Taming recoil
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Nontypical Buck
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Jeff B. has a point, in that you certainly seem to be interested enough in the new bows to just bite the bullet and get one.
However, you have ample reason to stick with the Hornet as well. I admire your quest to make an older bow seem to have the shooting qualities of a brand new VFT style bow. I don't think it will happen, but I admire the quest.
The real question is... can you tame the "ferocious" recoil of the Hornet to your satisfaction?
I just got a 2000 Hoyt Havoc Redline, and the bow does have just a little "thump" to the shot compared to my Bowtech Pro 40 Wheely. BUT, it tuned easily, shoots great, and is very quiet. It would make a great hunting bow, just like your Hornet.
Take the Hornet to your shop and have the NV system put on the limb bolts and see what you think. It's the only way you are going to know if you will be satisfied.
Good luck, let us know how it turns out.

However, you have ample reason to stick with the Hornet as well. I admire your quest to make an older bow seem to have the shooting qualities of a brand new VFT style bow. I don't think it will happen, but I admire the quest.

The real question is... can you tame the "ferocious" recoil of the Hornet to your satisfaction?
I just got a 2000 Hoyt Havoc Redline, and the bow does have just a little "thump" to the shot compared to my Bowtech Pro 40 Wheely. BUT, it tuned easily, shoots great, and is very quiet. It would make a great hunting bow, just like your Hornet.
Take the Hornet to your shop and have the NV system put on the limb bolts and see what you think. It's the only way you are going to know if you will be satisfied.

Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
#32
The standard 12 inch Stealth is weighted 60/40 and comes with the mounting stud in the light end....this places the mass weight out front!
A custom weighted Stealth would have the weight to the rear of the stabilizer! Both of the chambers will be to the rear! This would get the weight closer to the center of the riser and counter act some of the recoil!
It almost sounds like you need a counter weight,such as a rear mount stabilizer on that bow.......does it have a mounting hole for this?
A custom weighted Stealth would have the weight to the rear of the stabilizer! Both of the chambers will be to the rear! This would get the weight closer to the center of the riser and counter act some of the recoil!
It almost sounds like you need a counter weight,such as a rear mount stabilizer on that bow.......does it have a mounting hole for this?
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It almost sounds like you need a counter weight,such as a rear mount stabilizer on that bow.......does it have a mounting hole for this?

Before I go the custom route, I'll try the NVs on the limbs. If they don't make a big difference, chances are the stabilizer won't either. I don't want to put a ton of money into my experiment to save money...

Thanks for the info and help.
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Backing my bow down to 64# (from 70#) has made a noticeable difference in felt recoil for the good. Speed should be around 280ish, trajectory is acceptable as is noise level, so all is good 
Hopefully I'll get my bow to a shop tomorrow to try the NVs where they're supposed to go.

Hopefully I'll get my bow to a shop tomorrow to try the NVs where they're supposed to go.
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Ok, bow is at the shop. Guy there had no idea how much they might charge for the install, said "that's a lot of work". I said, "Yeah, you have to press it, take the string and cable off, take out two bolts, install the NVs, re-install bolts, put string and cable back on to these specs". He looked bewildered. cringe
My only hope is that his partner, who will be in later, is the technical one of the bunch, as after looking at my bow, he proclaimed "Jim (I think) will know what to do. He's been through the PSE school" implying my bow was made by PSE. I said "Actually, it's a Diamond". He looked bewildered.
I'm supposed to pick it up tommorrow. I told him if it was gonna be more than $20 forget it. It's in God's hands now...
My only hope is that his partner, who will be in later, is the technical one of the bunch, as after looking at my bow, he proclaimed "Jim (I think) will know what to do. He's been through the PSE school" implying my bow was made by PSE. I said "Actually, it's a Diamond". He looked bewildered.
I'm supposed to pick it up tommorrow. I told him if it was gonna be more than $20 forget it. It's in God's hands now...
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As in, part monkey?
Or monkee's trained in a PSE semi?
Could be both
Yeah, Todd, I know. I need to quit being so fricking cheap and jsut buy a press... and a scale while I'm at it...
Or monkee's trained in a PSE semi?
Could be both

Yeah, Todd, I know. I need to quit being so fricking cheap and jsut buy a press... and a scale while I'm at it...
#39
PSE dealer school is a fairly in-depth "training course" on bow tuning, set-up, & maintenance. From what I understand it's a pretty good course. For many dealers, like Len or Pinwheel it's probably not something they'll learn anything from, but for many, many dealers it's probably sorely needed.
At the end of the course dealers get to build thier own bow to take home with them (in essence a custom model can be made if wanted).

At the end of the course dealers get to build thier own bow to take home with them (in essence a custom model can be made if wanted).
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Jeff,
Interesting comments about the PSE school. I have been meaning to go for some time but never seem to have the time. The local shop owner though had an opinion that was almost entirely opposite of what you stated. He felt that 90% of the course was focused more on running a business with only 10% on actual technical bow work. Now I, personally, have not gone but would be interested to hear what others that have can say on this subject.
RB,
(While trying to ignore the blindness comment in another thread...
) If I knew you were going to go through this much trouble I would have just suggested that you ship the bow to me and I would have installed them for you and shipped it back to you...
Interesting comments about the PSE school. I have been meaning to go for some time but never seem to have the time. The local shop owner though had an opinion that was almost entirely opposite of what you stated. He felt that 90% of the course was focused more on running a business with only 10% on actual technical bow work. Now I, personally, have not gone but would be interested to hear what others that have can say on this subject.
RB,
(While trying to ignore the blindness comment in another thread...
) If I knew you were going to go through this much trouble I would have just suggested that you ship the bow to me and I would have installed them for you and shipped it back to you...


