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Taming recoil

Old 03-29-2004 | 07:29 AM
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Swamp Dawg, I'm shooting a Diamond, not a Pearson. Recoils is just noticable, trying to see if I can reduce it to match the "sits in your hand" feeling some of the newer bows provide.

I have a Simms stabilizer enhancer, somewhere, got it for Christmas and now can't find it

When it turns up I'll add it to the mix as well. I had a thought over the weekend of how to experiment with weight added in different places, just have to find the thing I'm looking for to do it. It's around the house somewhere too. Probably with my enhancer...

Thanks for all the positive replies. I'm optimistic
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Old 03-29-2004 | 07:44 AM
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The NV system uses your pre-existing limb bolts as well as the washers that go along with them. You just won't be using those limb bolt "caps" that sit closest to the head of the limb bolt.

Personally, I think the combination of the NV system and an Enhancer 2000 would provide excellent vibration and recoil reduction on any bow.
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Old 03-29-2004 | 10:03 AM
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Anyone have any idea what a set of the NV system weighs?

Can't find data anywhere...
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Old 03-29-2004 | 10:28 AM
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RB,

I can check when I get home provided my scale will go that high...
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Old 04-05-2004 | 12:52 PM
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Thanks to Frank's generosity, first experiment with the NV dampeners is complete.

Frank had mentioned he found the dampeners did the best taming recoil when installed on the limb bolts. I decided to try simply adding them to my 8" stealth first, as I don't have time currently to do a breakdown.

As he recommended, I planned to install one NV against the riser using the bolt supplied, then secure my Stealth into it. I then planned to add the other NV to the end of the stealth, figuring their combined weight of 6.6 oz had as good a chance as any to reduce recoil, since my Hornet weighs 3.2#s and most "recoil-less" bows seem to weigh in at 4#+. This would bring my "spec" weight up to 3.6#s.

First problem- Due to the riser configuration, the NV would not fit against the riser, too much reflex. So, I installed the stealth first, then put both NVs on the end of the stealth.

First impression, the bow held on target MUCH steadier. I've been slowly realizing I prefer a heavier bow, and this just reinforced the issue. After several shots, it seemed recoil was reduced, but not eliminated. Vibration seemed less as well, although there is little to begin with, so it's really hard to tell.

However, I learned enough to realize I need to install the NVs where they're supposed to go, then add anotehr 6 ozs, probably to the end of the stabilizer, to get the bow's mass weight up towards 4 pounds.

Does anybody know where I can get a very dense stabilizer weight that is hopefully short as well?
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Old 04-05-2004 | 12:57 PM
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If you are going to add more weight then you might as well pick a design that is also aimed at reducing noise/shock as well. How about a short mount (or long one depending on where you place it) Sims Enhancer 2000? I had a short mount unit that might work well on the end of the stealth though I would probably prefer to have a long mount unit between the Stealth and the riser.

If you had an extra one of those "bolts" then you could mount it between the NV unit and the riser thus placing the NV unit farther from the reflexed riser. More forward weight usually does promote a steadier aiming point. That is why you always see target shooters with longer stabilizers and/or stabilizers that have a weighted front end.

Glad you are making good use out of them. I would be curious to hear your impressions once you get them mounted on the limb bolts.
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Old 04-05-2004 | 01:31 PM
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I would be curious to hear your impressions once you get them mounted on the limb bolts.
I promise, just as soon as I work up the courage to try and tear down my bow with the bowmaster portable press...

Any idea what those Sims enhancer 2000s weigh in at?
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Old 04-05-2004 | 01:48 PM
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Can you tear your bow down with a Bowmaster? Careful, I know that some bows you can't get the limbs off with a Bowmaster. It doesn't have enough travel for some configurations to provide enough slack to get the limbs off......

Ya know Apple makes some nice bow presses as well.....
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Old 04-05-2004 | 01:56 PM
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Thanks for the heads up. Frank and I discussed that as a possibility earlier in PMs. I need to check into it. I'll probably just have a shop do it, to be safe. I wanted the bowmaster for retuning cables/strings, etc, it works well for the little things.

I'm soooo glad we don't hang on a regular basis...

I'd be broke then divorced in short order, I'm sure...



Actually, the one Walks makes would be perfect for me, but it's $75 or so...
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Old 04-05-2004 | 03:58 PM
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The sims system is great, it really allows you to tweak until you get what works for you.....another great stabalizer is the doinkers, they always worked well for me.
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