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Old 03-28-2004 | 08:21 PM
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got some arrows 23 yrs ago easton 2216 what spine
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Old 03-28-2004 | 11:06 PM
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There is no definitive answer to your question as asked.

The term spine is actually a misnomer, almost a cliché, when determining the correct size (diameter and wall thickness) of shaft for your setup and your draw-length. It is easier and universally understood to say "correct spine" rather than to say "XXXX size shaft has the correct degree of flex for your setup."

There are several factors used to determine what size (diameter and wall thickness) of shaft you need. Rather than list them all, go to this link (Easton Spine Chart) and dial in your specs. The chart will give you a range of shaft sizes considered best (preferred) to acceptable for your setup.

http://www.edersbow.com/catalog/easton_chart.htm

HOWEVER, I strongly advise that you not use those aluminum shafts that are 23-years old. Aluminum shafts, as any other shaft made of other materials, will degrade over time. Your shafts could fracture (blow up) on release and could seriously or gravely injure you and/or anyone nearby, and could destroy your bow.
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Old 03-29-2004 | 04:42 AM
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Ditto on getting some new shafts. I do not own any 23 year old arrows but would be willing to wager that they may be unsafe.

Arthur?

(Sorry, could not resist the age crack....)

As c903 was making mention to above any shafts spine will be largely determined by the length of the shaft as well as the draw weight, point weight and draw length that they are being shot at. A 29 inch 2216 shot out of a 60 lb bow with a 100 grain point while using a 29 inch draw length will not have the same spine characteristics as a 27 inch 2216 shot out of a 50 lb bow with a 125 grain point while using a 27 inch draw length.
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Old 03-29-2004 | 07:42 AM
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A couple of years ago, I went to shoot at my former club and found a 2216 in the bucket that I'd lost in 1985 or before. I know that's when it was lost because it had my name and old address on it, to comply with Texas hunting regs, and the reg that mandated all arrows to be identified with the owner's name and addy was removed the following year. It had been in the elements at least 17 years. Cleaned it up, replaced the insert, refletched and put a new nock on it. That arrow shot just as well as my new 2216's.

If an arrow can take that and still be perfectly sound, I don't see how old aluminums that have been in storage for about the same amount of time could be unsafe in any way.

You just have to make sure the arrows match up well with the bow you intend to shoot them with.
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Old 03-29-2004 | 07:52 AM
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Arthur,

I jokingly referred to you because I know of your affinity for aluminums and also because you are a bit older than most that frequent these forums. I, honestly, was not expecting to see a trully representative response. My hat goes off to you.

I have to tell you though, I am going to post something about my recent experiences with these new Easton Axis arrows. In my opinion, you really should pick up a dozen of these to try. They may just be the ICS carbon which has an answer for all those problems you mentioned with them. The only one I cannot comment on is the issue of degredation over time. I have only had them a week!
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Old 03-29-2004 | 08:40 AM
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I've been very curious about the Axis arrows. I was really impressed by JeffB's experience with them. (Where's Jeff been lately, anyway?) The only worry I've got about them would be whether or not they're long enough for me to shoot. Seems raw shafts are getting shorter and shorter by the year. Not good for someone who needs 32" arrows for his compound and longbow, and 33" arrows for the recurve.
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Old 03-29-2004 | 08:52 AM
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The only worry I've got about them would be whether or not they're long enough for me to shoot. Seems raw shafts are getting shorter and shorter by the year. Not good for someone who needs 32" arrows for his compound and longbow, and 33" arrows for the recurve.
Art.

The Axis arrows I got where 32" before I cut them down.
Of the dozen raw shafts I had 3 that had a slight wobble on 1 end but the shop let me spin and pick 3 more arrows from another dozen.

Where's Jeff been lately, anyway?
I do believe that Jeff has been rather busy with work lately but I am sure he will be back on board when he has some spare time
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Old 03-29-2004 | 10:39 AM
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Ausie beat me to it Arthur. I am very satisfied with these new shafts. I don't want to post much more until I get all of my info together but I blew off my first nock in quite some time the other day when I was shooting them...and that was out of a 30.5 inch bow with a 30.25 inch draw length!
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Old 03-29-2004 | 01:18 PM
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Art:

That you got away with shooting that old shaft that had been exposed to various elements for years, and who knows what other abuse, without incident, in no way proves that it was safe to do so.

"honda254" did not specifically indicate how he/she came by the arrows, how old were they before he/she acquired possession, whether they were previously used, any indication of wear and tear (dents, bent, dinged, etc,) how have they been stored for 23 years, any inspection for interior corrosion, etc.

Considering that his/her question indicates that he/she might be quite inexperienced in the archery sport, I considered that he/she might not understand all that could be said about inspecting the shafts for the presence of anything (signs) that might indicate that the shafts could be dangerous to shoot. Therefore, I opted for the safe side by getting directly to the point and strongly suggesting that he/she not shoot those shafts.

I still strongly warn that he/she not shoot those shafts. What could happen is not worth the chance or the saving of $60.00- $70.00.
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Old 03-29-2004 | 01:33 PM
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Point taken, C. You're right, of course. I was assuming he/she was the original purchaser and had been out of archery for a long time with the arrows stashed away in the closet. And we all know what that assuming stuff gets ya.
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