tru Ball(wrist release) and I use a high elbow and backtension to shoot it.I am shooting better with it than any other release ever before.I do use backtension release to practice and keep bt working properly but I just group better with the Short and Sweet.
#26
c-903,you are correct,he is using a bt release and I did state earlier that you can't shoot with your elbow as high with a wrist release but you can still shoot a high elbow.
Yes this does become a personal thing,you can even look at many pros and their form will vary from one to the next but it just seems that "the best" have a lot in common.
I will second what Len said.Try to do one thing at a time and make evaluations.Maybe even make a log of what seems to work and what doesn't.After a while you may want to try things together and still keep a log.
I will add this,give changes an honest effort.It may take a day or two to decide that something doesn't work.I actually like to try to shoot a 3-d course after a change to see how I shoot under various shot conditions.Sometimes I can see potential with a change and other times I know to scrap it immediately.I recently made a bow hand position change and was shooting GREAT in the yard but when I hit the range I was throwing shots high and low.Scrapped that and went back to my original position and am shooting great.
Good luck.
Yes this does become a personal thing,you can even look at many pros and their form will vary from one to the next but it just seems that "the best" have a lot in common.
I will second what Len said.Try to do one thing at a time and make evaluations.Maybe even make a log of what seems to work and what doesn't.After a while you may want to try things together and still keep a log.
I will add this,give changes an honest effort.It may take a day or two to decide that something doesn't work.I actually like to try to shoot a 3-d course after a change to see how I shoot under various shot conditions.Sometimes I can see potential with a change and other times I know to scrap it immediately.I recently made a bow hand position change and was shooting GREAT in the yard but when I hit the range I was throwing shots high and low.Scrapped that and went back to my original position and am shooting great.
Good luck.
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